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xouper wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 am No, I do not think Delingpole is laying it on a bit thick. That one book is not the only thing Delingpole is referring to. Not even close.

Perhaps you might comment on Klaus's other books referenced by Delingpole?
I haven't read any of Klaus's books, so I really cannot comment on them. All I read is that one article describing the book which you linked to.

What I am against is the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties. That's what Delingpole's editorial is about, not technological progress.
Where do you get the idea that that's what it's all about? Who has called for "the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties"? :notsure:
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:09 am
xouper wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 am No, I do not think Delingpole is laying it on a bit thick. That one book is not the only thing Delingpole is referring to. Not even close.

Perhaps you might comment on Klaus's other books referenced by Delingpole?
I haven't read any of Klaus's books, so I really cannot comment on them. All I read is that one article describing the book which you linked to.
Delingpole cited several of Klaus's books, not just the one you focused on.

Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:09 am
xouper wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 am What I am against is the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties. That's what Delingpole's editorial is about, not technological progress.
Where do you get the idea that that's what it's all about? Who has called for "the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties"? :notsure:
To answer that, I refer you to Delingpole's two editorials I cited.
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xouper wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:25 am
Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:09 am
xouper wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:12 am What I am against is the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties. That's what Delingpole's editorial is about, not technological progress.
Where do you get the idea that that's what it's all about? Who has called for "the destruction of capitalism and free markets and personal liberties"? :notsure:
To answer that, I refer you to Delingpole's two editorials I cited.
Well, I'm not really convinced by those editorials. The closest thing I could find was a reference to this:

Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better

The author of this piece, written in 2016, is Ida Auken, a former member of the Danish Parliament. She says she is imagining a possible future.
Author's note: Some people have read this blog as my utopia or dream of the future. It is not. It is a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse. I wrote this piece to start a discussion about some of the pros and cons of the current technological development. When we are dealing with the future, it is not enough to work with reports. We should start discussions in many new ways. This is the intention with this piece.
The things she describes are rather far-fetched, and would require an economy where there is essentially limitless renewable clean energy and robots and AIs do most of the actual work.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:12 am Well, I'm not really convinced by those editorials.
Fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion. Reasonable minds can disagree.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:02 am
For months you say? Apparently Shinzo Abe used the same slogan back in 2015:
I'm going to ask a similar question....
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am Fuck

2020 just got even worse
Nope, the good news just keeps on coming.

We now have vaccines that work at 90-95% effectiveness, and we can reasonably assured that immunity lasts at least six months: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... s/2736878/

Covid, in the final analysis, is going to be a massive win for science.

I just hope people recognise that when it happens.
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Well, it didn't happen in time for Trump to take credit for it before the election, so it was obviously withheld just to spite him and probably is fake anyway and just a ruse to get people to submit to mystery vaccinations just because the government tells you so.
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The Atheist wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:33 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am Fuck

2020 just got even worse
Nope, the good news just keeps on coming.

We now have vaccines that work at 90-95% effectiveness, and we can reasonably assured that immunity lasts at least six months: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... s/2736878/

Covid, in the final analysis, is going to be a massive win for science.

I just hope people recognise that when it happens.
That particular comment wasn’t referring to Covid.

More one of the people the thread attracted
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gnome wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:10 pm Well, it didn't happen in time for Trump to take credit for it before the election, so it was obviously withheld just to spite him and probably is fake anyway and just a ruse to get people to submit to mystery vaccinations just because the government tells you so.
I have heard that being seriously claimed. Makes me wonder how many people are in in this massive conspiracy. Every state’s election officials, the entire media, the entire pharmaceutical industry...
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:45 pm
The Atheist wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:33 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am Fuck

2020 just got even worse
Nope, the good news just keeps on coming.

We now have vaccines that work at 90-95% effectiveness, and we can reasonably assured that immunity lasts at least six months: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... s/2736878/

Covid, in the final analysis, is going to be a massive win for science.

