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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:21 pm Not the post Russia partition map? :BigGrin3:
Comrade, such a mindset will allow you to spend vacations – long vacations – in Siberia. :|
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:33 pm That's part of the United States.
Nothing like traditional cowboy songs, right?

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Russian Police Major Falls From Window After Testifying Against Boss — Reports

A police major in Far Eastern Russia has fallen to her death from a window after testifying against her boss in a criminal extortion case, news outlets reported Thursday.

Security cameras reportedly captured the lifeless body of criminal investigation officer Yekaterina Mishkina, 37, near a nine-floor apartment building in the city of Khabarovsk more than 8,000 kilometers east of Moscow.

It was unclear who or what Mishkina, who was in plainclothes according to the Dvnovosti.ru news website, had been pursuing before plunging to her death from the fifth-floor window.

Dvnovosti and the Gubernia.com news website reported that security cameras showed Mishkina unsuccessfully attempting to gain access to the building’s rooftop, then descending a few flights.

Unconfirmed reports citing anonymous sources in law enforcement agencies say that Mishkina was a witness in a criminal case against her former boss, who’s suspected of extorting from subordinates. She was reported to have testified against him some time before her death.

Gubernia reported that authorities opened the criminal extortion case after Mishkina’s former boss retired.

The Khabarovsk regional police launched an internal inspection into Mishkina’s death, spokeswoman Yekaterina Tarasova told Gubernia, adding that the investigator was “on yet another vacation” at the time.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/07/ ... rts-a70895
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Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine form Lublin Triangle to cooperate against Russian aggression

Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine have agreed to deepen cooperation to help Ukraine in its fight against Russian aggression as well as to take joint action to counter the coronavirus pandemic.

In a declaration signed by the Lithuanian, Polish and Ukrainian foreign ministers in the Polish city of Lublin on Tuesday, the three countries committed to creating the so-called Lublin Triangle, a trilateral platform for political, economic and social cooperation, to achieve these and other goals.

The foreign ministers “decided to organise their regular meetings, also in the margins of multilateral sessions and with the participation of chosen partners”, the document reads. “They also decide to organise consultations of high-level MFA officials and establish liaison-officers within the Ministries of Foreign Affairs.”

The declaration emphasises “the multi-centennial historical and cultural links” between the three nations and notes “common threats in security area as well as [...] pandemic threats”.

“Taking into account the ongoing Russian aggression in Ukraine, they [the ministers] commit to coordinating their activities in order to uphold the international law” and “declare invariably their strong condemnation of the attempted annexation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol by the Russian Federation”.

They also call on Russia to withdraw its troops from the eastern Ukrainian regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, and reaffirm their support to Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity, and the country's NATO aspirations as well as political and economic reforms.

The ministers also “commit to providing mutual support in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic”.
https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/1 ... aggression
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UK Names Media Mogul Yevgeny Lebedev to House of Lords

Russian-British media owner Yevgeny Lebedev has been appointed to the House of Lords in Britain.

Queen Elizabeth II conferred Lebedev’s lifetime peerage on Friday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s office said.

Lebedev owns Britain’s Independent and Evening Standard newspapers. His father, Russian oligarch Alexander Lebedev, is co-owner of the independent Novaya Gazeta newspaper in Russia.

In summer 2019, then-Prime Minister Theresa May's government launched an investigation into his sale of a 30% stake in the Evening Standard and Independent to a Saudi investor.

That summer, he was reported to have entertained then-Foreign Secretary Johnson at a party in his family’s villa in Italy.

Alexander Lebedev, an ex-KGB agent turned business tycoon, was reportedly one of the figures investigated as part of Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee report on alleged Kremlin interference in country’s 2016 Brexit referendum.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/07/ ... rds-a71035
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Russian YouTuber Arrested for Obtaining State Secrets

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A Russian YouTuber famous for exploring abandoned sites was arrested and charged with obtaining state secrets last week, authorities and activists said Wednesday.

Andrei Pyzh has uploaded hundreds of videos showing his visits to industrial sites and abandoned bunkers to his YouTube channel, which has about 800,000 subscribers.

He faces up to eight years in jail if found guilty of illegally obtaining and disseminating state secrets.

A Moscow court ruled Aug. 6 that Pyzh remain in pre-trial custody until October, Reuters cited the court as saying.

