## 'Murica

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Good.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:58 amUnfamiliarity is not the same as prejudice.
Indeed.

The problem is some use unfamiliarity or even an unwillingness to become familiar as an excuse to be prejudiced.

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Starving and Cannibalistic: America’s Rats Getting Desperate Amid Pandemic

"A new 'army' of rats come in, and whichever army has the strongest rats is going to conquer that area," said Bobby Corrigan, an urban rodentologist.

America's rats are being hit hard by the coronavirus. As millions of Americans shelter indoors to combat the deadly virus, which has claimed over 21,000 U.S. lives, many businesses — including restaurants and grocery stores — have closed or limited operations, cutting off many rodents' main sources for food. On deserted streets across the country, rats are in dire survival mode, experts tell NBC News.

"If you take rats that have been established in the area or somebody's property and they're doing well, the reason they're doing well is because they're eating well," Bobby Corrigan, an urban rodentologist, told NBC News. "Ever since coronavirus broke out, not a single thing has changed with them, because someone's doing their trash exactly the same in their yard as they've always done it — poorly."

But many other rats are not faring as well, said Corrigan, who works as a consultant for several city health departments and businesses, such as airports and shopping malls.

"A restaurant all of a sudden closes now, which has happened by the thousands in not just New York City but coast to coast and around the world, and those rats that were living by that restaurant, some place nearby, and perhaps for decades having generations of rats that depended on that restaurant food, well, life is no longer working for them, and they only have a couple of choices."

And those choices are grim. They include cannibalism, rat battles and infanticide.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nationa ... c/2254873/
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Or they could eat the homeless and the corpses of 10 million victims of the virus ...
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Hahaha
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Hahaha
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Rat battles, I been around the block a few times but...just... wow
... The stars were suns, but so far away they were just little points of light ... The scale of the universe suddenly opened up to me. It was a kind of religious experience. There was a magnificence to it, a grandeur, a scale which has never left me. Never ever left me.
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State Legislators Send Letter to Feds on Decision to Disestablish Wampanoag Land

MASHPEE – Members of the Cape’s legislative delegation have sent a letter to U.S. Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt, expressing their disappointment in the decision to disestablish and take land out of trust for the Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs last month was ordered to disestablish over 300 acres of land that was put into trust for the tribe.

The letter, which included state representatives and senators across the Commonwealth, stated the fact that the decision was made in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic “demonstrates a callous disregard for human decency.”

“This outrageous decision comes as we mark 400 years since the arrival of the Pilgrims in 1620 and recognize the People of the First Light who inhabited these shores for centuries before contact. The Department’s capricious action brings shame to your office and to our nation,” said the statement.

The Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe last week asked the U.S. District Court in D.C. to issue an emergency restraining order to prevent the Secretary of the Interior from taking the tribe’s land out of trust.

The move would delay the decision by Secretary David Bernhardt to terminate the tribe’s land in trust.
https://www.capecod.com/newscenter/stat ... noag-land/
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And there it is. Flag flown during Michigan protest in Lansing yesterday

https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comment ... _michigan/
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Witness wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:58 am
And there it is. Flag flown during Michigan protest in Lansing yesterday

https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comment ... _michigan/
Desperately hoping that's a poe site.
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Hotarubi wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:35 am Desperately hoping that's a poe site.
It's fake, at least the title:
70k+ Upvotes on a Post Claiming Trump Supporter Waves Nazi Flag at Michigan Rally. Man Is Actually a Bernie Bro at Boise Bernie Fest 2020.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/c ... supporter/

Still Murica.
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Eight of 10 most-banned books challenged for LGBTQ content

Nearly 600 books spanning a variety of genres and reading levels were the target of censorship attempts at libraries, schools and universities last year, and 8 out of the 10 that made the American Library Association’s “Most Challenged Books” of 2019 list shared a common denominator: LGBTQ content.