I just hope people recognise that when it happens.
That particular comment wasn’t referring to Covid.

More one of the people the thread attracted
It seems to me I'm the only one in this thread that might fit that description, especially given how much you have complained about me in the past.

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gnome wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:10 pm Well, it didn't happen in time for Trump to take credit for it before the election, so it was obviously withheld just to spite him and probably is fake anyway and just a ruse to get people to submit to mystery vaccinations just because the government tells you so.
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xouper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:10 am
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:45 pm
The Atheist wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:33 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am Fuck

2020 just got even worse
Nope, the good news just keeps on coming.

We now have vaccines that work at 90-95% effectiveness, and we can reasonably assured that immunity lasts at least six months: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... s/2736878/

Covid, in the final analysis, is going to be a massive win for science.

I just hope people recognise that when it happens.
That particular comment wasn’t referring to Covid.

More one of the people the thread attracted
It seems to me I'm the only one in this thread that might fit that description, especially given how much you have complained about me in the past.

So if I'm not welcome here, then please let me know and so I can apologize for ruining your day and then I'll not bother you again.
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xouper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:10 am
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:45 pm
The Atheist wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:33 pm
Nyarlathotep wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:09 am Fuck

2020 just got even worse
Nope, the good news just keeps on coming.

We now have vaccines that work at 90-95% effectiveness, and we can reasonably assured that immunity lasts at least six months: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/busines ... s/2736878/

Covid, in the final analysis, is going to be a massive win for science.

I just hope people recognise that when it happens.
That particular comment wasn’t referring to Covid.

More one of the people the thread attracted
It seems to me I'm the only one in this thread that might fit that description, especially given how much you have complained about me in the past.

So if I'm not welcome here, then please let me know and so I can apologize for ruining your day and then I'll not bother you again.
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Doctor X wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:36 am He knows. It is where Cornpop's ancestors came from.

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Looks like one more reason people are going to avoid the vaccine and we will be locked in our house forever, vaccine or no.

It's looking less and less worthwhile to stick around this planet

Doctors say CDC should warn people the side effects from Covid vaccine shots won’t be ‘a walk in the park’
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:51 pm The problem is exacerbated by scientist-politicians who will tell any lie to advance their faction and don't mind collateral damage.
Doesn't matter what they do. Forget about ever leaving the house without a mask, eating in a restaurant, going to a movie (I know YOU don't do that, but I do), visiting your family for holidays, etc ever again
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How will 'the next major war' change the sociological changes required by this pandemic?
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These are peculiarly stressful times, what with the pandemic and the absolutely nuts election. I told my sister, who has mental health challenges, to focus on what the good people are doing. Otherwise she'll get pulled into the collective insanity. One breath at a time.
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The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.
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Indeed, I suppose that global thermonuclear war might be described as disruptive. :)
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I think I'll post that video showing baby chicks being minced alive - just to cheer everyone up.
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Kittens being tossed into a meat grinder perhaps.
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sparks wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:18 pm Kittens being tossed into a meat grinder perhaps.
That's my kinda porn.
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Coronavirus latest: Antibodies persist for six months, Japan study says

That means at least 6 months. But probably longer.
9:18 a.m. A research team from Japan's Yokohama City University announced Wednesday that most people infected with the novel coronavirus have sufficient antibodies to prevent reinfection, even after six months. The study of 376 people found neutralizing antibodies in 97% of those with mild or asymptomatic infections, and in all of those with moderate or severe infections.
After 6 more months we'll know whether they last for a year.
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Ooooh. That means we get SIX months of freedom before never being able to leave our houses again.

That isn't twice as good. It's twice as cruel.
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I do not think people understand how vaccines work.

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Tough audience
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Skepticism is a process and not an attribute, Anax.

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Nyarlathotep wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:08 pm The creator of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine says life could return to normal by next winter

In the last few months I have heard, end of this year, next spring, next summer, now it's next winer, soon it will be 2022, 2023, etc.

