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Post by En folkefiende » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:31 pm

Ed Wood should make a movie about this guy.
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:35 pm

Penultimely ... his music.

I posted an image of "Lips", know that the sheet music is in multiple states. That is that it was pronted and reprinted with various changes. I think that I have like 5 or 6 different ones.

These are the only other songs that I am aware he was involved with. "Liberty Statue is Looking Right at You" and the "In it" song.

I got the "Lips" song on a 78 a couple of years ago. Unfortunately the idiot that sold it stuck it in an envelope with no protection and it got shattered.

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Post by ed » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:42 pm

There were various "homages" to Guy. These mainly consisted of other Vets with marginal musical talent "dedicating their effort to the immortal Guy.

Amazing that nothing has changed. I will not try your collective patience with examoles of these.

I will, though, share this final image

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Guy was ppresident of the Great Outdoors Corporation. Presumably a public corporation capitolized to the tune of $1,000,000.

The offices were in NYC and I have no idea what they did. The certificate that I have is good. I have to see if my broker guys can figure it out.

Sounds like a scam. I think that Guy was reaching a bit and that that did him in.
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Post by ed » Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:58 pm

The last thing to mull over ...

In 1920 Guy was The Man.

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The back cover of the same rag makes some pretty bold promises ...

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Not the least of which is that a chickadee is the "Leading Woman" of Guy Empey Productions and that there is going to be a trilogy.

Well, time and tide and suchlike...

Here we have a cover story 2 years later...

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Interesting.
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Post by Luke T. » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:49 pm

So whattya think, ed. Was Guy a rogue? Were his war stories fabricated? Was he actually wounded?

Or was he an enlisted man who tried to elbow his way into a seat at the big table and got pushed down?
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Post by NightG1 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:31 am

I have two "theories"

1. Wilson et. al. saw his exploits as little more than self-promotion
or
2. Wilson et. al. saw an easy mark to use as a recruitment tool and then the stupid war ended (or its conclusion was seen as inevitable and soon) and Empey lost his propaganda value. In short, he was jettisoned as last year's news.

Neither is probably correct but I find the timing kinda political or handled in a political way.

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Post by ed » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:53 am

Luke T. wrote:So whattya think, ed. Was Guy a rogue? Were his war stories fabricated? Was he actually wounded?

Or was he an enlisted man who tried to elbow his way into a seat at the big table and got pushed down?
Not a rogue but he had the potential.

Did he get wounded? There is an article from the hospital he was in. Seemed real but not as bad as initially made out to be. The guy was a self promoter.

I think he was at a medium table and then his raison d'etre failed (ie. he ceased to be a money maker) and he was given the polite boot.
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Post by ed » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:55 am

NightG1 wrote:I have two "theories"

1. Wilson et. al. saw his exploits as little more than self-promotion
or
2. Wilson et. al. saw an easy mark to use as a recruitment tool and then the stupid war ended (or its conclusion was seen as inevitable and soon) and Empey lost his propaganda value. In short, he was jettisoned as last year's news.

Neither is probably correct but I find the timing kinda political or handled in a political way.
I think that his politics were not exactly what would fly in a League of Nations environment. I suspect that his wartime patriotism was a bit much.
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Post by NightG1 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:28 am

Marguerite Empey

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Just in case you were wondering. Circa 1955-ish.

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Post by Bruce » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:38 am

ed wrote:
Bruce wrote::Yawn: :zzz:
Really? That bad? Does that mean no scans of critical collection stuff?

Nothing?

really?
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Post by starrover » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:57 pm

I have a copy of Over the Top, 1917 - second impression, inscribed as follows:

To Mr Randolph Perkins
Best Wishes,
AG Empty
June, 1917

It compares very well with other signatures I've seen online. Condition is good. The cover has faded to brown - you can detect
what remains of the red more on the back cover. The spine and front cover lettering are quite faded but legible.
Top and bottom of spine are a bit frayed - worse on bottom. Shelf wear on bottom edge, some bumping to corners.
A sticker over the name Empey on the spine was removed and there is some residue over the name. A small hole (1/8 "?)
on the hinge near the spine. Hinges have separated from the print block but the latter is still attached to the boards.
All pages and photos are present and clean. Tissue-protected photo of the author in front (a few small brown spots
on tissue).

The closest to a first edition that I have found online is fourth impression. Randolph Perkins was a NJ politician that
died in 1936. No way to prove this, I guess.

What do you think it's worth?

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:44 am

A N00B who is also a thread necromancer.

If I see a second post, I'll do the official greeting routine. :)
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Post by starrover » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:41 am

In my post above about the book Over the Top, the name came out as "Empty," instead of "Empey." Spelling correction software drives me crazy!

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Post by Witness » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:44 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:A N00B who is also a thread necromancer.

If I see a second post, I'll do the official greeting routine. :)
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Post by Doctor X » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:42 am

I fear he is too busy licking Tinkerbell's sore hindquarters.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:50 am

Doctor X wrote:I fear he is too busy licking Tinkerbell's sore hindquarters.
I fear X doesn't get it. Oh well.

However, for our N00B --

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Post by Bruce » Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:00 am

I really need to check the dates before reading.

I was about to reply when I noticed that I had already replied 8 years ago.

Funny, but my intended reply to the OP was going to be the exact same reply that I already made 8 years ago. Guess I haven't changed all that much. :P

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:37 pm

Bruce wrote:Are we sure that the Noob isn't just a new Robin sock?
Most likely not a sock but unfortunately a hit and run. Or possibly it's really ed.

But I'm hoping for a real-o true-lo N00B who will stick around. :)
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Post by ed » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:38 am

Bump because I was thinking about AGE just now.

The Hollywood Hussars!!!!

Look at this
https://baseballhistorydaily.com/tag/guy-empey/

He also had a baseball team!!

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