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gnome wrote:
Grammatron wrote:They were sitting in the ready room at this table, at the center of the table there was a computer device. When activated, it displayed 3D holographic images with they used to plot their mission.
Haven't heard any references to why this would have been abandoned, except that I know the CGI budget was tight for the first season, maybe they had to scrap that particular effect?

From a continuity standpoint I would say anything seen is probably still available, unless something specifically mentioned dismantling it.
I know that a tight CGI budget was the reason that the Enterprise's ability to seperate it's saucer section was mentioned far more than it was seen, in TNG.
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Nyarlathotep wrote:Okay, the ULTIMATE question.

Kirk or Picard ? Or Sisko? Or (if we must) Janeway or Archer.
Look. It's Shatner and Connery. The orginals. They blazed the trail.

And with Kirk, if you found some really potent alien weed, you better bring him back a dime bag or he'll be putting you in a red shirt, and you'll be catching a spear in the chest on the next landing party.

"AAaaaaaagh!"

"There goes another bogart."
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Luke T. wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:Okay, the ULTIMATE question.

Kirk or Picard ? Or Sisko? Or (if we must) Janeway or Archer.
Look. It's Shatner and Connery. The orginals. They blazed the trail.

And with Kirk, if you found some really potent alien weed, you better bring him back a dime bag or he'll be putting you in a red shirt, and you'll be catching a spear in the chest on the next landing party.

"AAaaaaaagh!"

"There goes another bogart."
I think I just swallowed my gum. Goddamn that was funny. Thanks, Luke.

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Majel Barret who would become Majel Roddenberry and also Nurse, later Dr. Chapel.

She and Nimoy are the two actors to exist in all of the Classic Treks. Spock is the only character to do so as well--this includes the second pilot that was accepted for Classic Trek. I do not count The Menagerie since it was an incorporation of the first pilot into a two-part episode.

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Doctor X wrote:Majel Barret who would become Majel Roddenberry and also Nurse, later Dr. Chapel.

She and Nimoy are the two actors to exist in all of the Classic Treks. Spock is the only character to do so as well--this includes the second pilot that was accepted for Classic Trek. I do not count The Menagerie since it was an incorporation of the first pilot into a two-part episode.

--J.D.
She was also the voice of the computer on that abortion known as Star Trek Voyager.

Except for when Jeri Ryan was added to the cast. Those were OK.
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NightG1 wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Majel Barret who would become Majel Roddenberry and also Nurse, later Dr. Chapel.

She and Nimoy are the two actors to exist in all of the Classic Treks. Spock is the only character to do so as well--this includes the second pilot that was accepted for Classic Trek. I do not count The Menagerie since it was an incorporation of the first pilot into a two-part episode.

--J.D.
She was also the voice of the computer on that abortion known as Star Trek Voyager.

Except for when Jeri Ryan was added to the cast. Those were OK.
Until Enterprise, she had a part in EVERY incarnation of Trek.

She was also the gust of honor at the very first con I ever attended.
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Speaking of cons..

So gnome, I presume you attend cons on occasion at least, who is your favorite con guest? And least favorite? Mine is John DeLancie hands down. The funny thing is, he hardly talks Trek at all, but he is a fascinating and funny speaker.

The worst was the guy that plays Chakotay. Zzzzzzzzz........
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NightG1 wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Majel Barret who would become Majel Roddenberry and also Nurse, later Dr. Chapel.

She and Nimoy are the two actors to exist in all of the Classic Treks. Spock is the only character to do so as well--this includes the second pilot that was accepted for Classic Trek. I do not count The Menagerie since it was an incorporation of the first pilot into a two-part episode.

--J.D.
She was also the voice of the computer on that abortion known as Star Trek Voyager.

Except for when Jeri Ryan was added to the cast. Those were OK.
I'm pretty sure she was always the computer on TOS too.

Oh god, not again. I swear I'm not one of THOSE. I ain't no Trekkie, not since I was about 12.

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Nyarlathotep wrote:Speaking of cons..

So gnome, I presume you attend cons on occasion at least, who is your favorite con guest? And least favorite? Mine is John DeLancie hands down. The funny thing is, he hardly talks Trek at all, but he is a fascinating and funny speaker.

The worst was the guy that plays Chakotay. Zzzzzzzzz........
I do attend cons now and then, though I haven't been to many geared only to Trek. I haven't happened to attend any of the public appearances of a Trek actor, believe it or not. Though, I saw the back of Avery Brooks' head once as he left a signing session at a Vulkon.

