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Also, to get the usual questions out of the way:

Of the Discovery cast, Emily Coutts (Lt. Detmer) and Rebecca Romijn ("Number One") have appeared naked in stuff.

Of the Picard cast, Alison Pill (Dr. Jurati) has.
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Using Rule34 on Star Trek is cheating. Star Trek fandom practically invented slashfic.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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It kind of works with how much they argue all the time but continually hang around each other.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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So Spock is a vampire?
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:58 pm Well gee whiz :roll:

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post& ... tags=spock+ <== NSFW
Tentacles.

Theres always tentacles.
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Oh well that's easy, everyone on the Enterprise (either version) was always so amazing in bed that their exes would purposely get assigned nearby so that they might run into them.
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Image

These are SPACE cave people, from the FUTURE. They'll shave and do their hair up, but can't manage but scraps of clothing.

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There's some handwaving about universal translators. It's an interesting idea, though I think it's unlikely for one to be as effective as portrayed.

But generally speaking except in situations where a universal translator could not be availalble, the fact that they don't take it out and listen between lines of a conversation can be taken as a narrative shorthand, I figure. In fact they did it quite elegantly in Star Trek VI--the courtroom scene started in Klingon with people shown listening to translators, then it swapped into English for the sake of the audience.
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ST: TNG "Darmok".
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sparks wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:43 am ST: TNG "Darmok".
The translators could handle the words and short phrases, but wasn't prepared for meme language.
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I wonder how the current AI Programs do with memes and image macros

So much online com is done with them
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It’s a great story
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm "The Paradise Syndrome" TOS episode that I watched last night and one of he few I had previously missed.

Injuns in space, not one of their better efforts. Probably not rerun much.
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She had a great set of stems.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:17 pm "The Paradise Syndrome" TOS episode that I watched last night and one of he few I had previously missed.

Injuns in space, not one of their better efforts. Probably not rerun much.
It has one benefit--it introduced "The Preservers," a source of many stories and a lot of world building in beta canon. Arguably all that world building is an influence behind what eventually appeared in TNG's "The Chase", though it has not been confirmed on-screen that the two are the same.
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In the ST universe there are humans and humanoids everywhere because there wouldn't be a story to tell without them.

Grow up, get a job, stop jerking off so much, move out of your mother's basement, find somebody to love and get on with life. :)

It's...perfectly...simple.






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No no no: They spoke Swahili. Because you're white on one side and black on the other. :)
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Very astute observations
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One of the three times Chekov got laid.
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The future is a foreign country
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What do you think about the current Star Trek gnome?
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In general I'm very optimistic. With several projects going on or proposed, each of very different approaches, the chances of something truly memorable are high. We could be approaching a renaissance of the franchise as significant as 1991.

I'll give a basic run-down of what I think of each:

Discovery: I was very disappointed with the first season, found myself grudgingly enjoying the second season more, and actually quite optimistic about the third.

Short Treks: Excellent experiments in short-form storytelling, and even helped me appreciate Discovery and Picard a little better.

Picard: All in all I was pleased with it. A feeling that they didn't make the best choices on a few things but overall I'm glad it was made.

Lower Decks: Absolutely love it. It's funny and has the mood and aesthetic all but perfect. It's candy for the brain of a Trek fan.

Strange New Worlds: Despite past disappointments, I'm really excited for this show based on the premise, and how much I liked the Enterprise-based characters in Discovery.

Section 31: Feeling a little meh about this one. The best I can say is Michelle Yeoh is talented enough to make even sub-par material enjoyable. But I'm pessimistic about the premise.

Star Trek Prodigy: I may not be the target audience for this, but I like the idea of attracting younger fans. New Trek needs a bigger tent with both Discovery and Picard moving it in a less kid-friendly direction, so we'll see.

Other projects are too speculative and tentative for me to have a definite opinion.
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I enjoyed 'Picard', but I'm an old school asshole. Haven't seen much of 'Discovery', but if Rebecca Romijn is in it, I'll have to make the time to see it.
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Thank you for the write up gnome, I appreciate it. I feel you are a bit too optimistic, but then again it's in the spirit of Stat Trek to be optimistic. Could use more of thst.
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Ok this was too good a find not to share: a fanzine from the earliest days of Trek fandom (1968). PDF at link.

https://oaktrust.library.tamu.edu/handle/1969.1/157232
In June, we learned from Star Trek's Associate Producer, Robert H. Justman, that the tentatively scheduled season opener (September 15th) will take place, in part, on the planet Vulcan. We have since learned that the show, "Amok Time," was written by no less an author than Theodore Sturgeon. In the course of the program, Spock will meet his assigned wife, for the purpose of satisfying the Vulcan septennial mating drive. Vulcans - or at least Vulcan males (at the moment, we're not quite sure which) must experience sex every seven years, or die. We have been told that the story is handled with the same care and skill that made Star Trek our favorite program in its first season. Look out, September 15th - here we come!
Warning: They like Spock. They really, really like Spock. The short version of this zine:

Spock:
Once upon a Spock,
Spock Spock Spock Spock Spock Spock Spock
The Spock.
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