## Thought Provoking Graphs

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quarky
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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

There's a lovely graph that correlates obesity and religiosity in the U.S.

(The new Jesus is a 300 pounder, and the spikes are tearing through his bloated flesh. It adds nicely to the sacrifice he made.)

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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

Well post it!

Personally I'm a bit skeptical that's a real correlation. Although, now that I think about it, I have a theory why it might be true.

More religious = more likely to get married = more likely to get fat

Married is the missing link. Particularly married w/ children.

Or I could be totally wrong because I just pulled that one out of my ass.
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quarky
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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

Anaxagoras wrote:Well post it!

Personally I'm a bit skeptical that's a real correlation. Although, now that I think about it, I have a theory why it might be true.

More religious = more likely to get married = more likely to get fat

Married is the missing link. Particularly married w/ children.

Or I could be totally wrong because I just pulled that one out of my ass.

There are graphs that demonstrate willingness to pull it out of one's ass and geography.

Sorry,I am presently unable to make links.

But I love your marriage hypothesis. It would work well in Mexico.

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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

Meh..

Likely has more to do with the Religious Right.

Thanks for the read, BTW, Doc X. Was good. I believe the precise number of people who died in those two bombings is 'A metric Fuckton'.

Which may still be less than would've died had we tried to invade....
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clarsct wrote:Thanks for the read, BTW, Doc X. Was good. I believe the precise number of people who died in those two bombings is 'A metric Fuckton'.

Which may still be less than would've died had we tried to invade....
Credit where credit is due, but the book Downfall is very detailed on the Japanese casualties happening just from the blockade, those happening from the fire-bombing. Further, the loses from airmen flying those missions--they were not "safe." Then add in the loses of American POWs. Then add in the Chinese and other civilians dying from famine and, well, torture/execution. The numbers are in the tens of thousands . . . per . . . month.

Realistic casualty estimates of an invasion--which did not believe the Japanese knew where they would invade--equal the casualties already suffered in the entire war up to that time. We are talking about a million expected casualties.

And the Japanese thought this was a "good thing" as in this would be enough for the US to sue for peace. If only they could inflict some great "victory" on the US. Hirohito--whom I refuse to refer to as "Showa"--held out to the last for this fleeting promise.

The reality sunk in that Tokyo was next. The US had one more working bomb and Tokyo was the target. Japanese military types tried to argue the US could not "possibly have a lot of bombs"--as if that means something--to which I would retort you know exactly how many bombs the US has when Tokyo is vaporized. It became clear to Hirohito--specifically--that the US would continue bombing and they would bomb Tokyo. The firebombings--which everyone reminds killed more than the atomic bombs did--demonstrated the US was willing to bomb the capitol.

None of this is "good."

It became "necessary."

--J.D.
Mob of the Mean: Free beanie, cattle-prod and Charley Fan Club!
"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
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"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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Rob Lister
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What the fuck is going on in Kansas!?

That is thought provoking. It's easy to get sarcastic about such an outlier but I wonder if this is a flaw in the data or there is some very popular or insanely fast internet proxy there that folks like Pyrrho and Matt use for surfing porn at work.

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You live in Kansas.

What the fuck else are you going to do?

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"Doctor X is just treating you the way he treats everyone--as subhuman crap too dumb to breathe in after you breathe out."--Don
DocX: FTW.--sparks
"Doctor X wins again."--Pyrrho
"Never sorry to make a racist Fucktard cry."--His Humble MagNIfIcence
"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone."--clarsct
"I'd leave it up to Doctor X who has been a benevolent tyrant so far."--Grammatron
"Indeed you are a river to your people.
Shit. That's going to end up in your sig."--Pyrrho
"Try a twelve step program and accept Doctor X as your High Power."--asthmatic camel
"just like Doc X said." --gnome

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quarky
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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

"We aren't in Kansas anymore, are we Toto?"

Well, it turns out that Judy Garland was onto something.

