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There's some handwaving about universal translators. It's an interesting idea, though I think it's unlikely for one to be as effective as portrayed.

But generally speaking except in situations where a universal translator could not be availalble, the fact that they don't take it out and listen between lines of a conversation can be taken as a narrative shorthand, I figure. In fact they did it quite elegantly in Star Trek VI--the courtroom scene started in Klingon with people shown listening to translators, then it swapped into English for the sake of the audience.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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ST: TNG "Darmok".
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sparks wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 am ST: TNG "Darmok".
The translators could handle the words and short phrases, but wasn't prepared for meme language.
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I wonder how the current AI Programs do with memes and image macros

So much online com is done with them
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"The Paradise Syndrome" TOS episode that I watched last night and one of he few I had previously missed.

Injuns in space, not one of their better efforts. Probably not rerun much.
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It’s a great story
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Synopsis: Kirk loses his memory and is hailed as a god because Injuns are like that. Spock saves the day.

Injuns dressed in outfits you could buy at a gift shop in Cherokee, North Carolina.
Injuns have heap big Injun accents.

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Of course Kirk beds the girl.
The girl dies in this one.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm "The Paradise Syndrome" TOS episode that I watched last night and one of he few I had previously missed.

Injuns in space, not one of their better efforts. Probably not rerun much.
Miramanee was worth the cheese.

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Think she'd look better sporting her natural skin tone?

Or green like that hot one in that other episode? :p
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She had a great set of stems.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm "The Paradise Syndrome" TOS episode that I watched last night and one of he few I had previously missed.

Injuns in space, not one of their better efforts. Probably not rerun much.
It has one benefit--it introduced "The Preservers," a source of many stories and a lot of world building in beta canon. Arguably all that world building is an influence behind what eventually appeared in TNG's "The Chase", though it has not been confirmed on-screen that the two are the same.
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"The Preservers" -- That explains why there are actual real-o true-lo honest Injun Injuns in outer space.

But whatever was made of "The Preservers" later, I suspect it was ad hoc.
Just like those disembodied aliens who tried to steal the bodies of Kirk, Spock, and that red-shirted female. And the boss one called us "my children".

The universe is damn near crawling with multiple incompatible explanations of why there are humans everywhere.
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In the ST universe there are humans and humanoids everywhere because there wouldn't be a story to tell without them.

Grow up, get a job, stop jerking off so much, move out of your mother's basement, find somebody to love and get on with life. :)

It's...perfectly...simple.






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sparks wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:57 pm ... get a job ...
Being retired is like being a NEET, but without the poverty and disrespect. :coolspecs:
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Wait wait. I've got it!

"The Preservers" spoke English. That explains a lot. :lmao:
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No no no: They spoke Swahili. Because you're white on one side and black on the other. :)
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Very astute observations
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In the Star Trek universe both female naval officers and hippie chicks wear heavy eye makeup. 8)

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One of the three times Chekov got laid.
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The future is a foreign country
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