It is unclear if Pyzh denies the charges against him.

Pyzh’s lawyer said his client’s arrest was not linked to his blogs. However, news outlets pointed to anonymous comments on the vlogger’s past Instagram posts promising “big trouble” for gaining access to a functioning radar station that Russia uses for its nuclear strike early warning system.

Friends and family said they have lost contact with Pyzh since Aug. 5 and reports said his court-appointed lawyer did not inform them of his detention either.

“He was in total isolation without understanding or support,” a member of Moscow’s public monitoring commission told the Podyom Telegram channel.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/08/ ... ets-a71137
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Top officials at Russian universities embroiled in plagiarism scandal

It's been described as the 'tip of the iceberg' when it comes to unethical practices in Russian academia.

Seventeen of the senior-most officials at Russian universities, known as rectors, have published plagiarized papers in international predatory journals, according to a new report. Thirteen other senior officials, who work as either deans, vice-rectors or directors of universities are also guilty of the practice, the report says.

Described as “damning” by researchers familiar with Russian science, the report brings to light 259 papers that it claims contained text pulled from various works published in the Russian language. The papers under scrutiny appear to have been translated into English from existing texts from already published Russian-language academic studies and online articles, and passed off as new work.

Some of the original Russian works were themselves recycled from other sources, such as dissertations.

The report focuses on 94 journals, investigating plagiarism and fake collaborations, where several researchers based at different institutions who have never co-authored papers with one another in the past suddenly produce studies together.

The report says 37 journals had examples of manuscripts listing fake collaborations and 61 contained instances of plagiarism.

Since 2010, there have been nearly 23,700 papers by scholars in Russia published in the 94 journals in question, the report found.

Published on 12 August, the report was produced by the Commission for Counteracting the Falsification of Scientific Research, a group appointed by the Russian Academy of Sciences to investigate Russian research practices.
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Russia’s Navalny in coma, allegedly poisoned by toxic tea

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, one of Vladimir Putin’s fiercest critics, lay in a coma Friday at a Siberian hospital, the victim of what his allies said appeared to be a poisoning engineered by the Kremlin.

Navalny’s organization was scrambling to make arrangements to transfer him to Germany for treatment; a German group said it was ready to send a plane for him and that a noted hospital in Berlin was ready to treat him.

The 44-year-old Navalny fell ill on a flight back to Moscow from the Siberian city of Tomsk on Thursday and was taken to a hospital after the plane made an emergency landing in Omsk, Navalny’s spokeswoman, Kira Yarmysh, said on Twitter.

She told the Echo Moskvy radio station that he must have consumed poison in tea he drank at an airport cafe before boarding the plane early Thursday. During the flight, Navalny started sweating and asked her to talk to him so that he could “focus on the sound of a voice.” He then went to the bathroom and lost consciousness, and has been in a coma and on a ventilator in grave condition ever since.

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“We are sure that the only people that have the capability to target Navalny or myself are Russian security services with definite clearance from Russia’s political leadership,” Pyotr Verzilov, a member of the protest group Pussy Riot who ended up in intensive care after suspected poisoning in 2018, told The Associated Press. “We believe that Putin definitely is a person who gives that go-ahead in this situation.”
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I always thought Navalny had both the biggest balls and smallest brain on the entire planet.

Taking on a supreme oligarchical dictator who's well known for having opponents disappear, then staying in the country, is fucking nuts.

The equivalent would be Salman Rushdie deciding to go and live in Teheran in 1989.
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Russian doctors allow Alexei Navalny's transfer to Germany

The German medical team has ascertained Navalny is fit enough to be airlifted to Berlin. Russian doctors have now given permission for his transfer which is expected to occur on Saturday.
https://www.dw.com/en/alexei-navalny-po ... a-54645234
France's Macron says ready to give Russia's Navalny all support

PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron said on Thursday that France was ready to give Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny all necessary assistance, including asylum.

Macron also said that France and Germany were ready to provide Navalny medical help.

Navalny was fighting for his life in a Siberian hospital on Thursday after drinking tea that allies said they believe was laced with poison.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fran ... SKBN25G25P

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I don't blame Navalny's family not trusting Russian doctors with his medical case. They tend to fall out of windows if they do not tow the party line.
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Alexei Navalny: Russian opposition leader was poisoned, German hospital suggests

‘His health is serious, but there is currently no acute danger to his life,’ statement says

Russian dissident Alexei Navalny was poisoned, the German hospital treating him has said.

