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Any celebrations from Nanjing?




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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000lj4b

Not really judgemental, just tells a story

Harrowing viewing in places.
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Doctor X wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:21 am Any celebrations from Nanjing?
Approximately three quarters of comfort women died, and most survivors were left infertile due to sexual trauma or sexually transmitted diseases. One Korean woman, Kim Hak-sun stated in a 1991 interview about how she was drafted into the "comfort women corps" in 1941: "When I was 17 years old, the Japanese soldiers came along in a truck, beat us [her and a friend], and then dragged us into the back Kim stated that she was raped 30–40 times a day, everyday of the year during her time as a "comfort woman". Reflecting their dehumanized status, Army and Navy records where referring to the movement of "comfort women" always used the term "units of war supplies". One Japanese Army doctor, Asō Tetsuo testified that the "comfort women" were seen as "female ammunition" and as "public toilets", as literally just things to be used and abused, with some "comfort women" being forced to donate blood for the treatment of wounded soldiers.

But hey! Stopping all of this makes the USAbad right?
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The goddamn Japs were savages
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What they did to our POWs was worse
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And if you tell that to the young people today, they won't believe you.
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When asked, most do not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Because, you know, 75 years.

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I liked it better when I was ignored
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You've stopped ignoring me again.

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sparks wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:01 pm When asked, most do not know about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Because, you know, 75 years
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Infrared photos reveal Buddhist images drawn on temple columns (Asahi Shimbun)
KORA, Shiga Prefecture--Researchers have discovered images of eight Buddhist saints drawn on two columns of a local temple’s Hondo main hall through infrared photography, which could date back more than 1,300 years.

The paintings of the standing saints on the columns of Saimyoji temple’s main hall, which is designated a national treasure, are barely visible to the naked eye since the columns were blackened by soot.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:34 am Infrared photos reveal Buddhist images drawn on temple columns (Asahi Shimbun)
KORA, Shiga Prefecture--Researchers have discovered images of eight Buddhist saints drawn on two columns of a local temple’s Hondo main hall through infrared photography, which could date back more than 1,300 years.

The paintings of the standing saints on the columns of Saimyoji temple’s main hall, which is designated a national treasure, are barely visible to the naked eye since the columns were blackened by soot.
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:52 am

eating a big mac.
Bowl of herbs I think.

It looks vaguely like an uncommon portrayal of Yakushi Nyorai 薬師仏 or The Healing Buddha (Bhaisajyaguru) standing - usually depicted sitting.

Not 100% on that though. I'd be interested if anyone else can shed some light on it.

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Hotarubi wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:45 am
Rob Lister wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:52 am

eating a big mac.
Bowl of herbs I think.

It looks vaguely like an uncommon portrayal of Yakushi Nyorai 薬師仏 or The Healing Buddha (Bhaisajyaguru) standing - usually depicted sitting.

Not 100% on that though. I'd be interested if anyone else can shed some light on it.

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The Asahi Shimbun article describes it as one of 8 Buddhist "saints". Honestly I have no idea whether that's an accurate translation or a fudge using a word that would be familiar to Christians or if they are something different.

BTW, I tried googling "the eight buddhist saints" and came up empty. There's eight Buddhist precepts, and an eightfold path, but I couldn't find anything about eight "saints".
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Anaxagoras wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:18 pm
Hotarubi wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:45 am
Rob Lister wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:52 am

eating a big mac.
Bowl of herbs I think.

It looks vaguely like an uncommon portrayal of Yakushi Nyorai 薬師仏 or The Healing Buddha (Bhaisajyaguru) standing - usually depicted sitting.

Not 100% on that though. I'd be interested if anyone else can shed some light on it.

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The Asahi Shimbun article describes it as one of 8 Buddhist "saints". Honestly I have no idea whether that's an accurate translation or a fudge using a word that would be familiar to Christians or if they are something different.

BTW, I tried googling "the eight buddhist saints" and came up empty. There's eight Buddhist precepts, and an eightfold path, but I couldn't find anything about eight "saints".
No. There is not equivalence to "Saint" in Buddhism. Arahant vaguely covers it which refers to *anyone* achieving Nirvanah, be it peasant or noble. I get the feeling the article writer knew this but tried to make it palatable for western eyes.

