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Doctor X
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I have mentioned this before. See if the Majick of the Interwebz helps:

Yes!
N.y. Mugger Just Got A Good Lesson
January 31, 1989|By Mike Royko.
New Yorkers love to debate, argue, quarrel, and-most of all-psychoanalyze themselves and each other.

In what other city would the leading movie critic jump all over Woody Allen for making a movie that was simply funny, rather than using his gifts of insight to tell New Yorkers about their inner selves?

That actually happened. And Woody Allen apparently took the critic seriously and stopped making funny movies. Now he makes dour movies that are viewed only by his fellow neurotics.

What New Yorkers enjoy most, though, are guilt trips. They like experiencing them and, even more, they enjoy sharing the guilt with others.

One of the all-time great New York guilt trips occurred almost 25 years ago when a young woman named Kitty Genovese was murdered on a street in Queens.

More than two dozen people heard her screams, but only one called the cops and none left their homes to help her.

This became known as the Genovese Syndrome, and more than 1,000 articles and books were written on the case, asking the question: Why didnt anyone help?

The question was never fully answered. Some of the do-nothings were afraid of getting involved. Others werent sure what was happening. A few were callous. But it made New Yorkers feel guilty and many of them said it reflected a national indifference to the suffering of others.

Which was nonsense then and is nonsense now. Every day, all over America, ordinary people help strangers, often at their own risk. What made the Genovese case news, something unusual, was that no one did anything.

Now New Yorkers are wrestling with another ethical and moral issue. Or at least thats the way it is being presented. A headline in the New York Times described it as: A Mugging and a Mob Evoke Debate.

What happened was that a 67-year-old man got on an elevator in a housing project in Brooklyn.

Also on the elevator was a much younger man, age 24, who drew a knife and demanded the older mans money.

Before the robbery was completed, the younger man had slashed his victim in the face with the knife.

When the elevator stopped and the slasher got off, his victim began screaming the word: Chaptzum. In Yiddish, this means grab him, or something to that effect.

In that particular part of Brooklyn, there live many Hasidic Jews. And when they hear someone yell chaptzum, they react.

So dozens of them came running out of their homes, shouting chaptzum, and chased the elevator mugger.

They caught him and were apparently zealous in making sure he didnt get away.

By the time they finished restraining him, he was really restrained. When the cops and medics arrived, he was unconscious and at the hospital the doctors put him on the critical list.

The New York Times, which has a dignified style, didnt come right out and say it, but it appears that many of those who caught the man gave him one hell of a beating. He was in far worse shape than the old man who was knifed, who had his facial wounds stitched and went right home.

But now there is a debate over whether it was right or wrong for the crowd to take it upon themselves to try to stomp the mugger into the pavement. Most of the Jews who live in that project-at least those quoted in the New York press-say they think that while the crowd might have been overly enthusiastic, what they did was basically just and proper.

However, in the black neighborhood a few blocks away, where the young man lives as an unemployed street person, they think the crowd was unnecessarily brutal.

It was outrageous, one man was quoted. Fifty people beating up on one dude.

And others, of all races and religious persuasions, are chiming in.

I phoned a friend of mine in New York and he said: Yes, some people are saying it means we are going to have an outbreak of vigilante behavior, and they are worried. Some of them say that if he wasnt poor and homeless, he wouldnt have to steal, that society drove him to it. And slash an old man's face, apparently. Then there are those who say that poverty is no excuse, and he deserved what he got. And you hear some people say they should have caught him, but they shouldnt have worked him over. So you got all kinds of opinions.

So once again New York is in a dither, its favorite condition. When nobody helped Kitty Genovese, society was callous. When an angry mob jumps a knife-wielding mugger, maybe thats callous.

That movie critic could be right. Maybe Woody Allen should be New Yorks official shrink.

Myself, I take a simplistic view. When somebody pulls a knife on a law-abiding old man, he does so at his own peril.

The fact that hes still alive makes him a lucky young man. And it means that the crowd either showed some restraint or they all had small fists and feet.

I guarantee that if 50 people from Milwaukee Avenue in Chicago had chased him down, by the time the cops arrived, they wouldn`t have found enough of him to take a fingerprint.
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Witness
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From the Telegraph:

Woman injured during UK Wife Carrying Championships in Surrey

A competitor at the annual UK wife-carrying contest was stretchered off the Surrey course after being dropped on her head mid-race.

Footage posted online captured the painful moment the unidentified woman’s partner slipped on a muddy patch running on a downhill section of the 380-metre obstacle course in Dorking.

The unidentified pair tackled the treacherous course using the Estonian carry - where the 'wife' hangs upside-down on the carrier's back, with her legs positioned over his shoulders.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... ps-surrey/

Boys to be allowed to wear skirts at leading boarding school

Boys will be allowed to wear skirts at one of the country’s leading boarding schools.

The headteacher of Uppingham School in Rutland, whose alumni include Stephen Fry and celebrity chef Rick Stein, said any boy asking to do so would find a sympathetic ear.

Richard Maloney, who joined the Uppingham in September 2016, said: “I would hope that any pupil could come to me and say, ‘This is who we are, this is how we wish to express ourselves. We want to wear these clothes’, and we would probably allow that.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/0 ... ng-school/

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Grammatron
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Doctor X wrote:I have mentioned this before. See if the Majick of the Interwebz helps:

Yes!

--J.D.
I'm ok with it as long as they grab the right person, which with a vigilante mob is not always guaranteed.

Abdul Alhazred
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OK UKers.

Is this for real?
UK railway safety.jpeg
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Giz
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:OK UKers.

Is this for real?

UK railway safety.jpeg

Yep.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1312 ... ght_track/

Abdul Alhazred
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Football fans singing "sectarian" songs?
A group of supporters who sang sectarian songs on a train travelling between Cumbernauld and Glasgow Queen Street on Tuesday, August 27, is also being sought. Chief Superintendent Ellie Bird, area commander for the Scotland area BTP, said: "It would appear supporters are still prepared to indulge in this unsavoury and unacceptable behaviour.

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Giz
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Hope no one in the UK clicks that hate-link!

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Would this be "sectarian" enough to to to gaol in Scotland?

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Abdul Alhazred
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Seriously what were those guys singing?

Anti-Muslim stuff?
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Giz
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:Seriously what were those guys singing?

Anti-Muslim stuff?
In Scotland I’d assume rangers versus Celtic (Protestant soccer vs catholic soccer).

Abdul Alhazred
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So I guessed right the first time.
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I'm sure you'll be thrilled:

From The Crown Chronicles, no less.

Abdul Alhazred
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Will the Duke of Cambridge ascend to the throne after the beheading of Charles III?

I know beheading has been out of fashion for a while, but it might make a comeback.
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Abdul Alhazred
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Wanna be one of the kool kidz (or however you say that in English English) in the UK ...

https://www.knifefree.co.uk/

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asthmatic camel
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I'm only going to carry one of these, just to be on the safe...

Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.

Abdul Alhazred
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Is that a real product?

I want one.
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asthmatic camel
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It really is!

I want one, too but you'll have to smuggle one in for me because they don't ship to the UK. What about my LGBT rights???

Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.

Abdul Alhazred
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What about culinary tools such a chef's knives?

Those are potentially a lot more deadly than pocketknives.
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ed
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asthmatic camel wrote:It really is!

I want one, too but you'll have to smuggle one in for me because they don't ship to the UK. What about my LGBT rights???

Want me to buy one and ship it to you?

not exactly what I was thinking when I aspired to be an international arms merchant.
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