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So I've ascertained that Corplinx was banned and Abdul deleted his account, and that's led to some technical hoopaju, but I haven't figured out the story behind it. Was that a deleted thread too? Can someone hook me up with a link or a short summary? :?
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Copelinx wasnt banned, he did one if those narcissistic posturing in public exits and required all his posts deleted.
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Ah. Did Abdul do the same? Didn't he have the highest number of posts on the whole forum?
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Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:29 am Didn't he have the highest number of posts on the whole forum?
Between the two of them it was about 30% of all post
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Maybe more

The maths are hard

about 60,000 post are gone
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Wow. No wonder the forum is broke. It's like having the rug yanked out from under you, more like the foundation yanked from under your house.

Shit, man. That's....what.....20 years of posts? Just gone? That somehow seems more damaging than burning down your house. Except it's more like burning down you apartment complex. What was the final straw? I don't even remember Abdul getting pissy all that much.
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Corplinx was not banned. He departed voluntarily, he announced it and everything.
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Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:12 am Corplinx was banned
Interesting zero hypothesis. :mrgreen:

Seems to me it is very difficult (<— irony) to get banned from here, apart from doing something illegal or very stupid… or dying.


On a more serious note, with these two gone and a sizable fraction only showing up episodically, how will the forum fare? How do our old-timers see it: have there been such "skinny" phases before?
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Haven't you been watching the news? Skepticism is dying. We are the last of the old guard. The world is being taken over by flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, and Trump supporters. Bigfoot hunters and Ancient Aliens are the biggest hit shows on the History channel, for fuck sake. They'll be using our bones to ward off evil spirits when we're gone, Mr. Witness. Let's just hope we're long dead from old age when that happens.
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Nyarlathotep wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:04 am Corplinx was not banned. He departed voluntarily, he announced it and everything.
That's what THEY want YOU to think!
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shemp wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:33 am
Nyarlathotep wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:04 am Corplinx was not banned. He departed voluntarily, he announced it and everything.
That's what THEY want YOU to think!
Very considerate of you to call corplinx "they" so as not to assume their gender
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Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:20 am Haven't you been watching the news? Skepticism is dying. We are the last of the old guard. The world is being taken over by flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, and Trump supporters. Bigfoot hunters and Ancient Aliens are the biggest hit shows on the History channel, for fuck sake. They'll be using our bones to ward off evil spirits when we're gone, Mr. Witness. Let's just hope we're long dead from old age when that happens.
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In a world of universal deceit

Skepticism is not welcomed
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Abdul and corplinx both requested deletion. Abdul had upwards of 89,000 posts. I forget how many corplinx had. After deletion, Captain banned both of them for getting rabbit in their blood. Just a formality in keeping with the august nature of this citadel of intellectual discourse.
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Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:20 am Haven't you been watching the news? Skepticism is dying.
What do you expect? All the skeptics found politics.
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It’s funny how Captain is spoken of as an actual person
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It's a good thing this forum doesn't ban sock puppets then.
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If having a sock was a banning, I'd probably be the only one here.
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Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:12 am So I've ascertained that Corplinx was banned and Abdul deleted his account, and that's led to some technical hoopaju, but I haven't figured out the story behind it. Was that a deleted thread too? Can someone hook me up with a link or a short summary? :?
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"Violently" please explain.
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Fid wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:25 am "Violently" please explain.
Seriously. All three of you I have the highest respect for.
Edit: and yes you too Grammy even with them pants...
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shemp wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:08 pm If having a sock was a banning, I'd probably be the only one here.
I'm sockless too. :coolspecs:
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FWIW which is probably about $0.02 USD, I considered it none of my business why they wanted their user accounts and posts deleted and I didn't ask.
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:00 am FWIW which is probably about $0.02 USD, I considered it none of my business why they wanted their user accounts and posts deleted and I didn't ask.
That kind of integrity is worth a lot more than mere money.
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:00 am FWIW which is probably about $0.02 USD, I considered it none of my business why they wanted their user accounts and posts deleted and I didn't ask.
Fair point. I was only stating my opinion, not facts that I know to be true.
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xouper wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:51 am
Fid wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:25 am "Violently" please explain.
Are you asking for a list of things like this?

https://www.startribune.com/police-suspected-arson-levels-garage-at-home-with-trump-2020-flags/572507431/

Or this:

[url=https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarko ... ed-hat-n25


Yes, thanks.

Edit: A lot of xouper's links didn't make it through the edit but thanks.
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Seems the news media finally got what they wanted; America split right down the middle. People literally beating each other to death with American flags. Chaos and mayhem every day.

More at 11....
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Bruce wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:51 am Seems the news media finally got what they wanted; America split right down the middle. People literally beating each other to death with American flags. Chaos and mayhem every day.