The Charite hospital in Berlin said that the team of doctors who have been treating him since he was admitted on Saturday had found the presence of “cholinesterase inhibitors” in his system.

Cholinesterase inhibitors are a broad range of substances found in several drugs but also in pesticides and nerve agents. Common side effects include vomiting, muscle cramps, headache and hallucinations.

Doctors at the hospital said that the specific substance to which Mr Navalny was exposed is not yet known.

“The patient is in an intensive care unit and is still in an induced coma. His health is serious but there is currently no acute danger to his life,” the hospital said in a statement.

Berlin police and federal agents were posted at the downtown hospital where Mr Navalny has been undergoing treatment following his arrival in Germany after the chancellor, Angela Merkel, personally offered the country’s assistance

“It was obvious that after his arrival, protective precautions had to be taken,” Ms Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, told reporters. “After all, this is a patient who, with a certain degree of probability, was poisoned.”
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Russian military expands in Africa by building bases in six countries

The Russians are trying to expand their influence in Africa. To this end, they are signing military agreements with some of the continent’s more authoritarian regimes.

The German daily newspaper Bild citing a leaked secret German Foreign Ministry report wrote that the Russians are building military bases in six African countries. The report says that Russian President Vladimir Putin has made “Africa a top priority.” The bases are part of the Russians’ new African ambitions.

Bild cited the report which states that “since 2015, Russia has concluded military cooperation agreements with 21 countries in Africa.” It added that there were only four prior military cooperation treaties across the continent.

The report said that by courting some of the continent’s most dictatorial regimes, the Kremlin was “contractually assured” it would “be allowed to build military bases in six countries.” These countries are the Central African Republic, Egypt, Eritrea, Madagascar, Mozambique, and Sudan according to the Foreign Ministry’s leaked document.

Putin is competing with not only the West but also with China in spreading Russian influence on the huge continent (Africa is three times the size of the United States).

Sudan particularly interests Putin and Russia as it sits on the strategic Red Sea waterway.
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Russia asks Germany for help with Navalny case

Russia's top law enforcement official has requested official assistance from German authorities. German doctors have said leading opposition figure Alexei Navalny fell ill last week as a result of contact with poison.

Russia's attorney general has submitted a request to German authorities for judicial assistance with regards to the suspected poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, the Berlin-based Welt am Sonntag reported on Sunday.

The newspaper said Germany's Justice Ministry had confirmed receipt of the request, in which Moscow asked for analysis and preliminary medical diagnoses to be sent.

Russian authorities suggested that a preliminary probe into the incident has yet to produce evidence of criminal activity. However, Russian media reports said that the investigation would likely be extended until September 20.

The Russian hospital that treated Navalny before his transfer to Germany said he likely fell ill as a result of low blood sugar.
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-asks-germa ... a-54759864
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Alexei Navalny: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok - Germany

There is "unequivocal proof" that Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a Novichok nerve agent, Germany has said.

Chancellor Angela Merkel said he was a victim of attempted murder and the world would look to Russia for answers.
Mr Navalny was flown to Berlin after falling ill on a flight in Siberia last month, and remains in a coma.
His team says he was poisoned on President Vladimir Putin's orders. The Kremlin has dismissed the allegation.
The Kremlin spokesman called on Germany for a full exchange of information and foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova complained the Novichok allegations were not backed up by evidence. "Where are the facts, where are the formulas, at least some kind of information?" she asked.

A Novichok nerve agent was used to poison former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the UK in 2018. While they survived, a British woman later died in hospital. The UK accused Russia's military intelligence of carrying out that attack.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson condemned the latest attack as "outrageous". "The Russian government must now explain what happened to Mr Navalny - we will work with international partners to ensure justice is done," he tweeted.

After the government in Berlin released results of toxicology tests carried out at a military laboratory, Chancellor Merkel said there were now "serious questions that only the Russian government can and must answer".
"Someone tried to silence [Mr Navalny] and in the name of the whole German government I condemn that in the strongest terms."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54002880
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Russia’s ‘slow-motion Chernobyl’ at sea

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Beneath some of the world’s busiest fisheries, radioactive submarines from the Soviet era lie disintegrating on the seafloor. Decades later, Russia is preparing to retrieve them.