Of course, the images may just be depictions of some "local monks" that were venerated/famous at the time, which is pretty ubiquitous in Buddhism. Interesting.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:01 pm According to Protestants, a "saint" in Christianity means anyone who is "saved".
That's just cultural misappropriation.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-nagasaki
Survivors of the atomic bombings of 75 years ago have accused Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe, of making light of their concerns after he delivered two near-identical speeches to mark the anniversaries of the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

A plagiarism detection app found that Abe’s speech in Nagasaki on Sunday duplicated 93% of a speech he had given in Hiroshima three days earlier, the Mainichi Shimbun reported.

The English-language versions of the speeches on Abe’s official website also show a high degree of duplication.
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The apparent decision not to tailor the statements to each city’s experience angered survivors of the bombings, who are known as hibakusha.

“It’s the same every year,” Koichi Kawano, head of a hibakusha liaison council in Nagasaki, told the Mainichi Shimbun. “He talks gibberish and leaves, as if to say, ‘There you go. Goodbye.’ He just changed the word ‘Hiroshima’ to ‘Nagasaki.’ He’s looking down on A-bomb survivors.”
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Anti-mask group in Tokyo slammed for “cluster festival”

As new cases of coronavirus continue to rise in a number of countries around the world, worrying divides have begun to form as those opposed to mask-wearing decry recommendations and requests to cover their faces to help stop the spread of the virus.

In Japan, mask-wearing is not mandatory but it doesn’t really have to be, as masks have been a part of everyday life here even before coronavirus. However, while the large majority of the public is masking up during the pandemic, a small faction of anti-maskers has appeared, and they’re not just opposed to masks — they’re against any form of restraint in regards to stopping the spread of the virus.

The group is being led by YouTuber and leader of the Popular Sovereignty Party Masayuki Hiratsuka, who ran an unsuccessful campaign in the July Tokyo Gubernatorial Election. His campaign slogan, “Coronavirus is just a cold” failed to gain traction with voters, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t picked up followers who agree with his views.

On 9 August, a number of party supporters gathered for a “Cluster Protest” outside Shibuya Station, where people held up placards that read “Masks, Social Distancing, The ‘Three Cs’, Self-restraint Not Necessary“. The group, which included women with babies and toddlers, were all unmasked for the three-hour-plus-long protest outside the station.
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A Godzilla museum just opened in Japan. Very soon they will open phase two that includes a ZIP LINE that lets you fly INTO Godzilla's GOD DAMNED mouth.

This is now the greatest thing in the world.
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Okinawa police scramble to stop people from sleeping on road; over 7,000 cases in 2019

NAHA -- Police in Japan's southernmost prefecture of Okinawa are puzzling over how to prevent people from sleeping on the road while intoxicated, with over 7,000 cases recorded in 2019 alone, some resulting in fatal accidents

Okinawa Prefectural Police are likely the only force in Japan that keeps statics on the phenomenon, called "rojo-ne" in Japanese, which literally translates as "sleeping on the road." As to why people do it, whether it's the warm climate or the residents' easy-going manner, police aren't sure.

"I didn't even know the term 'rojo-ne' before coming to Okinawa. I think it's a phenomenon unique to Okinawa," said Tadataka Miyazawa who took office as the prefectural police chief in December 2019. According to the force, there were 7,221 emergency calls made in relation to people sleeping on roads that year. Sometimes people fall asleep not on the sidewalk but on the roadway, and there were 16 accidents caused by these snoozers in 2019, including cases where they were run over by cars. Three men died as a result of rojo-ne that year.
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The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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A little supplemental information:

The Fifty-three Stations of the Tōkaidō

The kanji in the upper left of the print says (read from top to bottom and right to left) 東海道五十三次 (the last one seems to be an older variant).
The Fifty-Three Stations of the Tōkaidō (東海道五十三次, Tōkaidō Gojūsan-tsugi), in the Hōeidō edition (1833–1834), is a series of ukiyo-e woodcut prints created by Utagawa Hiroshige after his first travel along the Tōkaidō in 1832.[1]

The Tōkaidō road, linking the shōgun's capital, Edo, to the imperial one, Kyōto, was the main travel and transport artery of old Japan. It is also the most important of the "Five Roads" (Gokaidō)—the five major roads of Japan created or developed during the Edo period to further strengthen the control of the central shogunate administration over the whole country.

