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Doctor X wrote:Oh, I can understand the emotional attachment. People spend a lot of time reading, writing, socializing. Then things change.

This situation has a greater potential for emotional attachment since it involves subjects people feel very strongly about, AND it provided the opportunity to contribute in ways beyond simply "reading and writing."

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I have no idea if a serious reply will go anywhere, but my objection is to the fact that they've run off the young, enthustiastic folks.

Face it, for the most part, skeptics are grumpy old white men. Yes, there are female skeptics (heard a great talk by one last month), young skeptics, skeptics of other races (I am, after all, married to one) etc, but the predominant group is old white men.

In order to be effective, we need to diversify. A lot. Running off the young and enthusiastic is just * D * U * M * B *

Especially when it's over an issue wherein the identity of at least most of those run off is not the real issue, it's a question of some kind of "thou must conform".

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Remember xouper, this topic is not about you.

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jj: You didn't start it, but you've tried several times to finish it.

xouper: I take that as a retraction of your original claim that I had a huge part in creating it.

jj: You may not. The two statements are not mutually exclusive.
Sheesh. You say I didn't start it but that I had a huge part in creating it? Sounds to me like you contradict yourself. The words "create" and "start" mean the same thing.

The fact is, I came to the party long after the fire was well burning. I did not create the fire nor was the fire created in any way as a result of anything I did or did not do. If not for the JREF forum managment screw-up, there wouldn't be anything for me to pour oil on.

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jj wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Oh, I can understand the emotional attachment. People spend a lot of time reading, writing, socializing. Then things change.

This situation has a greater potential for emotional attachment since it involves subjects people feel very strongly about, AND it provided the opportunity to contribute in ways beyond simply "reading and writing."

--J.D.
I have no idea if a serious reply will go anywhere, but my objection is to the fact that they've run off the young, enthustiastic folks.

Face it, for the most part, skeptics are grumpy old white men. Yes, there are female skeptics (heard a great talk by one last month), young skeptics, skeptics of other races (I am, after all, married to one) etc, but the predominant group is old white men.

In order to be effective, we need to diversify. A lot. Running off the young and enthusiastic is just * D * U * M * B *

Especially when it's over an issue wherein the identity of at least most of those run off is not the real issue, it's a question of some kind of "thou must conform".
Shall I pass you another can of oil to pour on the fire? :lol: :lol:

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xouper wrote:Sheesh. You say I didn't start it but that I had a huge part in creating it? Sounds to me like you contradict yourself. The words "create" and "start" mean the same thing.

The fact is, I came to the party long after the fire was well burning. I did not create the fire nor was the fire created in any way as a result of anything I did or did not do. If not for the JREF forum managment screw-up, there wouldn't be anything for me to pour oil on.
I think we're quibbling over semantics. That which is created is the whole of it, and in that, and in how big it all grew, you had a large part, at least by my estimation. Hardly the only part, we could certainly win by naming some others, eh, but a large part.

No, you didn't start it. You just threw on the gasoline, the match, and then poured LOX over the conflageration. But no, you didn't start it.

Look, I'm not trying to be insulting, I'm telling you what I think I saw.

The fact I say this about you, of course, does not make you the only culprit.

Whoever it was said that they still don't understand the net nailed it.

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xouper wrote:
jj wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Oh, I can understand the emotional attachment. People spend a lot of time reading, writing, socializing. Then things change.

This situation has a greater potential for emotional attachment since it involves subjects people feel very strongly about, AND it provided the opportunity to contribute in ways beyond simply "reading and writing."

--J.D.
I have no idea if a serious reply will go anywhere, but my objection is to the fact that they've run off the young, enthustiastic folks.

Face it, for the most part, skeptics are grumpy old white men. Yes, there are female skeptics (heard a great talk by one last month), young skeptics, skeptics of other races (I am, after all, married to one) etc, but the predominant group is old white men.

In order to be effective, we need to diversify. A lot. Running off the young and enthusiastic is just * D * U * M * B *

Especially when it's over an issue wherein the identity of at least most of those run off is not the real issue, it's a question of some kind of "thou must conform".
Shall I pass you another can of oil to pour on the fire? :lol: :lol:
Well, it's not intentionally inflamatory and it certainly describes how I evaluate the situation.

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How peculiar. . . .

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jj: ... Running off the young and enthusiastic is just * D * U * M * B *

... it's a question of some kind of "thou must conform".

xouper: Shall I pass you another can of oil to pour on the fire? :lol: :lol:

jj: Well, it's not intentionally inflamatory and it certainly describes how I evaluate the situation.
I see. :roll:

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jj: No, you didn't start it. You just threw on the gasoline, the match, and then poured LOX over the conflageration. But no, you didn't start it.
I quite think you're getting the hang of this hyperbole thing.

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Xouper started the fire? Xouper argued with that the censorship inposed was illogical and often counter-productive. How many people actually tried to refute his arguments. The majority of the responses lacked a counter argument and he got a number of "well if you don't like it you don't have to post" responses. They continued even after he stated clearly why he wasn't going to leave it, even if he didn't love it.

You can accuse xouper of showing his frustration when he had to deal with so many useless responses. But I find it hard to fault him for that when so many others get exasperated in similar situations.

But if you are looking for fire starters, look at the number of people who joined the topic with nothing other than love it or leave it, or posted only a "your wrong" with nothing behind it. To pretend that one side is responsible for the atmosphere surrounding admin threads is ridiculous. A mob with pitch forks and torches shouldn't blame others for the fire.

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xouper wrote:
jj: ... Running off the young and enthusiastic is just * D * U * M * B *

... it's a question of some kind of "thou must conform".

xouper: Shall I pass you another can of oil to pour on the fire? :lol: :lol:

jj: Well, it's not intentionally inflamatory and it certainly describes how I evaluate the situation.
I see. :roll:
I don't think you've quite seen me pour hexane on the fire, Xouper, I don't. Not likely to, either, I'm too good at it when I do get around to it.

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xouper wrote:
jj: No, you didn't start it. You just threw on the gasoline, the match, and then poured LOX over the conflageration. But no, you didn't start it.
I quite think you're getting the hang of this hyperbole thing.
It's a simile...

Like it or not, that's how I see it.

Also, like I said, you had help.

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Walter_Wayne wrote:Xouper started the fire?
I presume that's directed at someone who holds that position, not I?

Or do people just read the propaganda put out by others and accept it as what I said?

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Walter_Wayne wrote:Xouper started the fire? Xouper argued with that the censorship inposed was illogical and often counter-productive.
So . . . whom should we blame instead? Hal?

Clinton?

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P.S. It is an understandable "blame the victim" attitude taken by Sycophants in the hope they will not become victims one day.
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Doctor X wrote:[P.S. It is an understandable "blame the victim" attitude taken by Sycophants in the hope they will not become victims one day.
Doctor X's daffynition of "Sycophant": Someone who dares to disagree with his ex-cathedra position.

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. . . that and Sycophants who hope to become Moderators THERE one day. . . .

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Doctor X wrote:. . . that and Sycophants who hope to become Moderators THERE one day. . . .

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Who would that be? I know somebody who's turned the job down.

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jj wrote:
Who would that be? I know somebody who's turned the job down.
Considering current circumstances, I thought it the right thing to do.

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CHARLEY_BIGTIME wrote:
jj wrote:
Who would that be? I know somebody who's turned the job down.
Considering current circumstances, I thought it the right thing to do.
So you still have principals? You mean you do not go from forum to forum denouncing and supporting them in turn to curry sympathy and favor? There may be hope for you yet, Charles.

However, about the goat. . . .

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