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Giz wrote:Where do they think the hot air that drives their turbines comes from?
It's good that I read this during an intermission in my drinking, or I would have soiled screen & keyboard.

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An odd version of it.

"I" usually stands for "Inspiring" in that slogan.
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The only thing government has any business commenting on is if its illegal.
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Grammatron wrote:Maybe we should bring some freedoms back to UK.

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Politics Home wrote:Labour question Theresa May's vow to stand up to Russia amid Tory funding revelations

Russian oligarchs have registered donations of more than £820,000 to the Tories since Theresa May took over in July 2016 according to The Sunday Times.

The news comes after the Prime Minister pledged “action” against the Russian state if it was found to be responsible for the poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia.

The paper found at least £253,950 came from Lubov Chernukhin, the wife of a former Moscow minister and a previous donor in September, while businessman Alexander Temerko, a former senior figure in Russia’s defence industry has handed the party £148,000 since 2016.

Overall the Tories have reportedly received more than £3m from Russian-linked tycoons, their companies and lobbyists since the coalition government came to power in 2010.
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National Trust apologises to Cornish after appearing to endorse putting cream on scones first

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The offending image, published on the Lanhydrock House and Garden Facebook page, shows jam served on top of clotted cream. CREDIT: NATIONAL TRUST
Must be a joke, right? Oh, no, no, no, no. This is serious business.
The rivalry between Devon and Cornwall over the correct order of cream and jam on a scone is one of the country’s fiercest disputes, and locals are expected to know where their side stands.

A National Trust property in Cornwall therefore prompted understandable outrage after it advertised cream teas for Mother’s Day - with a photograph showing the cream being spread before the jam.

The advert, from Lanhydrock House and Garden, has been called “unacceptable”, “shocking” and “disgusting”, with some Cornish people threatening to cancel their memberships.
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Which two mighty powers have, as I was going to tell you, been engaged in a most obstinate war for six-and-thirty moons past. It began upon the following occasion. It is allowed on all hands, that the primitive way of breaking eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger end; but his present majesty’s grandfather, while he was a boy, going to eat an egg, and breaking it according to the ancient practice, happened to cut one of his fingers. Whereupon the emperor his father published an edict, commanding all his subjects, upon great penalties, to break the smaller end of their eggs. The people so highly resented this law, that our histories tell us, there have been six rebellions raised on that account; wherein one emperor lost his life, and another his crown.
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Reminiscent of the Great Stilton Cheese row, (we take these things seriously.) Stilton cheese, a great favourite, may not be sold as such when it is produced in the village of Stilton, from which it gets its name.
Stilton is an English cheese, produced in two varieties: Blue, known for its characteristic strong smell and taste, and the lesser-known White. Both have been granted the status of a protected designation of origin by the European Commission, which requires that only cheese produced in the three counties of Derbyshire, Leicestershire, and Nottinghamshire and made according to a strict code may be called "Stilton". Thus cheese made in the village of Stilton which is now in Cambridgeshire (from where its name was derived in the 18th century) could not be sold as "Stilton".
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I can't tell if it's pro-conformity or supposed to be mocking conformists.

Probably the latter.
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Anaxagoras wrote:I can't tell if it's pro-conformity or supposed to be mocking conformists.

Probably the latter.
Probably.

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Ah, a "good manners" campaign usurped by pranksters.

Japan also has some posters in trains encouraging the passengers have good manners.

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Someone has got to have made one about not having sex on a train.

Being Humble--Yet MagNIfIcent--I searched and found cartoon versions of the anti-"chikan"--ちかん--or "molester" posters. Warnings about this, I am sure you know, exist.

The problem is I fortunately checked where they came from: Stormfront and a number of no one in particular and generic racist fucktard sites. After five of them I gave up. I do not know if the Japanese Original colored the chikan but, there you go. Black figure smiling as he gropes a girl to the horror of watching "not black" riders.

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Grammatron wrote:
Anaxagoras wrote:I can't tell if it's pro-conformity or supposed to be mocking conformists.

Probably the latter.
Probably.

https://www.channel4.com/news/transport ... gn-spoofed
Maybe a bit of both? Like how Americans argue on facebook about pineapple on pizza like it's a serious issue. It isn't, but it's fun to pretend it is. It also provides an opportunity to release some harmless outrage which is not 100% made up, just understood to be frivolous.
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Indeed, given only fags would put a pineapple on pizza.