This latest ranking marks the fourth consecutive year that books with lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer storylines composed at least half of the list, which is included in the association's annual “State of America’s Libraries” report.
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... t-n1188041

Mat-Su school board pulls five books from English courses, including ‘Invisible Man’ and ‘Catch-22’

PALMER — The Matanuska-Susitna School Board has banned the teaching of five “controversial” books used for high school English courses.

The books, considered literary classics, are: “Invisible Man” by Ralph Ellison; “Catch-22” by Joseph Heller; “The Things They Carried” by Tim O’Brien; “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings” by Maya Angelou; and “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald.

All five books are used by high school classes in the Anchorage School District, some as required reading.

The Mat-Su School Board voted 5-2 at a Wednesday meeting to remove the books from the list of materials for English elective courses. Most members participated remotely. There was no public comment.
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Marine Corps Bans Public Display of Confederate Flag

In a letter, Gen. David H. Berger, the Marine commandant, said the symbol had “the power to inflame division.”

The commandant of the Marine Corps has banned the public display of the Confederate battle flag, a symbol that he said had the “power to inflame” division.

“I am mindful that many people believe that flag to be a symbol of heritage and regional pride,” Gen. David H. Berger said in a letter dated Monday and addressed to his fellow Marines. “But I am also mindful of the feelings of pain and rejection of those who inherited the cultural memory and present effects of the scourge of slavery in our country.”

The intent behind the ban was not to judge the meaning that individual Marines ascribe to the symbol, he said, but rather to help build “a uniquely capable warfighting team whose members come from all walks of life.”

The flag has the “power to inflame feelings of division,” he said, adding, “I cannot have that division inside our Corps.”

All Marine Corps installations have regulations prohibiting the display of symbols related to hate speech, guidelines that General Berger said were intended to foster an environment that promotes unity and security.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/us/m ... -flag.html
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I wonder when the US marines first started allowing public displays of the confederate flag? How many years after the civil war was it?
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"Political Correctness" is acceptable when I agree with it.
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Yes, every is free to listen to my speech.

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Supreme Court rules Georgia can’t put the law behind a paywall

The state of Georgia licensed the official copy of state law to LexisNexis.

A narrowly divided US Supreme Court on Monday upheld the right to freely share the official law code of Georgia. The state claimed to own the copyright for the Official Code of Georgia Annotated and sued a nonprofit called Public.Resource.Org for publishing it online. Monday's ruling is not only a victory for the open-government group, it's an important precedent that will help secure the right to publish other legally significant public documents.

"Officials empowered to speak with the force of law cannot be the authors of—and therefore cannot copyright—the works they create in the course of their official duties," wrote Chief Justice John Roberts in an opinion that was joined by four other justices on the nine-member court.

Everyone involved in the case agreed that the text of state statutes could not be copyrighted. But the state of Georgia argued that it could copyright annotations that are distributed with the official code. These annotations provide supplemental information about the law, including summaries of judicial opinions, information about legislative history, and citations to relevant law review articles. The annotations are produced by a division of legal publishing giant LexisNexis under a work-for-hire contract with the state.

The copyright status of the annotated code matters because the state doesn't publish any other official version. You can get an unofficial version of state law for free from LexisNexis' website, but LexisNexis' terms of service explicitly warned users that it might be inaccurate. The company also prohibits users from scraping the site's content or using it commercially. If you need the official, up-to-date version of Georgia state law, you have to pay LexisNexis hundreds of dollars for a copy of the official version—which includes annotations.

Public.Resource.Org defied Georgia's rules and published the entire code, including annotations, on its website. The group argued that as an official document of the state legislature, it couldn't be protected by copyright. The state sued and won at the trial court level. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed that ruling and sided with the non-profit. In an unorthodox move, the people at PRO urged the Supreme Court to review the case, even though doing so could reverse their appellate win, because they wanted to set a nationwide precedent.

