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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:52 am

These 9 things are 'officially Islamophobic' after UK councils adopt new definition
  • • Calling for, aiding, instigating or justifying the killing or harming of Muslims in the name of a racist/fascist ideology, or an extremist view of religion.
  • • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Muslims as such, or of Muslims as a collective group, such as, especially but not exclusively, conspiracies about Muslim entryism in politics, government or other societal institutions; the myth of Muslim identity having a unique propensity for terrorism and claims of a demographic ‘threat’ posed by Muslims or of a ‘Muslim takeover’.
  • • Accusing Muslims as a group of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Muslim person or group of Muslim individuals, or even for acts committed by non-Muslims.
  • • Accusing Muslims as a group, or Muslim majority states, of inventing or exaggerating Islamophobia, ethnic cleansing or genocide perpetrated against Muslims.
  • • Accusing Muslim citizens of being more loyal to the ‘Ummah’ (transnational Muslim community) or to their countries of origin, or to the alleged priorities of Muslims worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • • Denying Muslim populations, the right to self-determination e.g., by claiming that the existence of an independent Palestine or Kashmir is a terrorist endeavour.
  • • Applying double standards by requiring of Muslims behaviours that are not expected or demanded of any other groups in society, eg loyalty tests.
  • • Using the symbols and images associated with classic Islamophobia.
  • • Holding Muslims collectively responsible for the actions of any Muslim majority state, whether secular or constitutionally Islamic.
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... ef=mr&lp=4

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:04 am

Accusing Muslim citizens of being more loyal to the ‘Ummah’ (transnational Muslim community) or to their countries of origin, or to the alleged priorities of Muslims worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Does it count as "Islamophobic" if an Imam tells them they'd better be like this or else go to Hell?
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Post by Witness » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:28 am

‘Dickensian diseases’: gout, whooping cough and scarlet fever on rise

UK hospital visits for illnesses common in Victorian era up by 3,000 a year since 2010

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The Gout by James Gillray – a 1799 cartoon of the agony induced by the inflammatory disease, cases of which have increased 38% between 2010 and 2018. Photograph: Lordprice Collection/Alamy
There has been a sharp rise in hospital visits for diseases that were common during the Victorian era, such as scarlet fever, whooping cough and gout, research reveals.

Despite certain illnesses virtually being eradicated in the 1950s, hospital attendances for some “Victorian diseases” have risen by 52% since 2010-11, an increase of over 3,000 admissions a year.

The rise has been put down to sustained cuts to local authority public health budgets, which experts say have resulted in the services that protect against illness being scaled back.

Helen Donovan, the Royal College of Nursing’s professional lead for public health, said the findings were concerning.

“The government should accept its responsibility for failing the most vulnerable in our society and commit to investing properly in vital public health services,” she said.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... er-on-rise

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Post by Giz » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:32 pm

"Stansted 15: no jail for activists convicted of terror-related offences

Judge says group ‘didn’t have a grievous intent as some may who commit this type of crime’"


https://amp.theguardian.com/global/2019 ... w-leniency

What the fuck? 'They didn't have a grievous intent'? The judiciary is now giving certain ideologies get out of jail free when committing crimes? !

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Post by Witness » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:18 am

Muslim school will not allow girls to eat lunch until after boys have finished, Ofsted chief says

A Muslim school will not allow girls to eat lunch until after boys have finished, an Ofsted chief has told MPs.

Al-Hijrah school in Birmingham is still segregating boys and girls despite a Court of Appeal ruling in 2017 that found it was unlawful, according to Luke Tryl, director of corporate strategy at Ofsted.

Addressing the women and equalities select committee, he said that Ofsted inspectors are trying to hold schools account for discriminating against girls but feel “isolated” when their stance is not backed up by ministers.

“Our inspectors are going out and having to make some quite tricky judgements where there are those potential clashes [between equalities laws and religious freedoms],” Mr Tryl said.

