Anti-vaxxers in power

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by ed » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:56 pm

I apologize but I don't get the reference. Could someone explain?
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Pyrrho » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:46 pm

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:59 am

I think this is the relevant bit:

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by shemp » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:50 am

Removal of their children and forced sterilization is too good for these imbeciles. Work them to death in the salt mines!
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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This is simply child abuse.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by ed » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:49 pm

Anaxagoras wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:59 am
I think this is the relevant bit:

Is that like damning with faint praise?

Sorry, almost completely opaque.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:14 am

Despite parents' best efforts, boy survives to adulthood:

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2019/02/t ... of-others/
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Witness » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:15 am

Facebook is thinking about removing anti-vaccination content as backlash intensifies over the spread of misinformation on the social network
  • Facebook said in a statement Thursday that it may remove, reduce, and demote anti-vaccination content on the platform in an effort to combat the spread of false information.
  • As an outbreak of measles spreads across the US, advertisements promoted by anti-vaccination organization have been targeting pregnant women on Facebook.
  • At the same time, posts are frequently shared within various Facebook Groups discouraging people from vaccinating their children.
  • Facebook said it is "thinking through what the right approach for this effort might look like" in a statement to Business Insider.
https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... &r=US&IR=T

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Post by xouper » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:23 pm

Witness wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:15 am
Facebook is thinking about removing anti-vaccination content as backlash intensifies over the spread of misinformation on the social network
  • Facebook said in a statement Thursday that it may remove, reduce, and demote anti-vaccination content on the platform in an effort to combat the spread of false information.
  • As an outbreak of measles spreads across the US, advertisements promoted by anti-vaccination organization have been targeting pregnant women on Facebook.
  • At the same time, posts are frequently shared within various Facebook Groups discouraging people from vaccinating their children.
  • Facebook said it is "thinking through what the right approach for this effort might look like" in a statement to Business Insider.
https://www.businessinsider.com/faceboo ... &r=US&IR=T
Next up, Facebook will be censoring any dissent about global warming. Or any dissent about evolution. Or any dissent about intersectional identity politics.

Not a good precedent to set. Facebook should not be an authoritarian arbiter of what is "true".

I understand that the First Amendment does not apply to private companies. Nonetheless it is a bad precedent for large and powerful companies to be anti-free-speech.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by sparks » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:04 pm

Agreed. Let these foolz spread the nonsense and then watch natural selection in progress.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by gnome » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:33 pm

Unfortunately "natural selection" has collateral damage.

Just the same, as evidenced by my presence at this forum's founding, my preference for places like Facebook is that they avoid blocking content unless it is literally illegal or violates privacy, similar to the standards we have here. Instead, I would have them make sure the block functions work well, possibly provide an option to search any post against fact checking sites, but most importantly--I think they would get a lot of mileage looking at how they decide what content to promote based on user behavior. I think this very mechanic is one of the primary promoters of inflammatory content, and it is their product's own features that are causing it. Look what happens when you start posting political things--their software matches you to all kinds of content that "matches" and tries to get your attention with it. It definitely creates an echo chamber of sorts, and not one of the user's choosing. They should address that instead of policing users for accuracy.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Witness » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:22 am

Addendum:
Measles spreads at Osaka site; infected woman used Shinkansen

OSAKA--Health officials have issued measles warnings to anyone who shopped at a commercial complex here, particularly for Valentine’s Day gifts, or used specific bullet trains connecting Osaka and Tokyo earlier this month.

A public health center in Osaka said Feb. 14 that a staff worker and six customers were infected with measles at the Abeno Harukas commercial complex, bringing to 16 the number of confirmed cases there.

Earlier this month, nine workers at a Valentine’s Day fair venue on the ninth floor of the complex’s wing tower were confirmed infected with measles. The latest announcement is the first to list customers.

The six customers are in their teens to 30s and visited the complex on Jan. 26 or 27.
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Also on Feb. 14, the Osaka prefectural government said a woman in her 40s who traveled between Tokyo and Shin-Osaka stations on the Tokaido Shinkansen Line on Feb. 8 and 10 was infected with measles.

The Osaka woman developed a fever on Feb. 6 and rashes broke out on her body on Feb. 9, according to the prefecture’s medical division. The disease was confirmed on Feb. 13.
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The number of confirmed measles cases in Osaka Prefecture this year was 46 as of Feb. 12, more than triple the figure for all of 2018.
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201902150031.html

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by sparks » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:05 pm

What madness.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Witness » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:16 am

More than 900 dead in Madagascar measles epidemic

Geneva: At least 922 people have died in a measles outbreak in Madagascar, the majority of them children, the World Health Organisation said on Friday.

Since the beginning of the outbreak in September, more than 66,000 people in the African island nation have been infected with the highly contagious virus, the WHO said.

Measles is easily preventable through vaccination. The WHO has launched a campaign in collaboration with local authorities to vaccinate more than 6 million children in Madagascar.

The campaign also includes efforts to educate the population and counter negative perceptions about vaccinations.
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There were 229,000 reported measles cases worldwide in 2018 - double the number of the previous year, according to preliminary WHO figures. WHO experts say the actual number of cases is likely to be many times higher.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/africa/mor ... 50y96.html

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:00 pm

Russian trolls blamed for spreading anti-vaccination propaganda
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The same Russian social media trolls accused of meddling in the 2016 US election may be to blame for the deadly measles outbreak across Europe last year, according to a new report.

Scientists believe the St. Petersburg troll farm also pumped out anti-vaccination propaganda,

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136 people dead, 8,400 others sick in Philippines measles outbreak: Health secretary

MANILA, Philippines — The Philippine health secretary said Monday that 136 people, mostly children, have died of measles and 8,400 others have fallen ill in an outbreak blamed partly on vaccination fears.

A massive immunization drive that started last week in hard-hit Manila and four provincial regions may contain the outbreak by April, Health Secretary Francisco Duque III said. President Rodrigo Duterte warned in a TV message Friday of fatal complications and urged children to be immunized.

“No ifs, no buts, no conditions, you just have to bring your children and trust that the vaccines … will save your children,” Duque said by telephone. “That’s the absolute answer to this outbreak.”

Infections spiked by more than 1,000% in metropolitan Manila, the densely packed capital of more than 12 million people, in January compared to last year, health officials said.

About half of the 136 who died were children aged 1 to 4 and many of those who perished were not inoculated, the officials said.

Duque said a government information drive was helping restore public trust in the government’s immunization program, which was marred in 2017 by controversy over an anti-dengue vaccine made by French drugmaker Sanofi Pasteur which some officials linked to the deaths of at least three children.

The Philippine government halted the anti-dengue immunization drive after Sanofi said a study showed the vaccine may increase the risks of severe dengue infections. More than 830,000 children were injected with the Dengvaxia vaccine under the campaign, which was launched in 2016 under then-President Benigno Aquino III. The campaign continued under Duterte until it was stopped in 2017.

Sanofi officials told Philippine congressional hearings that the Dengvaxia vaccine was safe and effective and would reduce dengue infections if the vaccination drive continued.

“It seems the faith has come back,” Duque said of public trust on the government’s immunization drive, citing the inoculation of about 130,000 of 450,000 people targeted for anti-measles vaccinations in metropolitan Manila in just a week.
https://vancouversun.com/health/136-peo ... 4674eafb54

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