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Good job, I couldn't find any source.
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Shropshire Star wrote:Ironbridge Power Station petition goes global as people in America and France join the fight to save the station's iconic towers

The process of taking down the towers with controlled detonations is due to begin proper in Spring 2018.

Mr Morris said he was determined to put a stop to the plans by persuading the company to look at other options. He said: “They’re going to need two years and two million pounds to knock them down – why not spend a million and make it into a visitor’s attraction? Those towers are a part of Ironbridge history.

“We might not win but we have to try.”
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The Daily Fail wrote:Yes, sir! Former soldiers to get £40k bursaries to retrain as teachers in a bid to restore discipline in UK classrooms

Former soldiers will get £40,000 bursaries to retrain as teachers in a drive to restore discipline in the classroom, the Government has announced.

From September, all ex-servicemen and women will be able to apply for the money to do a teaching degree as long as they have the relevant A-levels.

The Department of Education hopes the veterans will bring a fresh perspective to their schools.

It means children could be taught by heroes from some of our most gruelling recent conflicts, including Afghanistan and Iraq.

The bursaries will be available for those who want to teach biology, chemistry, computing, maths or modern languages – subjects with teacher shortages.

Education secretary Damian Hinds said: ‘Our ex-servicemen and women … have a wealth of experience and expertise that can be shared in the classroom, teaching pupils the knowledge they need to succeed alongside vital skills, such as leadership and self-discipline.’

Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson added: ‘Through leadership, teamwork and problem-solving, veterans are ideally suited for a career in teaching once they leave the Armed Forces.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... drive.html
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The Guardian wrote:Post-Brexit passports set to be made by Franco-Dutch firm

The post-Brexit blue passport will not be produced by the British firm that makes the current burgundy version, with sources suggesting the contract will be awarded to a Franco-Dutch firm instead.

Changing the colour is regarded by some Brexiters as a powerful symbol of Britain’s restored sovereignty.

But the British firm De La Rue has lost out on the contract to make them, its chief executive confirmed on Thursday morning. It is understood that Gemalto, which is listed on the French and Dutch stock exchanges, won the race for the £490m printing job.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Thursday morning, the chief executive of De La Rue, Martin Sutherland, challenged the prime minister or the home secretary to “come to my factory and explain my dedicated workforce why they think this is a sensible decision to offshore the manufacture of a British icon”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dutch-firm

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The irony is that Britain couldn't exist without foreign trade; we're heavily reliant on imports for even basic necessities like food and power. Meanwhile, back in the good ol US of A, Donald Trump's trade war with China is off to a good start. :)

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Great buying market, thanks fools.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:No irony at all. Brexit doesn't mean an end to international trade.

It just happens that an EU member underbid Mexico and Taiwan. :BigGrin3:
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The Telegraph, quite some time ago, wrote:Court refuses trial by combat

A court has rejected a 60-year-old man's attempt to invoke the ancient right to trial by combat, rather than pay a £25 fine for a minor motoring offence.

Leon Humphreys remained adamant yesterday that his right to fight a champion nominated by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) was still valid under European human rights legislation. He said it would have been a "reasonable" way to settle the matter.

Magistrates sitting at Bury St Edmunds on Friday had disagreed and instead of accepting his offer to take on a clerk from Swansea with "samurai swords, Ghurka knives or heavy hammers", fined him £200 with £100 costs.
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BBC wrote:London murder rate overtakes New York's

A spike in violent crime in London saw more murders committed in the city in February and March than there were in New York, figures show.

So far in 2018, the Met Police has investigated 46 murders, compared with 50 in the US city.

But, while New York's murder rate decreased from the end of January, London's rose markedly from that point.

Ex-Met Police Ch Supt Leroy Logan says it is proof that "London's violent traits have become a virus".

Statistics from the New York Police Department (NYPD) and the Metropolitan Police, reported in the Sunday Times and obtained by the BBC, highlight narrowing murder rates between the two cities, which have similar population sizes.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:Yours:
Don't drag me into this! :wink:

P. – S.:

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Witness wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Yours:
Don't drag me into this! :wink:

P. – S.:

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http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16136 ... tab-wound/
A 78-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed during a reported burglary this morning in Hither Green.

One of the burglary suspects, a 38-year-old man, was stabbed in the during a struggle with the resident and later died from his injuries.