“We perhaps don’t always feel we get the support we need from the rest of Government in pushing that forward.”

He said that Al-Hijrah school was enforcing a “very strict gender segregation” which included “denying the girls to have their lunch until the boys had had theirs”. “And we had some very discriminatory texts for instance, encouraging violence against women,” he said.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2 ... -finished/

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Witness » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:01 am

School cancels play about Darwin and evolution after Christian parents complain

It has provoked anger among other families who call the decision 'shameful'

A primary school has cancelled a play about Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution following complaints from a group of Christian parents.

Several families threatened to withdraw their children from the play, which is aimed at 7- to 11-year-olds, as they felt one of the scenes “mocked” a bishop involved in a historic debate on evolution.

Hartford Manor Primary School, a non-religious community school in a village in Cheshire, decided to cancel the musical Darwin Rocks and replace it with a less divisive show following the objections.

But the decision to cancel the play has provoked anger among another group of parents who argue that it is “unacceptable” that their children have been denied a valuable learning opportunity.

Alan McDonald, a parent at the school who wants the production to be brought back, said: “It really does feel like a huge step backwards.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/educ ... reddit.com

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Giz » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:34 pm

Gotta say, I’m kinda sympathetic to this:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... aid-budget

“Calls for a multibillion-pound cut in the UK’s overseas aid budget and closure of the Department for International Development (DfID) as a separate Whitehall entity are set out in a new Conservative vision for a post-Brexit “global Britain” backed by the former foreign secretary Boris Johnson.

Current definitions of aid spending would be broadened to include peacekeeping, and the BBC’s World Service would be expanded, as part of an effort to restore Britain’s ability to project soft and hard power.

The paper argues the UK should be freed to define its aid spending unconstrained by criteria set by external organisations, and its purpose expanded from poverty reduction to include “the nation’s overall strategic goals”. UK aid spending, set by law at 0.7% of gross national income, was £13.4bn in 2016.”


All seems very sensible.

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Post by Witness » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:37 am

Madrassa ousted from secondary school following lesson telling Muslim girls to have children, not careers

A madrassa that gave a lesson suggesting Muslim girls should have children rather than careers has been ousted from a secondary school amid safeguarding concerns.

Langley Academy has terminated its contract with the Al-Miftah Institute, which provided ‘IslamHood’ Sunday school classes from its campus in Slough.

It followed complaints by a member of the public and the National Secular Society that IslamHood had hosted speakers with controversial views about homosexuality. Another speaker complained about women in hijabs making social media videos and described non-Muslims as “pigs”.

A recording also emerged of an IslamHood class showing a lesson by Shaykh Shams Ad-Duha Muhammad on why Muslim girls should have children instead of careers.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... ng-muslim/

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Post by Witness » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:07 am

Isil bride Shamima Begum 'considering challenging' Home Office decision to revoke her British citizenship

The lawyer representing the jihadi bride, Shamima Begum, has said her family is considering "all legal avenues to challenge the decision" after she had her British citizenship revoked by the Home Office.

The 19-year-old, who had expressed the desire to return to the UK with her newborn son, will now be banned from entering the country.

International law forbids nations from making people stateless by revoking their only citizenship, prompting speculation that Begum held dual citizenship.

But on Wednesday morning, Begum's lawyer Tasnime Akunjee said that although her client's parents are both from Bangladesh, their daughter does not have dual nationality.
[…]
Ms Begum travelled to Syria from her home in east London in December 2014 and married an Isil fighter.

Her first two children died, and last week she was discovered in a refugee camp where she issued a plea to return to Britain.

But despite saying she wants to bring her baby son up in the peace and security of the UK, she has insisted she has no regrets about travelling to Syria.

