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Re: Russia

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:46 am

Looks like an F-117 Nighthawk.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:10 am

Samogon?

I though that meant illegal moonshine.

Or is there a question of Ukrainian not being Russian?
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Re: Russia

Post by Witness » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:30 am

Some brands use the name (and the "rebel"/illicit/rural halo it sports):

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But well done, Abdul, well done!

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Re: Russia

Post by Witness » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:27 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:20 am
Huge blasts as Russian arms depot in Siberia explodes (Video at link)

You can see the shockwaves spreading in some of them.
A Russian military ammo depot that blew up earlier this week just exploded again
  • A Russian military ammunition depot that exploded on Monday has exploded again, injuring at least another 10 people.
  • The ammunition storage facility, believed to house tens of thousands of artillery shells, caught fire and exploded on Monday, killing one and injuring 13 others, as a result of "human error."
  • The latest incident was reportedly caused by lightning after the facility's lighting-defense systems were damaged in the earlier explosion.
  • In the past week, Russian military facilities have seen multiple explosions, as well as more than a dozen casualties.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia- ... ing-2019-8

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Re: Russia

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:40 pm

One of my grandfathers was born in Ukraine. To the Ukrainians he was a Russian, but to the Russians he was a Jew.

He was discriminated against so he left.

In 1913, so he missed all the interesting stuff. :coolspecs:
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Re: Russia

Post by Anaxagoras » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:48 pm

More things exploding in Russia

Russia explosion: Five confirmed dead in rocket blast
Five people were killed and three injured following a rocket explosion on an Arctic naval test range in Russia on Thursday, state nuclear company Rosatom confirmed.
Rosatom said the accident occurred during tests on a liquid propellant rocket engine.
The three injured staff members suffered serious burns in the accident.
Authorities had previously said that two people died and six were injured in the blast at the site in Nyonoksa.
The company told Russian media that its engineering and technical team had been working on the "isotope power source" for the propulsion system.
The Nyonoksa site carries out tests for virtually every missile system used by the Russian navy, including sea-launched intercontinental ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and anti-aircraft missiles.
Authorities in Severodvinsk, 47km (29 miles) east of Nyonoksa said that radiation levels shortly after the blast were higher than normal for about 40 minutes but returned to normal.
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Re: Russia

Post by Doctor X » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:55 am

Things in the Soviet Union Russia cannot explode!



Anaxagoras is delusional.

Take him to the infirmary.

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Re: Russia

Post by Witness » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:17 pm

50,000 demonstrate in Moscow in fifth weekend of protests for fair elections

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MOSCOW — Some 50,000 people rallied in central Moscow on Saturday to demand fair elections, the largest demonstration in a series of protests this summer that has rattled the Kremlin and posed the biggest political challenge to Russian President Vladimir Putin in seven years.

Unlike previous rallies, which were met with harsh police crackdown that led to thousands of detentions and violent beatings with truncheons, Saturday’s demonstration was approved by the government and saw only scant confrontations between riot police and protesters. Nonetheless, more than 225 demonstrators were detained, almost 150 of them in Moscow and more than 80 at a second protest in St. Petersburg.

The tens of thousands of protesters ignored drizzling rain and unseasonably cold weather to gather in Moscow’s Sakharov Square just off the capital city’s central Garden Ring road, chanting such slogans as “Russia will be free!” and “Release the political prisoners!”

Moscow’s protest movement for fair elections began in early July, after the city’s elections commission rejected several opposition candidates’ applications to run in a Sept. 8 vote for the 45-seat Moscow City Duma, the capital’s city council. The current council is dominated by the pro-Kremlin United Russia party, which the opposition accuses of engaging in corrupt schemes that pilfer city budget funds.
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Re: Russia

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:54 am

About that missile that exploded:

Russia’s Mystery Missile (transcript of podcast)
Or the podcast itself
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From The New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. This is “The Daily.” Today: The mysterious explosion of a Russian missile has left an entire team of scientists dead. David Sanger on what that means for an arms race between the United States and Russia that both sides seem to want. It’s Friday, August 16. David, tell me what happened last Thursday in Russia.
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Now, what everybody knew near this northern Russian town was that there’s a big missile test site nearby. And the first explanation that the Russians gave was that there had been an accident with a liquid-fueled missile. The problem with that explanation is most liquid-fueled missiles don’t produce any radiation. So that didn’t make sense. And then another statement came out that said that actually what happened was an explosion of an isotope power source for a liquid-fueled rocket. Well, that was the first admission by the Russian government that something involving a radiological event had taken place.

michael barbaro
Because isotope suggests radiation.

david sanger
Exactly. But of course, the Russians weren’t coming clean about exactly what it was. They didn’t say nuclear. They didn’t say atomic. They didn’t say accident. They simply said something went wrong with an isotope power supply. And that really got people nervous.

michael barbaro
So what actually happened?

david sanger
Well, as we tried to piece it together, we got a picture of the Russians testing an entirely new kind of nuclear missile, one that uses a small nuclear reactor to propel it. And that, in the course of the testing, something went wrong with the nuclear reactor. And over the course of a day or so, we learned that seven people died, that the reactor had actually exploded after it was recovered from the sea, and that this had turned into a much larger disaster than the Russians had ever publicly admitted.
A missile powered by a small nuclear reactor? And it exploded? And allegedly the range of this missile is unlimited (for practical purposes):
But what was really strange about this last missile was that it was supposed to be powered by a small nuclear reactor. The nuclear reactor at the back of the missile meant that it could reach any corner of the world, because a nuclear reactor can run for weeks, months, maybe even years. So basically, the fuel is limitless and the range of the missile is limitless.
Comparisons with the doomsday device from Dr. Strangelove. There's also a torpedo they're working on, as well as a third kind of missile (details in the story). The torpedo would be like a kind of dead-man's weapon that could strike even if Moscow is obliterated.
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Re: Russia

Post by Doctor X » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:11 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:54 am
A missile powered by a small nuclear reactor? And it exploded? And allegedly the range of this missile is unlimited (for practical purposes):
Not great.

Not terrible.

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Re: Russia

Post by solely » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:37 pm

I can think of safer ways to deliver a nuclear weapon. What does Russia have against safe nuclear destruction?

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Re: Russia

Post by Rob Lister » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm

solely wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:37 pm
I can think of safer ways to deliver a nuclear weapon. What does Russia have against safe nuclear destruction?
I went youtubin' for this technology and was not disappointed. A nuclear-powered missile is twice as efficient as a chemical propellent (900 Ips vs 459 Ips). Obviously much, much more than twice the cost but in the context of destroying the world, small difference.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:02 pm

It's a last ditch weapon for when your own cities have already been wiped out.
So who cares about pollution?

The USA worked on something like that during the early part of the Cold War, but gave it up because it was just too awful.
Never even produced, not just never used.

There were a lot of things like that on both sides.

But I am guessing that is not really what the Russians were working on this time.
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Post by ed » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:03 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:40 pm
One of my grandfathers was born in Ukraine. To the Ukrainians he was a Russian, but to the Russians he was a Jew.

He was discriminated against so he left.

In 1913, so he missed all the interesting stuff. :coolspecs:
One of mine came from livov. Left about that time, was classed as an enemy alien during WW1. Missed the interesting goings on in Livov in the 40's.
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Post by Witness » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:46 am

Global network's nuclear sensors in Russia went offline after mystery blast

VIENNA (Reuters) - The operator of a global network of radioactive-particle sensors said on Monday its two Russian sites closest to a mysterious explosion went offline days after the blast, soon followed by two more, fuelling suspicions that Russia tampered with them.

The Russian Defence Ministry, which operates the two stations, did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

Russia’s state nuclear agency, Rosatom, has acknowledged that nuclear workers were killed in the explosion on Aug. 8, which occurred during a rocket engine test near the White Sea in far northern Russia.

The explosion also caused a spike in radiation in a nearby city and prompted a local run on iodine, which is used to reduce the effects of radiation exposure.

