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Re: The UK thread

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Re: The UK thread

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:59 am

UK museums task staff with identifying 'stolen' colonial collections

Major institutions including the British Museum and V&A are working to reassess the provenance of some of their key objects brought to Britain from overseas under the Empire, to provide an honest assessment for visitors.

The collections have come under increasing pressure in recent years to acknowledge “stolen” items, facing calls to return star objects to their native countries.

The British Museum, which holds the Elgin marbles and Benin bronzes, has regularly emphasised the “great public benefit” of having such items on display in the context of its world collection, and its commitment to the safe-keeping of its treasures.

But, as a new generation of visitors demand answers, it, along with the V&A and the Pitt Riv
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... llections/

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:31 pm

Is British cooking "filthy muck"?

That is the expression used by George Orwell in describing the fare at the tripe shop lodging house where he stayed in Wigan.

At any rate, it is apparently the official policy of the British government, according to this article.

Will ‘Frenzied Hectoring’ by British Food Nannies Never End?
Reason
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"The free-will question needs turning on its head," wrote Sonia Sodha in The Guardian last month. What does Sodha's upside-down willpower argument look like?

"There's no free choice about the [food] industry reshaping our tastes to benefit its profit margins without us even realizing," writes Sodha, who goes on to suggest that "some" "libertarians" "perhaps" share "a disdain for people just too greedy to leave some of their dinner on their plate." (I was taught to clean my plate and to avoid straw man arguments.)

...
OK the article does not say "filthy muck", that is just my interpretation. 8)
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:31 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:31 pm
describing the fare at the tripe shop lodging house where he stayed in Wigan.
Reminded me of Bill Tidy's Fosdyke saga:

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Re: The UK thread

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Re: The UK thread

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:17 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:03 am

FTFY :)
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:07 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:31 pm
Is British cooking "filthy muck"?

That is the expression used by George Orwell in describing the fare at the tripe shop lodging house where he stayed in Wigan.

At any rate, it is apparently the official policy of the British government, according to this article.

Will ‘Frenzied Hectoring’ by British Food Nannies Never End?
Reason
...

"The free-will question needs turning on its head," wrote Sonia Sodha in The Guardian last month. What does Sodha's upside-down willpower argument look like?

"There's no free choice about the [food] industry reshaping our tastes to benefit its profit margins without us even realizing," writes Sodha, who goes on to suggest that "some" "libertarians" "perhaps" share "a disdain for people just too greedy to leave some of their dinner on their plate." (I was taught to clean my plate and to avoid straw man arguments.)

...
OK the article does not say "filthy muck", that is just my interpretation. 8)
I know you're an Orwell fan, Abdul, but he died in 1950 and times have changed. Do remember that Orwell was writing during the great depression, after the WW1 introduction of rationing, and through WW2 when rationing was reintroduced; it didn't finish until 1954. He also chose to immerse himself in the lives of the destitute and desperately poor, so don't rely on him for an accurate depiction of what most people ate at the time. Here's an interesting article about rationing from T3eh Grauniad about rationing, diet and health.
There can't be many people who would willingly return to the days of food shortages and rationing, but that doesn't usually stop our mums and grans fondly recalling the stodgy puddings, bread and dripping and shepherd's pies of their wartime diet. Today, as we tuck into ready-made curries and lasagne, it's tempting to smile smugly and think we all know what's good for us now. But as nutritional experts believe - and the Hymers family from Otley in Yorkshire can confirm - it may well be that Mum knows best.

Dieticians have long argued that wartime rationing provided the healthiest diet the British population has ever eaten, leading to dramatic post-war improvements in the nation's health. But now that ration books are consigned to museums, nutritionists still believe there are valuable lessons we can learn from the 40s diet that could help us beat the biggest threats to health today.
Filthy muck? Well, I'm not sure what your definition is. One of my grandfathers was an enthusiastic consumer of tripe and the other, (Welsh), loved boiled sheep brains. You won't find either in most supermarkets today but both are actually highly nutritious. My definition of modern "filthy muck" would include most takeaway food, pizza, ready meals packed with fat, added sugar and salt, sweets, crisps etc., all of which are helping to turn us into a nation of porkers!
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:32 pm

So the answer is -- Yes it's filthy muck, but it's not your grandfather's filthy muck. :coolspecs:
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm

The answer is -- there is no correct answer, because it's almost impossible to define what "British food" now is.

Here's Deliveroo's top ten most-ordered food in the UK, none of which are traditional favourites, like fish and chips.

Cheeseburger, Five Guys – London, UK
Boojum's Twojum, Boojum – Belfast, UK
Chicken Katsu Curry, wagamama – London, UK
Cheese 6oz American Cheeseburger, Gourmet Burger Kitchen – London, UK
Chicken Tinga Burrito, Mission Burrito – Bristol, UK
Medium Grilled Chicken Burrito, Tortilla – Brighton, UK
Crazy Salmon Roll, Kenji Sushi – Edinburgh, UK
Byron Burger, Byron – London, UK
Dead Hippie Burger™, MEATliquor – London, UK
Oahu Bowl, Ahi Poké – London, UK

That doesn't mean traditional British foods aren't still popular, just that there's been a huge increase in the range of food Brits regularly eat, even since I was a boy.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm

So bad British food nowadays is bad American food + curry. :BigGrin3:
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:46 pm

Heh. Curry has been around for so long that it pretty much is traditional British food and has evolved into something that often bears little resemblance to the food Indians eat. For example, you won't find many Hindus eating Beef Vindaloo, and Chicken Tikka Masala, another popular dish, was invented in Britain. :)
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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:49 pm

Sort of like Chop Suey being 100% American. 8)
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:59 pm

I suppose so, yes.

The British Curry
by Debabrata Mukherjee

The UK now celebrates National Curry Week every October. Although curry is an Indian dish modified for British tastes, it’s so popular that it contributes more than £5bn to the British economy. Hence it was hardly surprising when in 2001, Britain’s foreign secretary Robin Cook referred to Chicken Tikka Masala as a “true British national dish”.

If Britain taught India how to play cricket, India perhaps returned the favour by teaching the British how to enjoy a hot Indian curry. By the 18th century, East India Company men (popularly called ‘nabobs’, an English corruption of the Indian word ‘nawab’ meaning governors or viceroys) returning home wanted to recreate a slice of their time spent in India. Those who couldn’t afford to bring back their Indian cooks satisfied their appetite at coffee houses. As early as 1733, curry was served in the Norris Street Coffee House in Haymarket. By 1784, curry and rice had become specialties in some popular restaurants in the area around London’s Piccadilly.
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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:53 pm

Anyway, excuse me for now, it's dinner time...

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:46 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:53 pm
Anyway, excuse me for now, it's dinner time...

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FTFY HTH

BTW, fish sticks are an American favorite. :wink:

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:16 pm

asthmatic camel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:46 pm
Heh. Curry has been around for so long that it pretty much is traditional British food and has evolved into something that often bears little resemblance to the food Indians eat. For example, you won't find many Hindus eating Beef Vindaloo, and Chicken Tikka Masala, another popular dish, was invented in Britain. :)
Lucky man! Our local curry is:
– extremely bland (and sold as "strong", never tried the "mild" version, blargh!), so I have to add cayenne pepper;
– packaged in ridiculously small jars (33 g).

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:05 am

OK. Change of pace time.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Giz » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:19 pm

"A Scottish Labour councillor has been reinstated into the party after she was suspended for suggesting a joint front page by three Jewish newspapers condemning antisemitism was a Mossad bid to discredit Jeremy Corbyn."

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/scot ... r-1.478270

Because that is par for the course in Labour now.
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