A spokesman for the Met Police said it received a call at around 12.45am this morning to reports of a burglary in progress in South Park Crescent.

The spokesman told News Shopper: "The 78-year-old resident had found two males inside his address.

"A struggle ensued between one of the males and the homeowner.

"The man, aged 38, sustained a stab wound to the upper body."

The injured man, found collapsed in Further Green Road, was taken to a central London hospital by London Ambulance Service but died from his injuries at 3.37am.
Finally that 78-year-old pensioner is locked up and the streets will be safe again.
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Good thing he did not have a gun.

Thousands could have died.

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The police, under pressure over the surge in knife crime, will be able to claim that they have made an arrest in a stabbing.

This is good for the stats. Which is good for the chief superintendent's bonus. Whether it is good for you plebians is irrelevant.
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Grammatron wrote:http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16136 ... tab-wound/
A 78-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed during a reported burglary this morning in Hither Green.

One of the burglary suspects, a 38-year-old man, was stabbed in the during a struggle with the resident and later died from his injuries.

A spokesman for the Met Police said it received a call at around 12.45am this morning to reports of a burglary in progress in South Park Crescent.

The spokesman told News Shopper: "The 78-year-old resident had found two males inside his address.

"A struggle ensued between one of the males and the homeowner.

"The man, aged 38, sustained a stab wound to the upper body."

The injured man, found collapsed in Further Green Road, was taken to a central London hospital by London Ambulance Service but died from his injuries at 3.37am.
Finally that 78-year-old pensioner is locked up and the streets will be safe again.
A follow up says he's out on bail.

The same news agency reports on self-defense laws below.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16137 ... -intruder/
In reality there have been few prosecutions in instances such as these, but cases will be dealt with on an individual basis and in many circumstances a jury will have the final say.
With few prosecutions on this type, I think it's fair to suppose the homeowner did not fall afoul of these laws simply because he defended himself and the person got harmed. Of course, everyone's going to argue like the right of self defense is under referendum.
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gnome wrote:With few prosecutions on this type, I think it's fair to suppose the homeowner did not fall afoul of these laws simply because he defended himself and the person got harmed. Of course, everyone's going to argue like the right of self defense is under referendum.
There's been no evidence presented that he did anything wrong.

In a sane world the surviving burglar would be charged with murder, since the death resulted from his felonious actions.
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He should sue the owner for maintaining an unsafe home.




What?

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gnome wrote:With few prosecutions on this type, I think it's fair to suppose the homeowner did not fall afoul of these laws simply because he defended himself and the person got harmed. Of course, everyone's going to argue like the right of self defense is under referendum.
There's been no evidence presented that he did anything wrong.

In a sane world the surviving burglar would be charged with murder, since the death resulted from his felonious actions.
The guy was arrested "on suspicion of murder", fairly routine procedure when somebody has died as the result of a fracas. It's now up to the Crown Prosecution Service to decide whether or not he used "reasonable force" in protecting himself and his property. On the information available, I'd be surprised if he's prosecuted but it's a possibility.

In a similar case, old farmer Tony Martin was succesfully prosecuted because he shot an intruder in the back as he was attempting to flee the premises and this was judged to be excessive force.
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Update: No charges are to be brought in this case.
A pensioner who was arrested for fatally stabbing an intruder in his home is to face no further action.

Henry Vincent, 37, died following a break-in at a south east London property belonging to Richard Osborn-Brooks on Wednesday.

Mr Osborn-Brooks, 78, was arrested on suspicion of murder and released on bail, but on Friday the Metropolitan Police told him no further action will be taken.

Following consultations with the Crown Prosecution Service, the force said it had informed Vincent's family of the development and explained to them the reasons why no charges will be brought.

Detective chief inspector Simon Harding said: "This is a tragic case for all of those involved.

"As expected with any incident where someone has lost their life, my officers carried out a thorough investigation into the circumstances of the death.
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gnome wrote:With few prosecutions on this type, I think it's fair to suppose the homeowner did not fall afoul of these laws simply because he defended himself and the person got harmed. Of course, everyone's going to argue like the right of self defense is under referendum.
There's been no evidence presented that he did anything wrong.
We've seen all the evidence presented? It might not all be currently unavailable, or some information conveniently left out to sell the "homeowner charged when defending his home" angle? We've never seen that before, of course, not ever. It seems clear the police are not in the habit of prosecuting people in this situation (cf. "few prosecutions"), so doesn't that imply more information than we have?

