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tamiO wrote: idea... do you think Bill Hoyt could actually be Bill O'Reilly? :D
Oh God, I hope so. I'd love to think I've been kicking Bill O'Reilly's butt all over the place all this time.

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I think tamiO is probably right here.

The fact is that the vast majority of posts and threads over at TOP were interesting, reasonable, polite (maybe that's a stretch) and associated with the JREF mission if part of the JREF mission is meant to be the encouragement of critical thinking.

So despite all of Hal's strange pronouncements and actions if the forum is to survive at all as a place for intellectual exchange and the encouragement of critical thinking he can't and won't make many substantive changes (except of course for eliminating a few sub fora, most notably community). And whatever changes he makes they are all ones that could have been made by tweaking the in place moderation and without any big shakeup announcements excoriating comments.

There seem to have been two main precipitating events that were used as the justification for major changes.

The bad taste joke about the Iraqi prisoners - This was already censored by the administrator. How is Hal going to improve on this?

The libel against Randi - OK, maybe JREF would have preferred if the post had been censored immediately and the poster banned immediately. This also could have been accomplished easily by tweaking the moderation guidelines and no major change was required. As an aside to this, Randi is slandered in a similar way in numerous web sites, so in the end the posting of the libel on the Randi site, a place where it would be certain to receive reasoned condemnation is unlikely to do more harm than its existence on numerous other sites where it goes unchallenged.

So in the end I think tamiO will be right, the O forum and the old forum will be largely indistinguishable except that there will be no community and a lot of posters will have just left because they don't want to experience all the crap that seems to occur over there periodically as the forum is badgered by an administrator that excoriates it and its participants, claims he will never take part in it again and threatens to destroy it in various ways periodically

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Luke..

Sorry, i meant "Skeptic Friends"

I been two and a half years...man and boy at the JREF..

:D

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tamiO wrote:
Luke T. wrote:
Why should I post on JREF? With every post I make, I have to worry about Hal sitting there with his Non-JREF-Worthy hammer in one hand and the server power cord in the other, and his lackey Bill Hoyt waiting with his finger poised over the REPORT button. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn on the function that requires a moderator to read and approve your post before it shows up on the forum before too long.

Screw that!
I honestly don't think it's going to be that draconian. If it is, then having perfectly fine posts be rejected will only make the admin/moderater look bad. I understand how you feel, though, you had to keep a lot bottled up for a long time being a moderator there. I am glad you snapped out of your military mind. :)

I had this weird idea... do you think Bill Hoyt could actually be Bill O'Reilly? :D
My point is that all of the crap going on at JREF is not going on here. So why bother posting there when we have far more freedom and community spirit here? If I'm going to click between two forums, it will be here and renata's forum. JREF is headed for extinction unless Hal comes to his senses and realizes he will have to let things go back to the way they were.

I'm not holding my breath.
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How interesting.


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robinson wrote:How interesting.


Glad to hear G6 is admining at the new board, she's always seemed level headed and savvy when dealing with people.
~ Trish, Posted - 06/17/2004

Your point is what?

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Luke T. wrote:
My point is that all of the crap going on at JREF is not going on here. So why bother posting there when we have far more freedom and community spirit here? If I'm going to click between two forums, it will be here and renata's forum. JREF is headed for extinction unless Hal comes to his senses and realizes he will have to let things go back to the way they were.

I'm not holding my breath.
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SC is still going, even if there isn't a single female left.

JREF forum is long gone
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Doctor X wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:37 am
He is a true troll who is upset no one is feeding him?

--J.D.
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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
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"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
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robinson wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:28 pm
SC is still going, even if there isn't a single female left.
I think Bruce still counts.

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But only to 5 Listy. :rimshot:

And I was sorry just as soon as I posted that Bruce and I beg your pardon sir. It's just that I'm a complete cunt for a comedic door that is that wide open... :) Can't resist it. Psychiatrist is working on it. (still fumbling for the right combo of meds actually in an attempt to crush my perverse ego once and for all)
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