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Re: Thanks Obama(care)

Post by xouper » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:37 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:57 am
. . . Every year hundreds of thousands of Americans declare bankruptcy due to medical bills. (The exact number is unclear, but some estimates put it over 600,000).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/64300 ... cal-bills/
I assume you noticed that (according to snopes, and others I have seen) a large percentage of US bankruptcies that claim medical as the reason, they had medical insurance but had subsequently lost their job, and thus it is not reasonable to blame lack of health coverage for the bankruptcy.

Same thing in Canada, where the number two reason given for bankruptcies is medical, even though everyone in Canada is covered by health insurance. This is because a large percentage lost their job.

So I would be especially careful about using bankruptcy numbers as part of any argument about health insurance.

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Re: Thanks Obama(care)

Post by Doctor X » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:02 am

Anaxagoras wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:41 am
Doctor X wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:11 am
Because Japan gives away health care to millions of illegal immigrants?
Is that a significant factor? :notsure:
Yes.
I'm sure it adds to the cost, . . .
See California's hospitals.

Your link is irrelevant since they did not and do not simply end up in "public" hospitals that receive "public" money. They end up in all hospitals which eat the costs. The difference is that citizens and legal immigrants without insurance or enough insurance can legally seeks various assistance--a sad topic in and of itself--the illegal cannot.

And they cannot "go" anywhere. "Public" hospitals are under no obligation to "take" illegals who have no resources and cannot, legally, get them unless the state decides to offer them for reasons that generate yet another topic: giving free health care to illegal immigrants but not citizens who are indigent.

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