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Grammatron wrote:Is it based on evidence or do you just assume someone having a child is incapable of being a productive employee?
I don't think that's it at all. Gender doesn't matter here. The point is its very difficult to do a good job raising a family and good a good job with a career if you are doing both.

eta: any single parent is at a disadvantage
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JEROME DA GNOME wrote:
gnome wrote:How dare those liberals, telling women they can have a career. Line em up!
No, the lie was you can have both.
Don't give me that, we obviously should not have let them out of the kitchen.
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gnome wrote:Don't give me that, we obviously should not have let them out of the kitchen.
Let who out of the Kitchen? My best friend in elementary school had a working mother and a stay at home father.

Sorry that you got suckered into advocating double taxation on the working class because you were taught to salivate when the bell rings.
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Gnome, you're being a fag. Just so you know.
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I'm playing strawman ping pong. He throws em, I throw them
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No strawmen.

Has not the economy progressively required two income households to pay for what a one income household could pay for 50 years ago?
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Your strawman is describing what "Liberals" "told" women they could do. The liberal line is for women to be able to choose. The timing of it is up to individuals, not ideology.
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Nope, Liberals Told women to go to work without telling the men to stay home.

Men staying home and women working, who cares? Nobody. Not the problem.

The problem is Liberals were suckered into promoting a double taxation on the working class.
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Jerome is playing the LIBBERUL's right wing strawman. :lmao:
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Now my head hurts with that one.
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JEROME DA GNOME wrote:Nope, Liberals Told women to go to work without telling the men to stay home.

Men staying home and women working, who cares? Nobody. Not the problem.

The problem is Liberals were suckered into promoting a double taxation on the working class.
Ok, I'll play that game. Nope, they didn't. Wanna go back and forth on that for a while?
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Really, can you show me the liberal movement to get men to stay home?
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Grammatron wrote:
ed wrote:As an employer I'd be very careful about hiring a young married woman into a position where I really really depended on her being there. As an entrepreneur it would be irresponsible.
Is it based on evidence or do you just assume someone having a child is incapable of being a productive employee?
I have had women leave me to go on maternity leave and not come back, after staying out the max permissible time. It is irresponsible to hire a person in that risk group if you are going to need to depend upon them.
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ed wrote:
Grammatron wrote:
ed wrote:As an employer I'd be very careful about hiring a young married woman into a position where I really really depended on her being there. As an entrepreneur it would be irresponsible.
Is it based on evidence or do you just assume someone having a child is incapable of being a productive employee?
I have had women leave me to go on maternity leave and not come back, after staying out the max permissible time. It is irresponsible to hire a person in that risk group if you are going to need to depend upon them.
Were those women valuable employees prior to maternity leave?
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JEROME DA GNOME wrote:Really, can you show me the liberal movement to get men to stay home?
Can you show me the liberal movement to say who should be working and who should not?

Let me put it this way--I've always said if you truly understand someone else's ideology, you can explain it in a manner that they would agree with, even if you still disagree. You're falling well short of that standard.
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I know what you think you stand for, I am explaining how you were tricked onto other results.
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ed wrote: I have had women leave me to go on maternity leave and not come back, after staying out the max permissible time. It is irresponsible to hire a person in that risk group if you are going to need to depend upon them.
I have had young college educated men go on vacation and not come back, after straying out the max permissible time.

Gender is not the issue.
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JEROME DA GNOME wrote:I know what you think you stand for, I am explaining how you were tricked onto other results.
It's very convenient when nobody but you has a legitimate philosophy--everyone else is just manipulators, shills or useful idiots.
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