Russian authorities have given no official explanation for why the blast triggered the rise in radiation. U.S.-based nuclear experts have said they suspect Russia was testing a nuclear-powered cruise missile vaunted by President Vladimir Putin last year.

“We’re ... addressing w/ station operators technical problems experienced at two neighbouring stations,” Lassina Zerbo, head of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), said on Twitter overnight.

The CTBTO’s International Monitoring System includes atmospheric sensors that pick up so-called radionuclide particles wafting through the air. Zerbo said data from stations on or near the path of a potential plume of gas from the explosion were still being analyzed.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russ ... SKCN1V9183

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Re: Russia

Post by Rob Lister » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:19 pm

Russians just don't do nuclear well. I'm all for nuclear so long as Russians are not involved.

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Post by Witness » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:50 am

Russia to nuclear test ban monitor: Test accident not your business

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia told an agency that verifies a ban on nuclear tests that a military test accident in the country's north this month was none of its business and that handing it any radiation data was voluntary, Interfax news agency reported on Tuesday.

The Vienna-based Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO) said on Monday that two Russian monitoring sites closest to the mysterious explosion went offline days after the blast, soon followed by two more, fuelling suspicions that Russia tampered with them.

The CTBTO said on Tuesday the radioactive-particle sensors of at least one of the four Russian monitoring stations in question were transmitting again.

Russia's state nuclear agency, Rosatom, has acknowledged that five of its nuclear workers were killed in the Aug. 8 explosion during a rocket engine test near the White Sea in far northern Russia. Two Russian military personnel were also reported to have been killed.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VA0OL

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Post by Witness » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:25 pm

Russia launches floating nuclear reactor in Arctic despite warnings

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Moscow (AFP) - Russia will launch the world's first floating nuclear reactor and send it on an epic journey across the Arctic on Friday, despite environmentalists warning of serious risks to the region.

Loaded with nuclear fuel, the Akademik Lomonosov will leave the Arctic port of Murmansk to begin its 5,000 kilometre (3,000-mile) voyage to northeastern Siberia.

Nuclear agency Rosatom says the reactor is a simpler alternative to building a conventional plant on ground that is frozen all year round, and it intends to sell such reactors abroad.
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The reactor's trip is expected to last between four and six weeks, depending on the weather conditions and the amount of ice on the way.

Work began on the 144-metre (472-foot) Akademik Lomonosov in Saint Petersburg in 2006.

When it arrives in Pevek, a town of 5,000 in the Siberian region of Chukotka, it will replace a local nuclear plant and a closed coal plant.

It is due to go into operation by the end of year, mainly serving the region's oil platforms as Russia develops the exploitation of hydrocarbons in the Arctic.

Rashid Alimov, the head of the energy sector of Greenpeace Russia, said environmental groups had been critical of the idea of a floating reactor since the 1990s.

"Any nuclear power plant produces radioactive waste and can have an accident, but Akademik Lomonosov is additionally vulnerable to storms," he told AFP.

The float is towed by other vessels, making a collision during a storm more likely, he said.

Because Rosatom plans to store spent fuel onboard, Alimov said "any accident involving this fuel might have a serious impact on the fragile environment of the Arctic."
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-launches- ... 36329.html

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Re: Russia

Post by Witness » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:44 am

Berlin Chechen shooting: Russian assassination suspected

A Chechen exile shot dead in a Berlin park had fought against Russian troops and may have been assassinated by a Russian agent.

German police arrested a 49-year-old Russian man soon after the shooting on Friday, and found the suspected pistol and bike used in the attack.

The victim was Zelimkhan Khangoshvili and he had long been a target.

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The suspect, named only as Vadim S, reportedly had a large sum of cash in his flat, searched by investigators. He has been formally accused of "treacherous killing".

Vadim S travelled to Berlin from Moscow via Paris a few days before the attack, and had a return ticket to Moscow, German media report.

Suspicions fall on Russia partly because of previous high-profile attacks on dissidents abroad. The most notorious in the UK were the poisonings of Russian ex-state security officers
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49483090