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Louis-Philippe assistant dans un salon des Tuileries à la danse d'Indiens hovas. 21 avril 1845.
Karl Girardet.
Louis-Philippe watching a Hovas [Iowa, I presume?] Indian dance in a salon of the Tuileries palace.

Part of the European tour of George Catlin's "living" museum.

George Catlin by William Fisk, 1849.
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↑ Very superficial. You can make fun of lots of True Froggyweirdness™, e. g.:

"Pétanque en Provence", 1977.
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Destruction continues:
Gilets Jaunes: 137 arrested in Paris as protesters clash with police

(Pro tip: if you say "Gilets Jaunes" it sounds more sophisticated and worldly than "Yellow Vests". )

Meanwhile, the Faux News reports:
France's Yellow Vest protesters return to the streets enraged by billions pledged to rebuild Notre Dame

Personally I have a hard time finding any sympathy for people who use violence and destruction to get their way.
A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
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Like those damn Americans who fought the Brits for their precious "freedoms"
still working on Sophrosyne, but I will no doubt end up with Hubris
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Protecting this important place:

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Macron's party falls behind Le Pen's far right in EU election poll

PARIS (Reuters) - The party of far-right leader Marine Le Pen will top the upcoming European Parliament elections with 22 percent of the vote, just ahead of President Emmanuel Macron’s REM party, an Ipsos poll released on Sunday.
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The poll of 1,500 people was conducted on May 2-3, after Macron announced a series of proposals, including tax cuts worth 5 billion euros (5.6 billion), in a bid to appease the “yellow vests” anti-government protest movement. Macron’s REM party would obtain 21.5 percent of the vote, the Ipsos poll for France Television and Radio France showed. On April 18-22, 23 percent of the people polled said they would vote for REM, against 22 percent for RN. Macron is facing the biggest challenge of his presidency yet in the “yellow vest” protests, which started nearly six months ago over the high cost of living but spread into a broader movement against the former investment banker’s pro-business reform drive. Dissatisfaction over slow economic growth, security threats posed by Islamist militants and a backlash against migration across open EU borders have boosted support for nationalists in many member states. The RN and other eurosceptic anti-immigration parties in other EU states are planning to join forces after the EU parliamentary election. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-e ... ce=twitter Anaxagoras Posts: 29436 Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:45 am Location: Yokohama/Tokyo, Japan ### Re: The France thread I think it's just a case of Macron being unpopular. A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. William Shakespeare (probably Socrates originally) Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread I'll let you translate the panel's text. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Police officers will face charges over yellow vest protests PARIS — A leading French prosecutor says some police officers will face trial over the police violence that have taken place at protests by people wearing yellow vests. In an interview with the daily Le Parisien published Friday, Remy Heitz said 174 investigations linked to security forces have been opened in Paris. He said “some police officers will be sent before a criminal court by the end of the year.” Several cases are related to the use by police of rubber projectiles, Heitz noted, adding that no police officer has been handed preliminary charges so far. https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/05/31 ... -protests/ Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Still trying to build the nuclear reactor in Flamanville. (I say "try" because the security commission again wants the manufacturer to control dubious welds – which are now in "difficult to access" spots.) Initially, in 2007, the project was meant to last 5 years and cost 3.3 billions €. Project state as of June (https://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/ar ... 55770.html): Costs +233 %, duration +200 %. There are some calls for dropping it altogether. Of course Abdul will say that's completely normal for gub'ment work. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Some views from La France profonde (Deep France): Tour de France right now. Greatest yearly religious procession. Baguette drive-through, Leclerc supermarket in Brittany. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm is drive really French for something, or is it creeping Anglicism? Anglicism. No equivalent concept in French. With time it gets integrated, e. g. redingote from riding coat, bifteck from beef steak, &c. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread The law killing reimbursement of homeopathic medicines has been implemented (often laws in France are promulgated but never see their "décret d'application" and remain in limbo): https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/eli/decr ... D/jo/texte. No need to click, 'tis just what I wrote, but in administrative French. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread https://twitter.com/sthelenatourism/sta ... 65/photo/1 Giz Posts: 4371 Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:07 pm Location: USA! ### Re: The France thread Will he have to lip sync to Waterloo? Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Giz Posts: 4371 Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:07 pm Location: USA! ### Re: The France thread Wasn’t it some old Roman who said that the sinews of war are unlimited dough? Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Death after heart attack during sex deemed 'workplace accident' by Paris court A French man’s death after a heart attack during sex has been declared a “workplace accident” by a Paris court because it happened on a business trip. The Paris Court of Appeal overturned a ruling in May that the man’s former employer should be found liable. Lawyers for the construction company TSO argued that his 2013 death occurred during an interruption of his job duties, but the Court of Appeal decided that the entire business trip could be considered work. “In this particular case, the employee was on a business trip, which includes the work time devoted to the business trip (time of travel, working time during the day, rest time during the trip),” a court spokesman told Euronews, adding that this also covers nighttime while he is away from home. “During the entire period of the business trip, he remains under the employer’s authority until he’s shown that he has interrupted for an activity that cannot be considered part of everyday life,” they said. Sex is “a matter of everyday life, like taking a shower,” reads a French court statement. Until a trip is interrupted by an activity that is not deemed part of everyday life, the employee remains under the employer’s authority, the court said. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/death-afte ... -1.4588438 Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread French rightwing power broker jailed for tax fraud A French court on Friday jailed a rightwing power broker who has dominated politics in a wealthy suburb of Paris for decades, after convicting him of hiding millions of euros' worth of assets from the tax authorities. The sentence handed down by a Paris court against Patrick Balkany, longtime mayor of Levallois-Perret, was one of the stiffest yet for a French politician convicted of tax fraud. His wife and longtime deputy Isabelle Balkany, who attempted suicide in May, was given a three-year jail term but not placed under arrest. In dramatic courtroom scenes, police arrested Balkany, 71, to begin serving his term as the verdict was being read out and his wife looked on. The pair were also banned from holding office for 10 years. The trial had captivated much of France, where it was seen as a test of the ability of the courts to hold well-connected and long-established power players to account. The Balkanys, who are close friends of former president Nicolas Sarkozy, also face a second verdict in October on more serious charges of money-laundering and corruption. […] Both have been convicted previously of conflicts of interest, and both were handed suspended prison sentences in 1996 for the personal use of municipal employees, including one who was employed as their private chauffeur. https://www.france24.com/en/20190913-fr ... -tax-fraud Quotes from Mrs. Balkany: • "We made mistakes like everyone when we were young politicians... but the punishment must be proportionate to the crime," she told the BFMTV news channel. • "It's not my fault if I was raised in a 3,000 square-metre townhouse in the 16th (arrondissement of Paris) and went to school in a Rolls!" Isabelle told Le Journal du Dimanche weekly in 2015. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Witness wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:38 pm Plot twist: The panther of Armentières was stolen last night at the Maubeuge zoo The panther from Armentières, which had been in quarantine at the Maubeuge zoo for a few days before leaving for the Loire, was stolen last night at an "undetermined time". When the caregivers arrived around 8 a.m. this morning, his pen was empty, revealed La Voix du Nord, information confirmed by the northern police. Fingerprinting was in progress on site this Tuesday morning. The video surveillance will also be analysed. The town of Maubeuge, owner of the zoo, sent a press release in which it stated that "the security airlock with high standards, because it is adapted to wild animals, has been forced on 6 security points. Substantial resources were therefore used." "Six security points have been damaged: the security airlock, the entrance door to the building which is armoured, and the box where the panther was," said Jimmy Ebel, director of Maubeuge Zoo. So in this case, it is indeed a case of a break-in and a strong desire to recover the animal, with significant means. The safety of the park, mainly around the wild animals, is something very controlled. So the means were very substantial to be able to access the animal." Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 26991.html Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Fin du titre actuel d'homéopathe décidé par l'Ordre des médecins AFP•03/10/2019 à 19:37 Le Conseil de l'Ordre des médecins a mis fin jeudi au titre actuel d'homéopathe pour les futurs médecins, tout en envisageant de l'accorder à l'avenir sous réserve de la création d'un "éventuel diplôme interuniversitaire", indépendant de l'industrie pharmaceutique. https://www.boursorama.com/bourse/actua ... e2fb6b176c End of the current title of homeopath decided by the Order of Physicians AFP-03/10/2019 at 19:37 The Conseil de l'Ordre des médecins ended on Thursday the current title of homeopath for future doctors, while considering granting it in the future subject to the creation of a "possible interuniversity diploma", independent of the pharmaceutical industry. Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread An opinion piece which provoked quite a stir (cushy jobs are at stake): TRIBUNE. "Why psychoanalysts must be excluded from the courts" A forum signed by sixty psychiatrists and psychologists calls for the Freudian approach to judicial expertise and university teaching to be excluded. Psychoanalysis must be thrown out of the courts: this is the new battle of Sophie Robert, a young filmmaker who has been fighting against the influence of this discipline for several years, because there is, she says, an urgency. "It is unbearable to hear judicial "experts" claim that babies have sexual "intentions", question the desire of victims of sexual assault, incest or that parents of autistic children have their children taken away from them in the name of pseudo-expertises! » Today, she is launching a platform to this end (see below), already signed by sixty psychiatrists and psychologists. Among them are, in particular, heads of hospital services or members of the National Council for Universities (CNU). "The families, associations and lawyers I deal with on a daily basis can no longer tolerate the damage and human tragedies caused by this discipline, which claims to be recognized as medical but has no serious scientific basis," she asserts. Author of the shock documentary "Le Mur" which, in 2011, denounced the psychoanalytical vision of autism and its effects within the hospital environment, the young woman has advanced in France the view of this disorder and its management. Thanks to it, the words of autistic people and their families, revolted by practices such as "wrapping" in icy cloths, by theories systematically calling into question the family environment, were heard. Inserm now clearly exonerates parents and in particular the so-called "refrigerator mothers" in the occurrence of autism. France is one of the few countries that has not aligned itself with international classifications of psychiatric disorders, with a persistent Freudian approach. In particular, its proponents refute the relevance of the evaluation of psychotherapies. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator & Witness https://www.nouvelobs.com/justice/20191 ... unaux.html. Apart from the Viennese charlatan, I think the Froggies also indulge in "memory reconstruction". Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread Damned oldsters! Man with rightwing links tries to burn French mosque, shoots two An 84-year-old former candidate for France's ultra-right party shot and seriously wounded two men in their 70s who saw him trying to burn a mosque in southwest France, police said, as the government expressed "solidarity" with Muslims. The octogenarian opened fire when two men, aged 74 and 78, came upon him trying to set fire to the door of the mosque in Bayonne on Monday afternoon, a police statement said. The victims were brought to a nearby hospital with serious injuries, while the suspected shooter was later arrested near his home. He had also set fire to a car outside the Mosque. Police identified the man as Claude Sinke, and said he had admitted to being the shooter. Sinke stood as a candidate for Marine' le Pen's National Front in 2015 regional elections, according to the official list. https://www.france24.com/en/20191028-ma ... shoots-two Giz Posts: 4371 Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:07 pm Location: USA! ### Re: The France thread Pfft, as if France will even be around in 5 years: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failur ... 1550851097 Snippet (from a former French government minister, now mayor of Lyon) Gérard Collomb, who is now mayor of Lyon, and who knows as much as anyone about France’s internal security situation. Collomb gave an interview in February 2018 which was only published in November of that year. Here is an excerpt: In your heart of hearts, how do you judge the security situation in France? Collomb: It’s very worrying. What I read every morning in notes from the police reflects a very pessimistic situation. The relations between people are very hard, people don’t want to live together… To what extent is immigration responsible for this? Collomb: Enormously so. It’s for that reason that, with Emmanuel Macron, we wanted to change the law… Your law only attacks illegal immigration. Legal immigration allows more than 200,000 people into the country each year… Collomb: It’s true. We’re doing it bit by bit. But that remains a problem… You think there is no more need for immigration in France? Collomb: “Yes, absolutely. You were speaking of vivre ensemble [living together] just now. What is happening? Collomb: Communities in France are engaging in conflict with one another more and more and it’s becoming very violent… What are you afraid of? Partition? Secession? Collomb: Yes, I’m thinking about that, that’s what worries me. How much time do we have before it’s too late? Collomb: I don’t want to create fear, but I think there’s very little time left. How much? Collomb: It’s difficult to estimate, but I would say that within five years the situation could become irreversible. Yes, we have five, six years to avoid the worst. Afterwards… Witness Posts: 35471 Joined: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:50 pm ### Re: The France thread French Polynesia govt raises price of baguette It has decided to increase the price of a standard bread stick, or baguette, by four Pacific francs or four US cents. A baguette will now cost 57 Pacific francs or 52 US cents. Bread is the territory's most common food item and according to regulations, a baguette in French Polynesia must measure between 50 and 60 centimetres and weigh at least 250 grams. Bakers lobbied for a price increase because their costs, such as staff salaries, had gone up. Professional bakers get subsidies for flour and fuel, which are worth aboutUS5 million a year.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pac ... f-baguette