The group's gamble paid off—but just barely. Five justices bought PRO's argument that Georgia's official code was in the public domain. Four justices dissented and would have allowed the Peach State to copyright portions of its official legal code.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... a-paywall/ for the rest.
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Witness wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:12 amhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... a-paywall/ for the rest.
I remember Darat giving me a warning and editing my post when I quoted a law once. He claimed I violated the copyright... I protested but he refused to change it back. He actually thought the law was copyrighted!
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You Irritated Him.

Reported.

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HuffPost:
Tribes Were Supposed To Get $8 Billion In COVID-19 Aid. They’ve Gotten$0.

The delay in disbursing the money “is unnecessary and works against the federal government’s trust responsibility,” House Democrats told Treasury.

Tribal governments were supposed to get $8 billion in direct emergency relief from the CARES Act, the$2 trillion COVID-19 stimulus bill that became law on March 27.

More than a month later, they haven’t gotten any of it.

Part of the reason is that the Treasury Department, which is charged with distributing that money, has been flailing in its dealings with tribes.

Another reason stems from a lawsuit over whether Alaska Native Corporations are entitled to the money. A federal court on Monday agreed to stop funds from going to those corporations for now, which means Treasury has no reason to not funnel money immediately to the 574 federally recognized tribal governments struggling with the public health and economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic.

In a Wednesday letter, House Democrats pressed Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Interior Secretary David Bernhardt to distribute the money now because lives are at stake.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tribes-c ... a8544487d9 with copy of the letter.
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Wow. They're not even getting blankets now.

(Maybe I should compare this to the Albigensian Crusade to try and excuse it. Especially when someone satirizes it.)
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Michigan (Governor's office door?):

Also Michigan:
Judge rules Michigan stay-at-home order doesn’t infringe on constitutional rights

A Michigan judge on Wednesday found that while Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home order does “temporary harm” to the constitutional rights of Michigan residents, the harm doesn’t outweigh the public health risk posed by the coronavirus outbreak.

Steve Martinko, owner of an Oakland County landscaping business, and four other Michigan residents filed a lawsuit against the governor and other state officials claiming the stay-at-home order infringes on their constitutional rights and should be declared invalid. The “mandatory quarantine” and in-state travel restrictions violate due process rights, the plaintiffs argued.

Michigan Court of Claims Judge Christopher Murray ruled in favor of Whitmer, Attorney General Dana Nessel and Department of Natural Resources Director Daniel Eichinger on Wednesday, April 29.

“Our fellow residents have an interest to remain unharmed by a highly communicable and deadly virus,” Murray wrote in his opinion. “And since the state entered the Union in 1837, it has had the broad power to act for the public health of the entire state when faced with a public crisis.”
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... ights.html
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Witness wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:12 am
Supreme Court rules Georgia can’t put the law behind a paywall

The state of Georgia licensed the official copy of state law to LexisNexis.

A narrowly divided US Supreme Court on Monday upheld the right to freely share the official law code of Georgia. The state claimed to own the copyright for the Official Code of Georgia Annotated and sued a nonprofit called Public.Resource.Org for publishing it online. Monday's ruling is not only a victory for the open-government group, it's an important precedent that will help secure the right to publish other legally significant public documents.

"Officials empowered to speak with the force of law cannot be the authors of—and therefore cannot copyright—the works they create in the course of their official duties," wrote Chief Justice John Roberts in an opinion that was joined by four other justices on the nine-member court.

Everyone involved in the case agreed that the text of state statutes could not be copyrighted. But the state of Georgia argued that it could copyright annotations that are distributed with the official code. These annotations provide supplemental information about the law, including summaries of judicial opinions, information about legislative history, and citations to relevant law review articles. The annotations are produced by a division of legal publishing giant LexisNexis under a work-for-hire contract with the state.

The copyright status of the annotated code matters because the state doesn't publish any other official version. You can get an unofficial version of state law for free from LexisNexis' website, but LexisNexis' terms of service explicitly warned users that it might be inaccurate. The company also prohibits users from scraping the site's content or using it commercially. If you need the official, up-to-date version of Georgia state law, you have to pay LexisNexis hundreds of dollars for a copy of the official version—which includes annotations.