I started doing some research on Kansas:

Get this!
Kansas City isn't even in Kansas!
Sick, right?

Turns out, it's in fucking Missouri!
Yup. The goddamned 'show me' state.

(and that's just the tip of the iceberg, people.)

Rob Lister
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Pretty sure that Kansas City, Kansas is in Kansas. I think I've even been there.

quarky
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Rob Lister wrote:Pretty sure that Kansas City, Kansas is in Kansas. I think I've even been there.

Are you on drugs?

That's what they want you to think.

Google Kansas City, Mo.

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quarky wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:Pretty sure that Kansas City, Kansas is in Kansas. I think I've even been there.

Are you on drugs?

That's what they want you to think.

Google Kansas City, Mo.
Across the river from KC, KS.

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Doctor X wrote:
clarsct wrote:Thanks for the read, BTW, Doc X. Was good. I believe the precise number of people who died in those two bombings is 'A metric Fuckton'.

Which may still be less than would've died had we tried to invade....
Credit where credit is due, but the book Downfall is very detailed on the Japanese casualties happening just from the blockade, those happening from the fire-bombing. Further, the loses from airmen flying those missions--they were not "safe." Then add in the loses of American POWs. Then add in the Chinese and other civilians dying from famine and, well, torture/execution. The numbers are in the tens of thousands . . . per . . . month.

Realistic casualty estimates of an invasion--which did not believe the Japanese knew where they would invade--equal the casualties already suffered in the entire war up to that time. We are talking about a million expected casualties.

And the Japanese thought this was a "good thing" as in this would be enough for the US to sue for peace. If only they could inflict some great "victory" on the US. Hirohito--whom I refuse to refer to as "Showa"--held out to the last for this fleeting promise.

The reality sunk in that Tokyo was next. The US had one more working bomb and Tokyo was the target. Japanese military types tried to argue the US could not "possibly have a lot of bombs"--as if that means something--to which I would retort you know exactly how many bombs the US has when Tokyo is vaporized. It became clear to Hirohito--specifically--that the US would continue bombing and they would bomb Tokyo. The firebombings--which everyone reminds killed more than the atomic bombs did--demonstrated the US was willing to bomb the capitol.

None of this is "good."

It became "necessary."

--J.D.
I read somewhere that they had a million body bags ... waiting. As it was, they were keeping my Dad in, just in case. What that would have meant for the proto moi, I haven't a clue but it probably would not have been very good. I recommend Retribution by the estimable Sir Max Hastings for the wars end game.

Just bought Downfall, looks interesting as a companion piece to Hasting's work.
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Rob Lister
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### Re: Thought Provoking Graphs

I'm closer 50% on other and 20% on fast

but it depends on the definition of fast. Is delivery considered other or fast? It usually isn't really fast and I eat it at home. fucking graphs.

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Hey quarky!

Quick! Where is West New York?
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Looks right.

A couple more to complement that one:

Nonetheless, supposedly 1 in 6 Americans struggles with hunger.
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The last graph about the poor is a no-brainer. There are, after all, minimum requirements, with minimum costs. That doesn't change because you make less.

Viewing any of these as a function of income percentage is interesting, but I wonder too what it looks like in terms of actual dollars. So, a little work to work it backward

US: $1923 (seems low for me) UK:$1960 (seems really low for AC [fat bastard])
Fr: $3397 (holy shit) SA:$688
Br: $1279 In:$217
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Rob Lister wrote:The last graph about the poor is a no-brainer. There are, after all, minimum requirements, with minimum costs. That doesn't change because you make less.

Viewing any of these as a function of income percentage is interesting, but I wonder too what it looks like in terms of actual dollars. So, a little work to work it backward

US: $1923 (seems low for me) UK:$1960 (seems really low for AC [fat bastard])
Fr: $3397 (holy shit) SA:$688
Look at the right hand side on the second to last one.
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
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