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With a draft decree published in March, President Vladimir Putin set in motion an initiative to lift two Soviet nuclear submarines and four reactor compartments from the silty bottom, reducing the amount of radioactive material in the Arctic Ocean by 90%. First on the list is Lappa’s K-159.

The message, which comes before Russia’s turn to chair the Arctic Council next year, seems to be that the country is not only the preeminent commercial and military power in the warming Arctic, but also a steward of the environment. The K-159 lies just outside of Murmansk in the Barents Sea, the richest cod fishery in the world and also an important habitat of haddock, red king crab, walruses, whales, polar bears and many other animals.

At the same time, Russia is leading another “nuclearification” of the Arctic with new vessels and weapons, two of which have already suffered accidents.

Decaying legacy

During the Cold War, the United States and Soviet Union built more than 400 nuclear-powered submarines, a “silent service” that gave the adversaries a way to retaliate even if their missile silos and strategic bombers had been taken out in a sudden first strike. Just 60 miles (97km) from the border with Nato member Norway, the Arctic port of Murmansk and surrounding military bases became the centre of the USSR’s nuclear navy and icebreakers, as well as their highly radioactive spent fuel.

After the Iron Curtain fell, the consequences came to light. For instance, at Andreyeva Bay, where 600,000 tonnes of toxic water leaked into the Barents Sea from a nuclear storage pool in 1982, the spent fuel from more than 100 submarines was kept partly in rusty canisters under the open sky. Fearing contamination, Russia and Western countries including Britain embarked on a sweeping clean-up, spending nearly £1bn ($1.3bn) to decommission and dismantle 197 Soviet nuclear submarines, dispose of strontium batteries from 1,000 navigation beacons and began removing fuel and waste from Andreyeva Bay and three other dangerous coastal sites.

As in other countries, however, Soviet nuclear waste was also dumped at sea, and now the focus has shifted there. A 2019 feasibility study by a consortium including British nuclear safety firm Nuvia found 18,000 radioactive objects in the Arctic Ocean, among them 19 vessels and 14 reactors.
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China, others to join military exercises in Russia

BEIJING (AP) — Chinese and Russian forces will take part in joint military exercises in southern Russia later this month along with troops from Armenia, Belarus, Iran, Myanmar, Pakistan and others, China’s defense ministry announced Thursday.

The “Caucasus 2020” drills will deploy wheeled vehicles and light weaponry to be flown to the drill location by China’s latest transport aircraft, the ministry said in a statement.

The exercises running Sept. 21-26 will focus on defensive tactics, encirclement and battlefield control and command, the ministry said.

The exercises have special meaning for China-Russia ties “at this important moment when the whole world is fighting the pandemic,” it said.
https://apnews.com/0d2f7ebbf673fccf3f2c643cc495a177
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Russia Seizes Kremlin Critic Navalny’s Apartment

Russian authorities have seized Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny’s apartment days after he was discharged from German hospital where he was being treated for poisoning by Novichok, his spokeswoman said Thursday.

Kira Yarmysh said court marshals came after Navalny’s three-bedroom apartment in southeastern Moscow to enforce a $1-million court ruling in favor of catering magnate Yevgeny Prigozhin. The businessman has earned the nickname "Putin's chef" from his close ties to President Vladimir Putin.

Prigozhin last year won 88 million rubles ($1.1 million) in damages against Navalny and his close associate, who blamed Prigozhin for a dysentery outbreak among Moscow schoolchildren linked to contaminated lunches.

Prigozhin previously vowed to “ruin” Navalny if he survives the poisoning.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/09/ ... ent-a71542
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Russian cleaner sweeps to power in surprise village vote

For the past four years, Marina Udgodskaya has scrubbed and mopped the offices of the local administration building in Povalikhino in rural Russia.

