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Re: Christmas Dinner

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asthmatic camel wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:50 pm I suspect the calumny originated with American GIs returning from Britain after WWs I & II when food was strictly rationed.
The French also have a very dim view of British cuisine, especially "boiled mutton in mint sauce", whatever that is.
Myself, I enjoyed eating in London, in part as you can taste foods from the whole (* trumpets *) Empire.

The Shetlands were nice too. I spent some days in a B&B where a… ahem… quite rotund lady busied herself all day in the kitchen, then, when we were as full as eggs, sent her husband and yours truly to the nearby (that's relative: a mile hike in refreshing Scottish weather) pub with the reminder to "be good boys". :)
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Re: Christmas Dinner

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ed wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:30 pm I'm familiar with their story.

I think that the difference in degree is orders of magnitude and that makes it a difference in kind. (<---n.b. quotable)

My experience in talking with Brits (YMMV) is that it is still a close in thing with them. Very close, like intimate.

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They really lost a generation of young men.

Yes. I suspect it was similar for us during the Civil War when they recruited units locally.

There are lots of similarities between WWI and the Civil War (local recruitment, large casualty numbers, early trench/siege warfare, mining/underground bombing operations, spotter blimps, early machine guns, etc.).

But everyone who lived though those losses are now gone, too.
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Re: Christmas Dinner

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Witness wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:28 pm
asthmatic camel wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:50 pm I suspect the calumny originated with American GIs returning from Britain after WWs I & II when food was strictly rationed.
The French also have a very dim view of British cuisine, especially "boiled mutton in mint sauce", whatever that is.
Myself, I enjoyed eating in London, in part as you can taste foods from the whole (* trumpets *) Empire.

The Shetlands were nice too. I spent some days in a B&B where a… ahem… quite rotund lady busied herself all day in the kitchen, then, when we were as full as eggs, sent her husband and yours truly to the nearby (that's relative: a mile hike in refreshing Scottish weather) pub with the reminder to "be good boys". :)
Boiled mutton/lamb is used to make Cawl, probably the Welsh national dish and Lancashire Hotpot, popular in these parts. Neither contains mint, although roasted lamb is traditionally served with mint sauce. There's nothing wrong with any of them, so the French can go fuck themselves. :D
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So very similar to Irish stew.

During my first travel in Ireland I wanted the impossible: having an Irish stew with a pint of Guinness. Apparently you could only combine it with wine. :?
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Re: Christmas Dinner

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shuize wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:38 pm
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Yes. I suspect it was similar for us during the Civil War when they recruited units locally.

There are lots of similarities between WWI and the Civil War (local recruitment, large casualty numbers, early trench/siege warfare, mining/underground bombing operations, spotter blimps, early machine guns, etc.).

But everyone who lived though those losses are now gone, too.
Actually, the American Civil War is considered by professionals a turning point in the art of such style of warfare.

You pointed to many changes, but one big one you left out -- President Lincoln ran a whole bunch of that conflict using a new style of communications room. I mean, his generals were actually doing some mighty stupid things in the early days and President Lincoln became a hands-on CINC. Funny, too, the history books when I was in my younger days didn't seem to cover that much. I learned about that when I was a WOC.

I also learned that about halfway through the war a number of European types showed up to watch the goings on. They also realized that changes were in the air in that art form. And as strange as that may read, making war is an art form.

Sorry, this is supposed to be about Christmas dinner, eh? That would be the mess hall. Or the field kitchen.
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