Oakland Sinking

[ed]

Good article on Occupy and Oakland and aged hippies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/magazine/oakland-occupy-movement.html?hp&gwh=BF29B2032BB4983EB71475F2E9E10FDD

[Abdul Alhazred]

Headline: Oakland, the Last Refuge of Radical America

I call bullshit. Those are 1960's radicals, not real radicals.

My old neighborhood (Lower East Side or "East Village") has those, but also has the last of the 1950's radicals. And even the few remaining 1930's radicals.

[corplinx]

Headline: Oakland, the Last Refuge of Radical America

I call bullshit. Those are 1960's radicals, not real radicals.

My old neighborhood (Lower East Side or "East Village") has those, but also has the last of the 1950's radicals. And even the few remaining 1930's radicals.

I thought they were all in the White House?

[grayman]

Wait until the 20s: Will the US Really Experience a Violent Upheaval in 2020?

Circa 1870, the North fought the South in the Civil War. Half a century later, around 1920, worker unrest, racial tensions and anti-Communist sentiment caused another nationwide upsurge of violence. Then, 50 years later, the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Movement triggered a third peak in violent political, social and racial conflict. Fifty years after that will be 2020. If history continues to repeat itself, we can expect a violent upheaval in the United States in a few years.

It sounds like pseudoscience, but it's a published theory. "My model suggests that the next [peak in violence] will be worse than the one in 1970 because demographic variables such as wages, standards of living and a number of measures of intra-elite confrontation are all much worse this time," said Peter Turchin, an ecologist, evolutionary biologist and mathematician at the University of Connecticut.

[Grammatron]

Wait until the 20s: Will the US Really Experience a Violent Upheaval in 2020?

Circa 1870, the North fought the South in the Civil War. Half a century later, around 1920, worker unrest, racial tensions and anti-Communist sentiment caused another nationwide upsurge of violence. Then, 50 years later, the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Movement triggered a third peak in violent political, social and racial conflict. Fifty years after that will be 2020. If history continues to repeat itself, we can expect a violent upheaval in the United States in a few years.

It sounds like pseudoscience, but it's a published theory. "My model suggests that the next [peak in violence] will be worse than the one in 1970 because demographic variables such as wages, standards of living and a number of measures of intra-elite confrontation are all much worse this time," said Peter Turchin, an ecologist, evolutionary biologist and mathematician at the University of Connecticut.

That's a big fucking IF.

[hammegk]

I suspect 2013 when people discover The Obamination intends to destroy the suburbs and have nothing left but downtowns. I speculate that taxes will change to make the move from 'burb to 'urb economic for middle class.