She has also been criticised for likening the deaths of 22 people in the Manchester Arena terror attack to the civilians being bombed in Isil territory.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... oked-home/

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Re: The UK thread

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:24 pm

After all, the UK is a fairly peaceful place to bring up children compared to other Muslim countries.
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Post by Giz » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:54 pm

Witness wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:07 am
Isil bride Shamima Begum 'considering challenging' Home Office decision to revoke her British citizenship

The lawyer representing the jihadi bride, Shamima Begum, has said her family is considering "all legal avenues to challenge the decision" after she had her British citizenship revoked by the Home Office.

The 19-year-old, who had expressed the desire to return to the UK with her newborn son, will now be banned from entering the country.

International law forbids nations from making people stateless by revoking their only citizenship, prompting speculation that Begum held dual citizenship.

But on Wednesday morning, Begum's lawyer Tasnime Akunjee said that although her client's parents are both from Bangladesh, their daughter does not have dual nationality.
[…]
Ms Begum travelled to Syria from her home in east London in December 2014 and married an Isil fighter.

Her first two children died, and last week she was discovered in a refugee camp where she issued a plea to return to Britain.

But despite saying she wants to bring her baby son up in the peace and security of the UK, she has insisted she has no regrets about travelling to Syria.

She has also been criticised for likening the deaths of 22 people in the Manchester Arena terror attack to the civilians being bombed in Isil territory.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... oked-home/
“Jeremy Corbyn says Shamima Begum 'should be allowed back to Britain' for 'support she needs'”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... owed-back/

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Post by Doctor X » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:42 pm

Of course.

She hates Jews too and will probably vote Labour.

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Post by Witness » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:03 am

UK's richest man moves to Monaco to 'save £4bn in tax'

Brexiter Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s company Ineos is reportedly working with PricewaterhouseCoopers to reduce bill

Britain’s richest man, the Brexit supporter Sir Jim Ratcliffe, and two of his key lieutenants at chemicals firm Ineos have reportedly been planning to save up to £4bn in tax after moving to Monaco.

The company, which is valued at about £35bn, is working with tax experts at PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) to create a new structure for the business to dramatically reduce the tax paid on its global revenues, according to the Sunday Times.

Ratcliffe, who has lobbied to weaken green taxes and reduce restrictions on fracking, owns 60% of Ineos, which made profits of more than £2.2bn last year and employs 18,500 people. His top two lieutenants at Ineos, Andy Currie and John Reece, each own 20% of the company worth £7bn and were also reported to be moving to Monaco and involved in the tax avoidance plan.

It emerged last year that Ratcliffe, the founder and chief executive of Ineos, was preparing to move to the tax-free principality on the Côte d’Azur, but the latest reports indicate exactly how much the three could save – putting the minimum at £440m.

Ratcliffe’s cash-saving shift abroad comes despite vocal support for Brexit in the run-up to the referendum in 2016 when he said: “Never forget that we have a decent set of cards.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... onaco-move

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:22 am

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pm

Stripping jihadi bride Shamima Begum of her British citizenship could spark extremist backlash against UK, warns Home Office advisor
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Radical Islamists could exploit the decision to strip Shamima Begum of her British citizenship, the Government's chief adviser on countering extremism has warned. ...
Emphasis added.

I want to know what a person has to do to get that job.

Also possibly relevant:
Ambrose Bierce wrote:A Racial Parallel

Some White Christians engaged in driving Chinese Heathens out of an American town found a newspaper published in Peking in the Chinese tongue, and compelled one of their victims to translate an editorial. It turned out to be an appeal to the people of the Province of Pang Ki to drive the foreign devils out of the country and burn their dwellings and churches. At this evidence of Mongolian barbarity the White Christians were so greatly incensed that they carried out their original design.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:09 am

Giz wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:54 pm
Witness wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:07 am
Isil bride Shamima Begum 'considering challenging' Home Office decision to revoke her British citizenship

The lawyer representing the jihadi bride, Shamima Begum, has said her family is considering "all legal avenues to challenge the decision" after she had her British citizenship revoked by the Home Office.

