## Battle over Air Force’s $1,300 coffee cup This is our lounge area. Feel free to come in and get acquainted! Rob Lister Posts: 20111 Joined: Sun Jul 18, 2004 7:15 pm Title: Incipient toppler Location: Swimming in Lake Ed ### Battle over Air Force’s$1,300 coffee cup

An airman holds a hot cup inside a KC-10 Extender at Travis Air Force Base, Calif., June 21. The Air Force says it can 3-D print replacement handles for 50 cents, which will keep it from having to shell out $1,280 for a replacement cup. But Sen. Chuck Grassley is still wondering why these water heaters are so necessary if they are going to cost that much. (Tech. Sgt. James HodgmanAir Force) https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your ... -heats-up/ The Air Force, under fire for throwing down$1,280 apiece to replace in-flight reheating cups after their handles break, is pledging to use 3-D printing to get that replacement cost down to 50 cents.

But Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, is still wondering why these pricey water heaters are necessary in the first place, and plans to keep pushing the Air Force to find cheaper ways to warm up their coffee.
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In an Oct. 2 letter to Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson, Grassley said that 25 replacement cups, each costing roughly $1,280 each, have been bought this year alone, for a total of roughly$32,000. The 60th Aerial Port Squadron at Travis Air Force Base in California spent nearly $56,000 to replace broken cups over the past three years. ... Wilson said that in July, she ordered a new Air Force Rapid Sustainment Office to be created to find ways to develop and deliver parts at a fraction of the cost of traditional manufacturing methods. This office has recently shown it can 3-D print replacement handles for the reheating cup for about 50 cents each. That$1280 represents replacement costs because the maker has to retool for a small production. The original cost was a paltry $700. So they're going to 3-D print the new handles. If the coffee cup costs$700/$1300, how much is the 3-D printer going to cost? And how many people work for the Air Force Rapid Sustainment Office? What are their salaries? Have they shown a profit? I suspect not. I'd like to point out that the US Navy had this very issue with the coffee makers in their P-3 Orion, each of which costs around$30,000 ims. Sure, it could make a perfect pot of coffee in an inverted negative 6 G dive, but is having coffee really worth that much? One might argue that a typical P-3 mission can be 5 to 10 hours and even airborne sailors really, really need their coffee. So a compromise was made: If you want coffee, bring one of these:

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### Re: Battle over Air Force’s $1,300 coffee cup But. . . We want to be able to make coffee during an inverted negative 6g dive, because Murica that's why!!1! Do you want the terrorists to win? A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. William Shakespeare Doctor X Posts: 68313 Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:09 pm Title: Collective Messiah Location: Your Mom ### Re: Battle over Air Force’s$1,300 coffee cup

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### Re: Battle over Air Force’s \$1,300 coffee cup

We choose to go make inverted 6g coffee in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.