Even though the Hōeidō edition is by far the best known, The Fifty-Three Stations of the Tōkaidō was such a popular subject that it led Hiroshige to create some 30 different series of woodcut prints on it, all very different one from the other by their size (ōban or chuban), their designs or even their number (some series include just a few prints).

The Hōeidō edition of the Tōkaidō is Hiroshige's best known work, and the best sold ever ukiyo-e Japanese prints.[2] Coming just after Hokusai's Thirty-six Views of Mount Fuji series, it established this new major theme of ukiyo-e, the landscape print, or fūkei-ga, with a special focus on "famous views" (meisho). These landscape prints took full advantage of the new possibilities offered by the Western representation of perspective, that Japanese artists had by now fully assimilated. Hiroshige's series met with full success, not only in Japan, but later in Western countries.
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:41 am Excel Art.

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Japanese Culture and Offence Question ...

It seems that in spite of my retired state, I am about to do business with Japan military and/or their agents.

Question: Is it acceptable to ask if there have been any Godzilla attacks? I just came close to asking but I thought it best to refrain and get some top notch advice from ex-pat yanks whose loyalty is suspect and who would not steer a fellow american wrong, not even for massive lulz.

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ed wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:18 am Japanese Culture and Offence Question ...

It seems that in spite of my retired state, I am about to do business with Japan military and/or their agents.

Question: Is it acceptable to ask if there have been any Godzilla attacks? I just came close to asking but I thought it best to refrain and get some top notch advice from ex-pat yanks whose loyalty is suspect and who would not steer a fellow american wrong, not even for massive lulz.

Thank you.
Gosh, probably not ipso facto, but it sort of depends on the situation and how familiar you are with the person you are dealing with.

In a business transaction, Japanese people don't generally crack a lot of jokes in my experience. If they are the buyer and you are the seller, they might not appreciate it. The business culture here is such that there is an assumed hierarchy between the customer and the seller, where the customer is given great deference by the seller and spoken to in only the most polite tone of language. In such a context, making a joke might not come across as having the right tone, depending on the person. However, they know that you are not Japanese and they probably don't expect a gaijin to know about Japanese business etiquette. They might even be amused. But it's hard to say especially if you don't know the person. If all you've done is exchanged an e-mail or two purely about a business transaction, then making jokes might seem a little overly bold.
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Best to be on the best behavior.

If they take you out to drink you can joke a bit. Otherwise, they appreciate the formality. Have a business card.

Do not stick their business cards in your ass.

Do not ask about the tentacles.

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ed wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:18 am Japanese Culture and Offence Question ...

It seems that in spite of my retired state, I am about to do business with Japan military and/or their agents.

Question: Is it acceptable to ask if there have been any Godzilla attacks? I just came close to asking but I thought it best to refrain and get some top notch advice from ex-pat yanks whose loyalty is suspect and who would not steer a fellow american wrong, not even for massive lulz.

Thank you.

Japanese military, you say?

If you are all in America, you can break the ice by asking them "Hey, how does it feel to have lost so badly against a nation of lazy fat asses?"

Or, "When is your pussy government finally going to sack up and amend that 'no war' constitution?"

Or, "Hey, I'm not sure if I can do business with you, I only work with real 'armies' not 'self-defense' posers."

Then say, "Ha. Ha. Just kidding. My friend Anax of Yokohama, said you'd appreciate the humor."
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No, no, no. If you really want to impress your Japanese customer tell him that your friend Shuize from Osaka wants to know why they call an anime body pillow "Mai Waifu" in Japan. This is considered the height of humor in Japanese culture.
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Thank you.

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Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:52 am No, no, no. If you really want to impress your Japanese customer tell him that your friend Shuize from Osaka wants to know why they call an anime body pillow "Mai Waifu" in Japan. This is considered the height of humor in Japanese culture.

Yes, shuize is unfamiliar with that. How is it Anax already seems to know the secret? (Ha! Ha!)

But, while we're on the subject, I am curious why Japanese people insist on using the very awkward English "my [everything]" even when speaking Japanese. For example "my home", "my wife", "my number" identification card, etc.

Don't listen to Doctor X. Ask the Japanese military guys if they call it "my tentacle porn." As in, "Is this your my tentacle?"
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shuize wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:04 pm
Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:52 am No, no, no. If you really want to impress your Japanese customer tell him that your friend Shuize from Osaka wants to know why they call an anime body pillow "Mai Waifu" in Japan. This is considered the height of humor in Japanese culture.