The 19-year-old, who had expressed the desire to return to the UK with her newborn son, will now be banned from entering the country.

International law forbids nations from making people stateless by revoking their only citizenship, prompting speculation that Begum held dual citizenship.

But on Wednesday morning, Begum's lawyer Tasnime Akunjee said that although her client's parents are both from Bangladesh, their daughter does not have dual nationality.
[…]
Ms Begum travelled to Syria from her home in east London in December 2014 and married an Isil fighter.

Her first two children died, and last week she was discovered in a refugee camp where she issued a plea to return to Britain.

But despite saying she wants to bring her baby son up in the peace and security of the UK, she has insisted she has no regrets about travelling to Syria.

She has also been criticised for likening the deaths of 22 people in the Manchester Arena terror attack to the civilians being bombed in Isil territory.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... oked-home/
“Jeremy Corbyn says Shamima Begum 'should be allowed back to Britain' for 'support she needs'”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... owed-back/
She doesn't even make a pretense that she's sorry?
Doctor X wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:42 pm
Of course.

She hates Jews too and will probably vote Labour.

--J.D.
Reminds me of something I heard on a podcast earlier about 2 American women who joined ISIS and now want to come home. They at least say they are sorry now. I don't feel much sympathy for their plight, because their own stupid choices put them where they are, but at least they now understand, or claim to understand what they did wrong.

The American Women Who Joined ISIS

It's from the New York Times.
Our colleague met two American women at a refugee camp in Syria who spoke of their regret about joining ISIS. “I can’t believe it. I ruined my life. I ruined my future,” one of them, 24-year-old Hoda Muthana, said.

President Trump said that the United States would not allow Ms. Muthana to return.

Other countries are grappling with the question of what to do with former Islamic State members who want to return. The British government has told the family of Shamima Begum, a teenager who traveled to Syria four years ago, that it intends to revoke her citizenship, according to her family.
Text story here:
2 American Wives of ISIS Militants Want to Return Home

One girl was raised by extremely conservative Muslim parents, and so I guess she grew up very socially isolated and with a warped world-view due to her upbringing. The other is an older white woman who grew up Mennonite but converted to Islam. She may have some mental issues according to her relatives.
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Post by Doctor X » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:20 am

Fuck all of them, frankly.

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Re: The UK thread

Post by asthmatic camel » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:02 am

Doctor X wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:20 am
Fuck all of them, frankly.

--J.D.
Well, yes. Unless you wish to throw away the rule of law, which says Shamima Begum is a Brtitish citizen and deserves the rights and punishments which that entails.

I doubt that the silly girl would last long if allowed to return.
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Post by Doctor X » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:20 am

asthmatic camel wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:02 am
Doctor X wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:20 am
Fuck all of them, frankly.
Well, yes. Unless you wish to throw away the rule of law, which says Shamima Begum is a Brtitish citizen. . . .
Not according to the law that actually matters.
I doubt that the silly girl would last long if allowed to return.
There is no death penalty in the American Colonies. Evidences:



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In the rain.

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Post by Witness » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:13 am

Electronic GPS tags to track thousands of criminals in England and Wales

Currently, electronic tags are linked to a box at a fixed address, such as an offender's home, with alerts generated if they are not there at certain hours.

But the new location tags will track a person's movements wherever they go.

Justice Secretary David Gauke said the tags will better protect victims of domestic abuse or stalking.

Standard electronic tags - largely used to enforce a curfew or house arrest - issue an alert if the person wearing the tag is not present at a particular address during the hours they are meant to be.

Around 60,000 offenders currently wear these standard tags in England and Wales.

The GPS tags can be used to create a no-go zone, check an offender is attending a rehabilitation programme, monitor an offender's behaviour, or ban someone from going within a certain distance of an address - such as a fellow criminal's or victim's home.

The GPS tags, which cost £9 a day, will be rolled out everywhere in England and Wales from this summer.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47256515