This shit will never be over. "Normality" for what it is worth will never come, it will be precisely like Fusion Power, always 'just around the corner'. I will never get to go to a movie again, or a restaurant, or visit my family or anything.

My biggest regret is that the last movie I went to before this hit, was Birds of Prey, if I had known that was the last movie i would ever get to see in a theater, I would have picked something else.
Looks like Nyar is more and more right every day:

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White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said in her Thursday press conference that social distancing and mask-wearing is still necessary for Americans who have been vaccinated against COVID-19.
They keep moving the goalposts. Nyar is right, they will never let us get back to normal.
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What makes it especially bad for me is that most of my family lives on a reservation and I do not. And like most reservations these days, they are not allowing outsiders to enter, no exceptions. So until this shit is over I can't visit any of my sisters (except for one), my nieces, nephews, cousins, childhood friends, etc. Nobody. I can literally be arrested if I try (Okay, I have a couple of ins with the tribal cops and probably wouldn't be, but I don't want to put myself or anyone else in that position)

And this shit will never be over, these restrictions are going to be in place until the day I die. They have become "normal" now. And politicians are loathe to screw with normal. As long as there is the slightest chance that anyone, anywhere might catch Covid, these restrictions will stay in place
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Did a little math tonight and it doesn’t look good

Carson City and the surrounding counties have about 170,000 people between them. So far, to date, about 8000 of those people have gotten the vaccine. 80% coverage is the best estimate for herd immunity so that's about 136,000 people needed. Vaccine has been available for 2 months so that's about 4000/month.

So that means a BEST case scenario for heard immunity is 34 months, almost three years. And that's assuming that the virus doesn't mutate and become resistant in that time, a huge if since it already seems to be doing just that.

So this shit is never going to end. Even if it dies, movie, restaurants, etc aren’t going to survive three years of this and three years of lockdown isn’t going to be good for anyone’s mental health.

We are fucked. Captain Tripp’s would be better. A death sentence is better than life imprisonment
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You could move to South Dakota. :P
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My parents recently got their first shot of the Pfizer vaccine last week. They plan to go visit my brother and his family after they get their second shot in about 4 weeks. I guess they're saying it could be as much as 6 weeks, because the county isn't sure how much vaccine is coming in, but they are on a list now and they have at least had the first shot.

I've been following the progress using the Bloomberg vaccine tracker, although there are others you can use. But, while I'm sure that the rate of progress varies from location to location, the latest estimate is that at the current pace it will take about 10 more months to vaccinate 75% of the population.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covi ... tribution/
In the U.S., the latest vaccination rate is 1,426,098 doses per day, on average. At this rate, it will take an estimated 10 months to cover 75% of the population with a two-dose vaccine.
And the pace has generally been increasing so maybe they can even improve on that rate.

Here in Japan, vaccinations have not even begun yet. They are doing a second state of emergency as they call it here, which isn't exactly a lockdown because it's mostly voluntary, but it does seem to be working to lower the rate of new infections.
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There is evidence that the South-African strain of the virus still causes moderate disease in people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine. It's too early to know whether the vaccine prevents severe disease or death. I don't know if the data for how other vaccines affect the South-African strain is available yet.

The vaccine manufacturers are already talking about modifying the vaccines to target the new strains of the virus. It looks like it could be similar to the influenza vaccines where everyone is supposed to get a booster shot every year, at least, to target those strains that the scientists have guessed might be most prevalent over the coming months.

So it looks like we'll never be rid of this damn virus, and the vaccine manufacturers will forever be trying to catch up with the latest strains.

I watched the YouTube video lecture by the director of the UK Fusion research facility. He seemed hopeful that Fusion powered electricity generation would come eventually - but still at least twenty years away from being a commercial reality.

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ceptimus wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:19 pm . . . the South-African strain of the virus . . .
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