Yes, shuize is unfamiliar with that. How is it Anax already seems to know the secret? (Ha! Ha!)

But, while we're on the subject, I am curious why Japanese people insist on using the very awkward English "my [everything]" even when speaking Japanese. For example "my home", "my wife", "my number" identification card, etc.

Don't listen to Doctor X. Ask the Japanese military guys if they call it "my tentacle porn." As in, "Is this your my tentacle?"
As I recall, that was the fatal mistake that the residents of Nanking made back in the day.
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Ainu group's fishing lawsuit is first to seek confirmation of indigenous rights

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Sapporo – A group of Ainu, an ethnic minority in northern Japan, filed a lawsuit Monday against authorities to grant them an exemption from a ban on the commercial fishing of salmon in rivers.

While the law stipulates that the Ainu are an indigenous people, it does not guarantee their self-determination and other tribal rights, with the government citing there are no Ainu tribes.

The suit, filed with the Sapporo District Court against the central and Hokkaido governments, is the first such lawsuit by Ainu people to confirm their indigenous rights.

Salmon fishing in rivers is illegal under the law on the protection of fishery resources and Hokkaido’s regulations on inland fishing. The Ainu living inland can only fish salmon for traditional fishing and must request permission from the governor.

According to the lawsuit, the plaintiffs are members of an Ainu cultural preservation body based in the town of Urahoro. The group includes descendants of Ainu communities who had lived around the Tokachi River in Hokkaido since the Edo Period that began in the 17th century.
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Witness wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:18 pm
Ainu group's fishing lawsuit is first to seek confirmation of indigenous rights

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Sapporo – A group of Ainu, an ethnic minority in northern Japan, filed a lawsuit Monday against authorities to grant them an exemption from a ban on the commercial fishing of salmon in rivers.

While the law stipulates that the Ainu are an indigenous people, it does not guarantee their self-determination and other tribal rights, with the government citing there are no Ainu tribes.

The suit, filed with the Sapporo District Court against the central and Hokkaido governments, is the first such lawsuit by Ainu people to confirm their indigenous rights.

Salmon fishing in rivers is illegal under the law on the protection of fishery resources and Hokkaido’s regulations on inland fishing. The Ainu living inland can only fish salmon for traditional fishing and must request permission from the governor.

According to the lawsuit, the plaintiffs are members of an Ainu cultural preservation body based in the town of Urahoro. The group includes descendants of Ainu communities who had lived around the Tokachi River in Hokkaido since the Edo Period that began in the 17th century.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... us-rights/

If our Native Americans think they've got it bad, they should talk to the Ainu.

And, speaking of talking, here's a fun fact: There are tons of Ainu place names in Hokkaido. For example, "Urahoro" from that article and "Sapporo" are Ainu in origin.*

Now guess how many native Ainu speakers are still breathing.


If the "woke" mob ever come for me, I'm going to play the "public defender" card and tell them to fuck off. But, if that's not enough, I can point to a Legal History seminar I took in law school. It was a fluff class taught by a professor I worked for as a research assistant, but I wrote my seminar paper on the similarities in legal treatment between the Ainu and Native Americans.

The short version: The Ainu lost.


* I seem to recall "~horo", "~pporo", etc. means "river" in Ainu.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Kamuy

Good Manga that goes over Ainu traditions, cultures, and history.

Caught between the empires of Russia and Japan the Ainu had no chance.
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Grammatron wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:23 am https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Kamuy

Good Manga that goes over Ainu traditions, cultures, and history.

Caught between the empires of Russia and Japan the Ainu had no chance.

I also seem to remember the Japanese didn't get serious about settling the interior of Hokkaido until the Russians started getting a bit too friendly with the Ainu. Most of Hokkaido was settled around the time we were pacifying the Native Americans. From what I've heard, it wasn't a picnic on the Japanese side either and a surprising number the early "soldier settlers" 「屯田兵」(tondenhei) died of exposure, disease, or even bear attack. My ex-wife's family in Hokkaido must have had some of their older relatives eaten by the "crescent moon bears" (ツキノワグマ)for as often as they talked about them. Although, as I made a point of telling them, for badass bears my money was still on grizzlies.