Edit: it seems the answer is that the decision to prosecute had not yet been made.
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Thanks for the extra info AC.
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I have mentioned this before. See if the Majick of the Interwebz helps:

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N.y. Mugger Just Got A Good Lesson
January 31, 1989|By Mike Royko.
New Yorkers love to debate, argue, quarrel, and-most of all-psychoanalyze themselves and each other.

In what other city would the leading movie critic jump all over Woody Allen for making a movie that was simply funny, rather than using his gifts of insight to tell New Yorkers about their inner selves?

That actually happened. And Woody Allen apparently took the critic seriously and stopped making funny movies. Now he makes dour movies that are viewed only by his fellow neurotics.

What New Yorkers enjoy most, though, are guilt trips. They like experiencing them and, even more, they enjoy sharing the guilt with others.

One of the all-time great New York guilt trips occurred almost 25 years ago when a young woman named Kitty Genovese was murdered on a street in Queens.

More than two dozen people heard her screams, but only one called the cops and none left their homes to help her.

This became known as the ``Genovese Syndrome,`` and more than 1,000 articles and books were written on the case, asking the question: Why didn`t anyone help?

The question was never fully answered. Some of the do-nothings were afraid of getting involved. Others weren`t sure what was happening. A few were callous. But it made New Yorkers feel guilty and many of them said it reflected a national indifference to the suffering of others.

Which was nonsense then and is nonsense now. Every day, all over America, ordinary people help strangers, often at their own risk. What made the Genovese case news, something unusual, was that no one did anything.

Now New Yorkers are wrestling with another ethical and moral issue. Or at least that`s the way it is being presented. A headline in the New York Times described it as: ``A Mugging and a Mob Evoke Debate.``

What happened was that a 67-year-old man got on an elevator in a housing project in Brooklyn.

Also on the elevator was a much younger man, age 24, who drew a knife and demanded the older man`s money.

Before the robbery was completed, the younger man had slashed his victim in the face with the knife.

When the elevator stopped and the slasher got off, his victim began screaming the word: ``Chaptzum.`` In Yiddish, this means ``grab him,`` or something to that effect.

In that particular part of Brooklyn, there live many Hasidic Jews. And when they hear someone yell ``chaptzum,`` they react.

So dozens of them came running out of their homes, shouting ``chaptzum,` and chased the elevator mugger.

They caught him and were apparently zealous in making sure he didn`t get away.

By the time they finished restraining him, he was really restrained. When the cops and medics arrived, he was unconscious and at the hospital the doctors put him on the critical list.

The New York Times, which has a dignified style, didn`t come right out and say it, but it appears that many of those who caught the man gave him one hell of a beating. He was in far worse shape than the old man who was knifed, who had his facial wounds stitched and went right home.

But now there is a debate over whether it was right or wrong for the crowd to take it upon themselves to try to stomp the mugger into the pavement. Most of the Jews who live in that project-at least those quoted in the New York press-say they think that while the crowd might have been overly enthusiastic, what they did was basically just and proper.

However, in the black neighborhood a few blocks away, where the young man lives as an unemployed street person, they think the crowd was unnecessarily brutal.

``It was outrageous,`` one man was quoted. ``Fifty people beating up on one dude.``

And others, of all races and religious persuasions, are chiming in.

I phoned a friend of mine in New York and he said: ``Yes, some people are saying it means we are going to have an outbreak of vigilante behavior, and they are worried. Some of them say that if he wasn`t poor and homeless, he wouldn`t have to steal, that society drove him to it. And slash an old man's face, apparently. Then there are those who say that poverty is no excuse, and he deserved what he got. And you hear some people say they should have caught him, but they shouldn`t have worked him over. So you got all kinds of opinions.``

So once again New York is in a dither, it`s favorite condition. When nobody helped Kitty Genovese, society was callous. When an angry mob jumps a knife-wielding mugger, maybe that`s callous.

That movie critic could be right. Maybe Woody Allen should be New York`s official shrink.

Myself, I take a simplistic view. When somebody pulls a knife on a law-abiding old man, he does so at his own peril.

The fact that he`s still alive makes him a lucky young man. And it means that the crowd either showed some restraint or they all had small fists and feet.

I guarantee that if 50 people from Milwaukee Avenue in Chicago had chased him down, by the time the cops arrived, they wouldn`t have found enough of him to take a fingerprint.
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