More at 11....
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Witness wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:05 am
Bruce wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:12 am Corplinx was banned
Interesting zero hypothesis. :mrgreen:

Seems to me it is very difficult (<— irony) to get banned from here, apart from doing something illegal or very stupid… or dying.


On a more serious note, with these two gone and a sizable fraction only showing up episodically, how will the forum fare? How do our old-timers see it: have there been such "skinny" phases before?
The forum was initially very busy but many left because they found it too rough a playground. Since then a few of the regulars have died and a few have decided to leave for personal reasons. You're the only relatively new face who's stayed with us for quite some time.

As for skepticism in general, it pretty much died when James Randi retired. I doubt we'll see many new members now: the BB forum style is old hat.
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shemp wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:08 pm If having a sock was a banning, I'd probably be the only one here.
Does that mean we are all shemp sock puppets? I've heard that theory before actually...
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If Grammatron's speculation is accurate, I may think their fears are exaggerated but it's hardly a panicked step. For the effort of making a single request, they've reduced the chances of being bit in the ass by something they wrote here from n%, whatever n turns out to be, to about 0%. "n" doesn't have to be very high for it to be worth it.
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asthmatic camel wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:25 am...the BB forum style is old hat.
I agree with this, but I also think it's a shame. The forum style seems much better to me than the ephemeral style of Facebook, Twitter, and other platforms. I suppose there's the faint possibility that BB forums may see a resurgence - if and when people tire of the intrusion of their privacy on those other platforms - but I'm not holding my breath.

In any case, I don't like the more heavily populated platforms such as Reddit, and even some busy BB forums - it's like trying to drink from a waterfall.

We could use some new blood though: once the number of posters falls below a certain threshold, a forum is in danger of dying, and I think we're now precariously close to that threshold.
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ceptimus wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:10 pm
asthmatic camel wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:25 am...the BB forum style is old hat.
I agree with this, but I also think it's a shame. The forum style seems much better to me than the ephemeral style of Facebook, Twitter, and other platforms. I suppose there's the faint possibility that BB forums may see a resurgence - if and when people tire of the intrusion of their privacy on those other platforms - but I'm not holding my breath.

In any case, I don't like the more heavily populated platforms such as Reddit, and even some busy BB forums - it's like trying to drink from a waterfall.

We could use some new blood though: once the number of posters falls below a certain threshold, a forum is in danger of dying, and I think we're now precariously close to that threshold.
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Hotarubi wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:36 pm What you need is a bullheaded, take-no-prisoners, asshole newbie who is the best at everything and always right to drain the swamp to bring in a new paradigm.
Sounds like you just nominated yourself for the job. :dothewave: You got my vote.
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xouper wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:03 pm
Hotarubi wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:36 pm What you need is a bullheaded, take-no-prisoners, asshole newbie who is the best at everything and always right to drain the swamp to bring in a new paradigm.
Sounds like you just nominated yourself for the job. :dothewave: You got my vote.
You've got a sense of humor after all. I'm glad of that.

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asthmatic camel wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:25 am The forum was initially very busy but many left because they found it too rough a playground. Since then a few of the regulars have died and a few have decided to leave for personal reasons. You're the only relatively new face who's stayed with us for quite some time.
Yeah, I remember getting somewhat hazed when I showed up. :mrgreen:

asthmatic camel wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:25 am As for skepticism in general, it pretty much died when James Randi retired. I doubt we'll see many new members now: the BB forum style is old hat.
20+ years ago I contacted the French Libre pensée (Free Thought) asking for information on their activities and got a somewhat melancholic reply, that only old gentlemen remained there and that I had better look elsewhere. :|

Searching on the Web you get various groups enjoying monthly meetings in pubs (similar to the Philosophy Cafés) but nothing in my region (and there's Covid right now). When they publish something online it's alas definitely on the dreary side. Fora are rare, couldn't find anything worthwhile in French for example.

Not surprised that sites like Twitter have crushed the traditional forum, but being old school it feels to me like preferring fast food to a decent dish. Oh, well…
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There's bindeweede's skeps forum in the UK. It has about five active members. Orphia Nay, once a regular here, gave up running her Australian skeptics board due to constant bickering, and so it goes. The movement needs a charismatic figurehead to replace James Randi, (the million dollar challenge was a great publicity stunt), but there just isn't anyone who can cut it. Penn Jillette's OK but he's no James Randi.
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I have accounts on a dozen skeptic forums, and most of them have been ruined by the droning never ever ending woke skeptics, who would lynch Randi if he posted on one
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Getting increasingly tempted to join Corps and Abdul in enforced irrevocable exile, albeit for different reasons