My regular con is one in Tampa called Necronomicon. Used to be a fair amount of Star Trek stuff going on, but last year there was nary a Klingon in sight.

Typical comment from me: "Michael Dorn's here? Totally missed that."
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Cool Hand wrote:
I'm pretty sure she was always the computer on TOS too.
I think she was for all the series.
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Feel like resurrecting a thread today... anyone else got any more Trek conundrums?
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The name of the chick that fought with Kirk in the episode "Gamesters of ..." who went on to make hardcore porn. Also the last word of the title of the episode (Nyarl not eligible)

n.b. been waiting 8 years to ask that.
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Did the actress who played T'Pol ever get naked?
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ed wrote:The name of the chick that fought with Kirk in the episode "Gamesters of ..." who went on to make hardcore porn. Also the last word of the title of the episode (Nyarl not eligible)

n.b. been waiting 8 years to ask that.
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cheater.
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She was in repo man too.
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Rob Lister wrote:Did the actress who played T'Pol ever get naked?
It seems so, in the movie Slow Burn.

But if you see the clip, it's disappointing... because an unclothed Jolene Blalock is an uncostumed Jolene Blalock and then she's not T'Pol anymore, just another model showing some skin in a love scene with limbs and sheets and a dude's back and whatever always getting in the way, ohh saw a tit for a moment there, yippee. Meh.

If you want to perv on T'Pol the best way is to watch the episode where she goes into pon farr. Which is ridiculous because canonically it's a male phenomenon, but just the same the result is way sexier than anything she did undressed.
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ed wrote:The name of the chick that fought with Kirk in the episode "Gamesters of ..." who went on to make hardcore porn. Also the last word of the title of the episode (Nyarl not eligible)

n.b. been waiting 8 years to ask that.
Jeez, everything so far this time is about porn and people getting naked... just go watch Fuck Trek: The Back Doorening or whatever, SMDH.

Ah well, can't judge... and I promised to answer anything. Someone already got this one though.
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Someone actually wants to raise Star Trek and porn?

Oh and nothing is "canonical" in Star Trek. For years fools--including the "official hack" who novelized movies while penning now tragically clueless fantasies about her and Sulu--claimed Vulcans cannot lie.

Spock lied all the time in the Japanese Original Star Trek. There is a joking nod to the stupidity in the second--and best--movie where a horrified thin Kirstie Alley Savik accuses him: "You lied!" to which Spock responds, "I exaggerated."

Hell, Kim Cattrall lied all over the place in her movie.

Dirty . . . dirty . . . lies. . . .

As for Pon Far only happening to men? The whole point of that episode is Spock's arranged wife wants another man in her pants. A Romulan captain is seduced by Spock--he can fake it--and, of course, there are scenes between Cattrall and Nimoy which shows her character enjoys a healthy Daddy Fetish.

Now the problem is because of the level of censorship Roddenbury and the Rest considered it "challenge accepted!" to put sex in the show. Hence Kirk landing every Alien and Non-Alien Babe with scene of him putting his boot on whilst she is brushing her hair. So you do not actually see Spock Dance the Light Fantastic with the Romulan but it is clear they are not engaging in foreplay to Scrabble.

Pon Far just seemed like a cool idea: playing with the prejudice that Vulcans being all logical and "no emotion" tend to schedule sex between balancing their checkbooks and organizing their ear-socks. No, they go at it like rabid bunnies to the level that even Kirk would step back and say, "woah . . . dude!"

In other words, fans over-think these things.

That Girl from Farscape noted in a commentary that their ship--which was alive--had these cool but dangerous spider-like lights. "Could cut yourself on that!" Ben Browder explained that the original idea was to have them alive as well--like a benign parasite or symbiote. So you would be sitting in the dark and one of them would scurry up to give light. This was considered too complicated and time consuming to which Ben noted, "and then we'd be in a convention and someone would ask, 'Uh in episode 37 when you're on the planet, that light crawls outs but when you look at episode 103 it's back! What happened?'"

Or as Shatner put it: "Get a life!"

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Vonda Mcintyre... a very influential Trek writer, and probably the greatest source of "non canon" mistaken for canon-- like Savvik's half-Romulan ancestry.

My preferred approach is not to consider anything absolute, and just note where something comes from and go by how well it fits with other material.
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