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Anybody heard of Landmark Education?

I had just heard about it, but it seems to be a well established, cult-like, "self help" program. Wow.

I'll do some research on the web and see what I can find....
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From the Skeptic's Dictionary:
http://skepdic.com/landmark.html
Landmark Forum is a large group awareness training program in which up to 150 people take a seminar together aimed at helping them realize their true potential.
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LEC is aimed at New Age explorers of the 1990s, not the Flower Children from the 60s and 70s who were attracted to est. The search for "It", which characterized est, is out. Also out is the Zen master approach of est, which was often abusive, profane, demeaning and authoritarian. The Forum is apparently just as authoritarian as est but not as profane or abusive.

LEC aims to help people transform their lives by teaching them specific communication and life skills along with some heavy philosophical training.
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It really workds! :)

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Why waste time? I suppose I'll find out soon enough if it's unwarranted.
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eh going by wikipedia contiversal to say the least

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Geni wrote:eh going by wikipedia contiversal to say the least
You know, the descriptions of a Landmark "training course" from both the site and a co-worker's first-hand experience, it would be.

One thing I just thought about, Landmark's large group awareness training shares a lot of similarity to what I've seen of Amway's practices.
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specious_reasons wrote:Anybody heard of Landmark Education?
Actually, I have heard of them. I looked into them a while ago during some topic or other. Can't remember what for.
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the way i see it there are very few types of scams, just a lot of theme variation applied to the same old bullshit.

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an hero wrote:the way i see it there are very few types of scams, just a lot of theme variation applied to the same old bullshit.
Yeah, basically, this Landmark has a lot in common with some religous practices and Amway.

I have to wonder if I've been exposed to this - one time my wife and I went to a "Buyer's Club" - which seemed like it might be a good idea, but I had to commit (with a large cash payment) before I left their presentation. Well, I told them if I had to make the decision right then and there, the answer is "no." Mrs. Reasons was a bit angry with me - it was her idea to go to this.

I don't think it was either a cult-like thing or a scam, but I felt the same types of pressures.
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specious_reasons wrote:
an hero wrote:the way i see it there are very few types of scams, just a lot of theme variation applied to the same old bullshit.
Yeah, basically, this Landmark has a lot in common with some religous practices and Amway.

I have to wonder if I've been exposed to this - one time my wife and I went to a "Buyer's Club" - which seemed like it might be a good idea, but I had to commit (with a large cash payment) before I left their presentation. Well, I told them if I had to make the decision right then and there, the answer is "no." Mrs. Reasons was a bit angry with me - it was her idea to go to this.

I don't think it was either a cult-like thing or a scam, but I felt the same types of pressures.
yeah theres a 'direct buy' club here thats basically a scam, sounds similar. a guy i worked with talked a whole lot about how its a total scam and all the skeevy stuff his boss did to get people to sign up for direct buy. he said his boss was in small claims court most days of the week, heh.

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an hero wrote: yeah theres a 'direct buy' club here thats basically a scam, sounds similar. a guy i worked with talked a whole lot about how its a total scam and all the skeevy stuff his boss did to get people to sign up for direct buy. he said his boss was in small claims court most days of the week, heh.
I did a search on "direct buy" and it that company sure reads like what I experienced. Used to be called "UCC Total Home" when we went. Glad I said "no," and I didn't even count myself a skeptic at the time.
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