Oh no, not the Holy Baguette©!
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The real problem with climate warming:

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Witness wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:18 am The real problem with climate warming:

In France, would that come under “horror” or “dystopian sci-fi”?
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↑ Both. (And anyway, as I noted elsewhere, the two genres are merging – or, more precisely, there doesn't seem to be any SF now which hasn't horror components.)

Ans they neglected Burgundy.

First native Zika cases in Europe confirmed as experts warn climate change could bring more

Three people caught Zika in Hyères, southern France, in August this year, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control has confirmed.

While Europe dealt with hundreds of imported cases during the outbreak of the virus three years ago, it never had a native case -- where local mosquitoes developed and spread the virus -- before now.

All three patients developed symptoms within a few days of each other, the ECDC said, meaning they were likely part of the same transmission cycle. They have recovered, and the risk to residents and travelers to the region is low, the organization added.
But the Earth's warming climate and increased travel between continents means that tropical diseases including Zika are becoming more likely to flourish in Europe, experts have said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/07/heal ... index.html
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Burgundian winemaker told me the grape harvest came three weeks earlier than in the past. And that was ~ 20 years ago.

The alcohol content has increased too: when I was young most red wines had 12 – 13°, 13.5 being a rarity. Now most show 13.5° with an occasional 14.
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Macron pension reform: France paralysed by biggest strike in years

France's largest nationwide strike in years has severely disrupted schools and transport.

Workers are angry about planned pension reforms that would see them retiring later or facing reduced payouts.

More than 800,000 workers from a wide range of professions demonstrated against the changes. Some cities saw clashes between protesters and police.

President Emmanuel Macron wants to introduce a universal points-based pension system.

That would replace France's current system, which has 42 different pension schemes across its private and public sectors, with variations in retirement age and benefits.
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More than 800,000 people had joined demonstrations in more than 100 cities across France, the interior ministry said. The CGT union said 1.5m people had turned out, including 250,000 in Paris.

The CGT also said workers had blocked seven of the country's eight oil refineries, potentially causing fuel shortages if the strike continues.

In Paris, popular tourist sites including the Eiffel Tower, the Musée d'Orsay and the Palace of Versailles were shut for the day.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50643323
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Notre Dame rector: Fragile cathedral might not be saved

Notre Dame cathedral is pictured in Paris, Tuesday, Dec. 24, 2019. Notre Dame Cathedral is unable to host Christmas services for the first time since the French Revolution, because the Paris landmark was too deeply damaged by this year's fire. (AP Photo/Thibault Camus)

PARIS (AP) — The rector of Notre Dame Cathedral says the Paris landmark is still so fragile that there’s a “50% chance” the structure might not be saved, because scaffolding installed before this year’s fire is threatening the vaults of the Gothic monument.
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“Today we can say that there is maybe a 50% chance that it will be saved. There is also 50% chance of scaffolding falling onto the three vaults, so as you can see the building is still very fragile,” he said.

The 12th-century cathedral was under renovation at the time of the accidental April fire, which destroyed its roof and collapsed its spire. With no more roof to keep the massive stone structure stable, the cathedral’s surviving vaults are crucial to keeping it standing, but they are vulnerable.

Some 50,000 tubes of scaffolding crisscrossed the back of the edifice at the time of the fire, and some were damaged. Removing them without causing further problems is one of the toughest parts of the cleanup effort.
https://apnews.com/48fee6c01627bca5f212c0f2e35d81cf
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As far as Notre Dame is concerned, I came, I saw, I left.
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Couldn't find an article in English, so I'll sum it up: a new law has been validated by the highest authority (the Conseil constitutionnel) allowing customs & IRS to track fraudsters by vacuuming social media.

Of course all that will be strictly regulated (e. g. judges will oversea the algorithms used ) and irrelevant information like religious or political opinions will be removed from the database "in five days" max. Promise.

Source, in French: https://www.nextinpact.com/news/108541- ... tielle.htm
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Dunno. What's the TSA's position on that?
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Charlie Hebdo trial opens in Paris with most suspects dead or presumed dead

As France prepares to mark the fifth anniversary of the 2015 Charlie Hebdo attacks on January 7, a trial linked to the massacre that left 12 people dead opened in Paris on Monday.

Of the 24, only five are expected to appear on the dock: 19 suspects fled to parts of Iraq and Syria once controlled by the Islamic State (IS) group and have since been killed or are believed to have been killed during the US-led coalition crackdown on the jihadist group.

The much-awaited trial of 24 suspects in the January 2015 attacks on French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo and a Jewish supermarket in Paris opened in the French capital on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the assault.

Families and loved ones of the victims hope the trial will shed light on the planning operations and networks that enabled radicalised youths to access weapons and conduct the attacks on French soil.

Absent suspects include the Belhoucine brothers, whose eldest son Mohamed is considered the mentor of the Hyper Cacher Jewish supermarket attack.
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