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Re: The UK thread

Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:10 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:20 am
'Twas Labour's neutral stance on Brexit that really buggered it for them. Nobody had the stomach for yet more negotiations and another bloody referendum. Corbyn's personal popularity ratings didn't help but this election was about Brexit and little else.
Honestly, this. Boris offered a simple choice. Mad Jeremy offered something altogether different. There were remainers who aren't on board with the whole marxist agenda.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:20 pm

ed wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:54 am
Who will leave the EU next? Poland, other central european countries?
If I were a betting man, I'd say Hungary.

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:20 am
'Twas Labour's neutral stance on Brexit that really buggered it for them. Nobody had the stomach for yet more negotiations and another bloody referendum. Corbyn's personal popularity ratings didn't help but this election was about Brexit and little else.
A bit of a purge in the Labour Party and Johnson not delivering on his promises in the north, then a return to socialism would be unsurprising.

A more English less Soviet sort of socialism. Socialism in the UK is historically not tied to Communism nor to continental Europe.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:17 pm

Johnson's going to have to spend an awful lot of money to make any palpable difference after ten years of public spending cuts. Three of Manchester's largest hospitals had closed their doors to patients yesterday, unable to cope with demand.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:29 am

↑ I won't be surprised if when the poor will get screwed harder yet.





BBC general election map, area vs. population:



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Re: The UK thread

Post by Giz » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:27 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:17 pm
Johnson's going to have to spend an awful lot of money to make any palpable difference after ten years of public spending cuts. Three of Manchester's largest hospitals had closed their doors to patients yesterday, unable to cope with demand.
Huh, sounds like it’s caused by the “ Norovirus, nicknamed the winter vomiting bug“ , although I suspect similar symptoms may result from waking up in Manchester.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by sparks » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:42 pm

Fuck.

So this is what it's come to.

Goddamnit.

Oh, and fuck.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:17 pm
Johnson's going to have to spend an awful lot of money to make any palpable difference after ten years of public spending cuts. Three of Manchester's largest hospitals had closed their doors to patients yesterday, unable to cope with demand.
It would follow that if Labour had won, they too would have to spend an awful lot of money etc.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:08 am

Allegedly from the fifties:

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From this Children's Encyclopedia. I grabbed it from a Reddit thread where there is an interesting Joyce quote: https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/commen ... land_in_a/

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:29 am

Homeless households in England rise by 23% in a year

Shelter urges government to tackle housing crisis with ‘new generation of social homes’

The number of households considered newly homeless or at risk of becoming so has increased by 11.4% across England in the past year, according to government figures, a rise of almost 7,000 households.

Between April and June 2019, 68,170 households were initially assessed as homeless or threatened with homelessness. Of those, 32,220 households were deemed to be homeless – an increase of 23% on the same time period last year.

The number of households living in temporary accommodation at hostels, bed and breakfasts, hotels and elsewhere was already at its highest level since 2007, and rose by 1,500 to 86,130.

Almost 130,000 children dependent on their parents and carers live in temporary accommodation, across more than 60,000 of the households without permanent homes. More than 7,000 of these are in bed and breakfasts, up 3.2% from the same time last year.

At the end of June 2019, there were 13,450 households in temporary accommodation with shared facilities, widely considered the worst type of housing. This has increased by 40% in five years.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:46 pm

Witness wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:08 am
Allegedly from the fifties ...
Here's a short story by Rudyard Kipling (set in India) that hits all the stereotypes: :coolspecs:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Namgay_Doola
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Turns out million pound notes aren't just a literary device. :mrgreen:

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2019/12/b ... notes.html
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:56 am

The news talk to each other:
Britain First leader officially joins Conservative Party: 'Boris Johnson is like us'

PM ‘obviously a populist nationalist under the surface, like the type of patriotism promoted by’ far-right group, statement says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 54061.html

‘Get Brexit done’: Wealthy Tory donors buying EU citizenship for themselves, documents reveal

Cyprus ‘golden passport’ scheme can secure EU nationality for just €2m
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 55266.html

Woman dies after waiting for ambulance in freezing cold for six hours

A woman died of cardiac arrest after being made to wait for an ambulance in freezing cold for six hours.

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https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/woman-dies-a ... ambulance/

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Re: The UK thread

Post by ed » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:02 am

Someone could have driven her.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:04 am

Had to look up Britain First.

If Wikipedia is to be believed they have organizational continuity with Fascists properly self so-called, by way of the British National Party..
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:16 am

US diplomat's wife Anne Sacoolas charged with causing death by dangerous driving over Harry Dunn death

Motorcyclist Harry, 19, died following the smash with a car being driven by Anne Sacoolas outside RAF Croughton on August 27.

Mrs Sacoolas, 43, the wife of a US intelligence officer working at the base, left the UK with her family claiming diplomatic immunity.

The decision to charge her with causing death by dangerous driving follows months of campaigning by Harry’s parents Charlotte Charles and Tim Dunn.​

In a statement released on Friday, Chief Crown Prosecutor Janine Smith, said:“Following the death of Harry Dunn in Northamptonshire, the Crown Prosecution Service has today authorised Northamptonshire Police to charge Anne Sacoolas with causing death by dangerous driving.

“The Director of Public Prosecutions has met with Harry Dunn’s family to explain the basis of the decision we have made following a thorough review of the evidence available.

“May I remind all concerned that criminal proceedings against Anne Sacoolas are now active and that she has a right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that there should be no reporting, commentary or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.”

Today’s decision will pave the way for extradition proceedings to begin against Mrs Sacoolas, who remains in the US.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/a ... 18466.html

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:57 pm



The UK is the kind of country where a guy can be named "Owen Jones" and you don't assume he's black. :)
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:23 am

Cobham takeover: Boris Johnson defends £4bn sale to US equity firm

Boris Johnson has defended the controversial £4bn takeover of UK defence and aerospace company Cobham by a US private equity firm.

The government approved the sale of Cobham to Advent International on Friday, after the deal was delayed because of national security concerns.

Former First Sea Lord Admiral Lord West said Cobham holds defence technologies which are "critically important".

But the PM said "a lot of checks" had been gone through to satisfy concerns.

Speaking on a trip to see British troops in Estonia, Mr Johnson said: "I think it's very important that we should have an open and dynamic market economy.

"A lot of checks have been gone through to make sure that in that particular case all the security issues that might be raised can be satisfied and the UK will continue to be a very, very creative and dynamic contributor to that section of industry and all others."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50879809 for the rest.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:36 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm
asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:17 pm
Johnson's going to have to spend an awful lot of money to make any palpable difference after ten years of public spending cuts. Three of Manchester's largest hospitals had closed their doors to patients yesterday, unable to cope with demand.
It would follow that if Labour had won, they too would have to spend an awful lot of money etc.
They were committed to doing so.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:00 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:36 am
Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm
asthmatic camel wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:17 pm
Johnson's going to have to spend an awful lot of money to make any palpable difference after ten years of public spending cuts. Three of Manchester's largest hospitals had closed their doors to patients yesterday, unable to cope with demand.
It would follow that if Labour had won, they too would have to spend an awful lot of money etc.
They were committed to doing so.
Is the money in fact there, now that expropriating the expropriators is no longer part of the program?
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:10 pm

Labour had planned to raise taxes and increase borrowing. The Tories were committed to relaxing fiscal policy. The money is not, in fact, there but it's easy enough to create, as we've seen with "quantitative easing".
Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:14 pm

So basically, if the Tories are to keep their promises to the North, they will have to be like Labour.

Regular old Labour, not red hot Reds, terrorists, or movie people. :)
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