This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:33 pm

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Someone might get offended by the other ones, but they don't have to do with vaccines. But if idiots believe this one is true, or that something like this is even possible, it could potentially have a negative public health consequence. It is funny though.
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Doctor X » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:16 am

I noticed they took down or you cannot find the Japanese original "African-American Neighborhood Terrorized By Ask Murderer."

I think I posted the one where "As a Mother" the person gets right to decide which previously eradicated childhood diseases roar back. Anyone still citing The Onion as real news deserves the derision they get.

Then we have The Pros and Cons of Vaccinating Children:

Pros
  • Helps out pharmaceutical industry
    Get to puncture child with needle
    Old family syringe shop depends on it
    Habituates children to the pain of existence
    Flies in face of science by discrediting single unanimously refuted paper from 10 years ago
    Healthier children equals friendlier waiters at Chili’s down the line
    Could save a few million children’s lives
Cons
  • You have to go to a place
    Chance of developing autism 100 percent
    Puts the onus of character-building entirely on sports
    Without suffering through diphtheria, the flu, and measles, American children will become effete, pampered do-nothings
    Free lollipops promote unhealthy eating habits
    Child won’t get to be kindergarten’s Typhoid Mary
    Bullies parents into slavishly following actions recommended by decades of physicians’ peer-reviewed research that establishes an irrefutable scientific consensus
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:28 am

Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Doctor X » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:42 am

Yup. It went from something that was a paragraph in a text book on the clinical practice to endemic.

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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Witness » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:57 am

Arizona cancels vaccine program after backlash from parents who don't vaccinate

The state of Arizona has canceled a vaccine education program after receiving complaints from parents who don't immunize their school-age children.

The pilot online course, modeled after programs in Oregon and Michigan, was created in response to the rising number of Arizona schoolchildren skipping school-required immunizations against diseases like measles, mumps and whooping cough because of their parents' beliefs.

But some parents, who were worried the optional course was going to become mandatory, complained to the Governor's Regulatory Review Council, which reviews regulations to ensure they are necessary and do not adversely affect the public. The six-member council is appointed by Gov. Doug Ducey, with an ex-officio general counsel.
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Witness » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:17 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:28 am
Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
. . .
Another article on the subject: Are Anti-Vaxxers to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak? .
tl;dr: partly. Sometimes vaccine batches are faulty, some rural areas have bad coverage, &c.

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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:52 am

Witness wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:17 am
Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:28 am
Because of Anti-Vaxxers, 37 People in Europe Have Died of Measles This Year
An outbreak of measles is rampaging across Europe, taking a huge toll. In the first six months of 2018, there were 41,000 recorded cases of the easily preventable viral infection.
. . .
Another article on the subject: Are Anti-Vaxxers to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak? .
tl;dr: partly. Sometimes vaccine batches are faulty, some rural areas have bad coverage, &c.
The answer is "Yes. Anti-Vaxxers are to Blame for Europe's Current Measles Outbreak."
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Witness » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:48 am

Indonesian ‘vaccine fatwa’ sends measles immunization rates plummeting

Millions of parents around Indonesia have eschewed the vaccine in recent months, after Islamic clerics declared the MR vaccine "haram," or forbidden under Islamic law because pig components are used in its manufacturing. Vaccine coverage has plummeted as a result, alarming public health experts who worry that the world's largest Muslim-majority country could see new waves of measles and more miscarriages and birth defects resulting from rubella infections during pregnancy.

Indonesia has long used a locally produced measles vaccine as part of its childhood vaccination scheme, but coverage has been patchy, and until recently, the country had one of the highest measles burdens in the world, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). Last year, as part of a WHO-led plan to eliminate measles and rubella globally by 2020, Indonesia switched to a combined MR vaccine, produced by the Serum Institute of India in Mumbai. The Ministry of Health launched an ambitious catchup campaign targeting 67 million children aged 9 months to 15 years. The first phase, in 2017 on the island of Java, was a success; all six provinces reached the 95% coverage target, and measles and rubella cases dropped by more than 90%.

But the rollout to the rest of the country, originally scheduled for August and September of this year, ran into trouble. Just before it began, the Indonesian Ulama Council (MUI) of the Riau Islands, a provincial Islamic body, raised concerns that the new MR vaccine had not been certified as "halal," or lawful, by the central MUI in Jakarta, the highest authority in such matters. The letter asked for vaccinations to be postponed. The news quickly spread throughout the country, stoking distrust among parents.

To salvage the campaign, the health ministry in August lobbied the central MUI to issue a fatwa—a ruling under Islamic law—declaring the vaccine halal. Instead, the council declared the MR vaccine haram, based on its ingredients and manufacturing process. Like many vaccines, it is made using several porcine components.
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:04 am

Religion strikes again!!
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:15 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:04 am
Religion strikes again!!
As an aside, it's become popular in some circles on the right lately to argue that "Islam isn't a religion." :lol:

Don't believe me? Just Google "islam not a religion".

I think it's a way to justify two conflicting ideas, the idea of "religious liberty" which is popular on the right, with hatred of Muslims, and the desire to crack down on them (no "mosque" at ground zero, prevent Muslims from immigrating, etc.), which is also popular on the right. Conveniently, if we define Islam as something other than a religion, we can be for both things at the same time!! :lol:

(The fallacy of course is the No True Scotsman fallacy.)
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Doctor X » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:48 am

Indeed.

But this is an old way of dealing with any dissent or challenge. Islam does the same thing.

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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:36 pm

"Islam isn't a religion" is a trope based on the assumption that religion == niceness.

So is the trope that Muslim terrorists are not "real Muslims".

That underlying falsehood is neither right wing nor left wing.

Furthermore, any Muslim will tell you that Islam is not just a religion. Which confuses the issue, but not because the Muslims are deliberately being confusing.

The infidels in question are already very confused.
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:20 am

World's First Honey Bee Vaccine Seeks to Save Dying Pollinators

Great, now we're going to have autistic honey bees. :|
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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by Doctor X » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:08 pm

Will make them start voting libertarian.

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Re: This Just in . . . Vaccines STILL Do Not Cause Autism

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:29 pm

As long as they carry out their pollination duties as required. But the minute we don't get 4 harvests a year, off with their little heads!
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