Public.Resource.Org defied Georgia's rules and published the entire code, including annotations, on its website. The group argued that as an official document of the state legislature, it couldn't be protected by copyright. The state sued and won at the trial court level. The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed that ruling and sided with the non-profit. In an unorthodox move, the people at PRO urged the Supreme Court to review the case, even though doing so could reverse their appellate win, because they wanted to set a nationwide precedent.

The group's gamble paid off—but just barely. Five justices bought PRO's argument that Georgia's official code was in the public domain. Four justices dissented and would have allowed the Peach State to copyright portions of its official legal code.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... a-paywall/ for the rest.
This is heartwarming- the Supreme Court made a good decision on bipartisan grounds!

The bad uns, who think that the law can be locked away from the citizenry (2 conservative, 2 liberal):
Clarence Thomas
Sam Alito
Stephen Breyer
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What's being argued is annotations on the law, not the law itself. It is the work product of scholars, not lawmakers. I don't see the problem with copyrighting it.
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Rob Lister wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:06 pm What's being argued is annotations on the law, not the law itself. It is the work product of scholars, not lawmakers. I don't see the problem with copyrighting it.
I think that normal citizens should be able to access “ supplemental information about the law, including summaries of judicial opinions, information about legislative history, and citations to relevant law review articles” about the laws that govern them, without shelling out hundreds of dollars.

The free version warned that it might be inaccurate. That’s unacceptable for the citizens who might have to rely on it. Honestly, it’s as bad as removing public defenders.
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Giz wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:44 pm
Rob Lister wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 1:06 pm What's being argued is annotations on the law, not the law itself. It is the work product of scholars, not lawmakers. I don't see the problem with copyrighting it.
I think that normal citizens should be able to access “ supplemental information about the law, including summaries of judicial opinions, information about legislative history, and citations to relevant law review articles” about the laws that govern them, without shelling out hundreds of dollars.
Somebody has to create these summaries, opinions, history and citations; they don't create themselves. If that is the work product of the government, you're right. Is it?
The free version warned that it might be inaccurate. That’s unacceptable for the citizens who might have to rely on it. Honestly, it’s as bad as removing public defenders.
That's a different issue. Was that addressed by the SC?
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Witness wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 10:29 pm

Details: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.8815257
FFS.
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Wow, so they really are Nazis.

Or just KY dumbasses.
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Probably just the typical stupid bigot who thinks calling someone by an ethnic slur is some sort of "win" for them.

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Anaxagoras wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 5:39 am Wow, so they really are Nazis.

Or just KY dumbasses.
Worse... ILLINOIS Nazis.

Jake would hate them.
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Perfect metaphor: These protesters are gullible as guppies.
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Witness, I think the post is misplaced, but whatever. Since we're here

Sharmel Teague, Larry Teague Jr. and Ramonyea Bishop

You're pic of the victim appears to be Teague, one of the accused. Or they're twins.
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Rob Lister wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 7:19 am You're pic of the victim appears to be Teague, one of the accused. Or they're twins.
It's from the BBC. Other news sites show the same pics (including yours) with the same captions.

Apparently the two males (father and son) are still on the run.
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The owner of a “Muslim-free” gun shop was stumped into silence in a new documentary about Trayvon Martin when he was asked to name one cause for the Civil War besides slavery. Andy Hallinan, owner of Florida Gun Supply, was interviewed in an episode of the docuseries “Rest In Power,” where he insisted the Confederate flag was not a racist symbol.
https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ ... oOP7ttzOOk
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Native American health center asked for COVID-19 supplies. It got body bags instead.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/na ... t-n1200246

What the title says.
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Well, body bags are COVID-19 supplies.

But I think I know what they meant. The government was woefully underprepared for this.
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