Now the 35-year-old cleaner is downing her dusters to move into the boss's seat, after winning an election earlier this month that she only entered to in order to get him reappointed.
When no-one in the village signed-up to challenge Nikolai Loktev, who's from the pro-Kremlin United Russia party, he persuaded Ms Udgodskaya to register as his "rival" to ensure the minimum requirement of two candidates.
That plan backfired when the cleaner beat him by a landslide.
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The 'Caspian Sea Monster' rises from the grave

Beached on the western shores of the Caspian Sea, it looks like a colossal aquatic beast -- a bizarre creation more at home in the deep than above the waves. It certainly doesn't look like something that could ever fly.
But fly it did -- albeit a long time ago.
After lying dormant for more than three decades, the Caspian Sea Monster has been on the move again. One of the most eye-catching flying machines ever built, it's completing what could be its final journey.
In July of this year after 14 hours at sea, a flotilla of three tugs and two escort vessels maneuvered slowly along the shores of the Caspian Sea to deliver their bulky special cargo to its destination, a stretch of coast near Russia's southernmost point.
It's here, next to the ancient city of Derbent, in Russia's republic of Dagestan, that the 380-ton "Lun-class Ekranoplan" has found its new, and most likely definitive, home.
The last of its breed to sail the waters of the Caspian, "Lun" was abandoned after the 1990s collapse of the Soviet Union, condemned to rust away at Kaspiysk naval base, some 100 kilometers (62 miles) up the coast from Derbent.
But before it could fade into oblivion, it's been rescued thanks to plans to make it a tourist attraction right at a time when this unusual travel concept could be poised to make a comeback.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:08 am Needs to be re-posted every so often. :)
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A New Front Opens in the Russia-Ukraine Conflict: Borscht

“A lot of things were taken away from Ukraine, but they will not take our borscht,” said a chef who is leading a drive to recognize the soup as a Ukrainian cultural heritage.

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BORSHCHIV, Ukraine — The roadside cafe is called Borscht, advertised with a gigantic beetroot red sign, leaving little doubt what people around here like to eat.

The fields are planted with beets. The town is named Borshchiv, which means “belonging to borscht.” It is just one of a dozen cities and villages in Ukraine named for borscht.

Given this clear commitment to borscht, Ukrainians wonder why the soup is commonly assumed to be Russian, a national dish of their archenemy.

Now a Ukrainian chef supported by the Ministry of Culture and Parliament is trying to set the record straight with an application to the United Nations’ cultural body, UNESCO, to list borscht as an intangible part of Ukraine’s cultural heritage.

“They can think whatever they like, but borscht is a Ukrainian soup,” said Olha Habro, a grandmother and well-practiced maker of borscht in Borshchiv.

Like the food fight between the Arabs and Israelis over who owns hummus, the dispute sadly divides two neighboring cultures over traditions that might have united them. Borscht is enjoyed in both Ukraine and Russia.

This conflict, though, comes with a twist. Even some Russian culinary historians and authoritative Soviet-era reference books on food place the origin of borscht in Ukraine. But after the Soviet Union broke up, Russia seemed to stake more of its own claim to the soup.

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In Western countries, borscht came to be viewed as Russian in part because of the tendency for many decades to conflate Russia, which was only one of the Soviet republics, with all things Soviet.

At home, many Soviet cookbooks identified borscht as Ukrainian, including an authoritative study of ethnic cooking published in 1978, “National Cuisines of Our People,” which listed six recipes, all from regions of Ukraine.

Even the Soviet classic cookbook, “The Book of Tasty and Healthy Food,” first published in 1939 under Stalin, does not describe borscht as Russian. It has only one recipe for the soup indicating a national origin, and that is for “Ukrainian borscht.” The others are specialized versions with mushrooms or low in fat, of unspecified origin.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/worl ... rscht.html
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Damn gorgeous photo. What vantage is it taken from, I wonder?
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gnome wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:39 pm Damn gorgeous photo. What vantage is it taken from, I wonder?
Sarah Palin's back yard.
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Russia is one of the few places I'd like to visit.
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Rob Lister wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:36 am
gnome wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:39 pm Damn gorgeous photo. What vantage is it taken from, I wonder?
Sarah Palin's back yard.
Unlike Palin, that will never get old.


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Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal backyard, boundless and bare
The lonely sands of Russia stretch far away.
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ed wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:21 am Russia is one of the few places I'd like to visit.
No. You wouldn't.
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Witness wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm Weather in Valdivostok:

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Summer, then.
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Re: Russia

Post by Giz »

Witness wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm Weather in Valdivostok:

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Perhaps connected to:

“years of Western economic sanctions have made the situation worse, and analysts say up to 12 million Russians drink cheap surrogate alcohol, including perfume, after shave, anti-freeze and window cleaner.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... e-38363441