Anti-vaxxers in power

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by sparks » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:16 am

"Only possibly end in disaster."

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ. :)

What a cunt.
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Post by Witness » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:54 am

'There are no words': Samoa buries its children as measles outbreak worsens

In six weeks, a measles outbreak has infected 3,000 people out of a population of 200,000, killing 42, mostly children

Samoa, which is 4,300km east of Sydney and graduated to developing country status in 2014, is known to most people outside it as a peaceful, tropical holiday destination. But over the last six weeks, the country has been gripped by a devastating measles outbreak. There have been more than 3,000 confirmed cases in a country of just 200,000 people and 42 people have died, 38 of them children under four.
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The world’s most infectious disease has spread throughout much of the developed world this year, and while some countries have suffered devastating losses as a result, developed countries have seen comparatively little loss of human life. New Zealand recently suffered its worst epidemic in 20 years – 2,000 people were infected, none died.

Samoa has a huge diaspora community in New Zealand making it inevitable that measles would eventually reach Samoan shores. When it arrived, it reached a population with devastatingly low vaccination rates and a health service ill-equipped to meet the challenge of such an epidemic.

Samoa’s total population immunity has been estimated by the WHO to be as low as 30-40%, compared with its Pacific neighbours, such as Tonga and American Samoa, which boast immunisation rates of over 90%, close to or matching recommended rates for achieving immunity.

The immunisation rates of babies have plummeted in recent years. Four years ago, roughly 85% of one-year-olds were vaccinated, in 2017 that dropped to 60%.

But since then the rate plummeted sharply, after a scandal that rocked Samoa in 2018, when two Samoan nurses administered MMR vaccines to babies who subsequently died. The nurses pleaded guilty to negligence causing manslaughter and were sentenced to five years in prison after it emerged that one of the nurses mixed the MMR vaccine powder with expired muscle relaxant anaesthetic instead of water for injection.

People lost trust in the government and in immunisation programs, meaning that by 2018, only 31% of children under five had been vaccinated.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by sparks » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:47 pm

And very soon now, that will catch up with the goddamned fucking governments kids. Then the shit will hit the fan. goddamned idiot motherfuckers.

Eh, what the fuck. This little experiment has gone South anyway. Let it all end 'orribly and with a mighty wind, and much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

No worries. Doctor_X will take care of the kidz. :) Several hours apiece in a slow oven I should think. :) :)
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Post by shemp » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:42 pm

Gonna take longer than that at 30 min./lb.
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Post by sparks » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:06 pm

Just depends on how big they are, and how they're ... prepared. Done Southern style (50 gallons of 10W-30 over several 30,000 btu propane cookers) would take less time than that. Alternately, there are several recipes for 'Pulled Long Pork' in the Jeffrey Dahmer "How I Did It" cookbook. :shock: :shock:
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Post by shemp » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:50 pm

I'm sure marbling is also a factor.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by robinson » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:35 pm

I don't get the fear and loathing over people who are absolutely against vaccines.
You never know what's going to happen, then some shit happens nobody saw coming, then later somebody says they knew it was coming, then some new shit happens nobody saw coming, rinse and repeat

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Post by robinson » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:35 pm

Jesus fuck, just give em all smallpox and sit back and watch evolution at work
You never know what's going to happen, then some shit happens nobody saw coming, then later somebody says they knew it was coming, then some new shit happens nobody saw coming, rinse and repeat

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Rob Lister » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:26 pm

I don't have fear or loathing but I do have a certain degree of disdain for those that don't get their kids vaccinated. Herd immunity is important for those that can't get vaccinated, so there's a little loathing going on, I suppose.

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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:46 am

robinson wrote:
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I don't get the fear and loathing over people who are absolutely against vaccines.
Because they're idiots who are responsible for spreading disease. And misinformation.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:47 am

Samoa measles outbreak: Five more die in measles-ravaged Samoa
Dec 04 2019

Five people have died overnight in Samoa, bringing the death toll to 60 as the measles epidemic continues to kill the most vulnerable.

Of the 60 that have died, 54 were children under the age of 15, while 25 were babies aged less than one year old. Three deaths have now been recorded for adults over the age of 19.

In the last 24 hours a further 171 cases have also been confirmed by the Ministry of Health.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:05 am

This may explain why the vaccination rate in Samoa plummeted in recent years:

Measles outbreak spurred by anti-vaxxers shuts down Samoan government
The government of Samoa will shut down for two days this week while officials try to curb a deadly measles outbreak that has sickened 3,728 and killed 53—48 of whom were children ages 0 to 4 years old.
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In response, officials there have closed schools, barred children from public gatherings, and begun an intensive vaccination campaign. Since November, the government has reported vaccinating over 58,000 people.

But officials have their work cut out for them. The World Health Organization and UNICEF estimated that Samoa’s measles vaccination rate for infants was just 31% in 2018. That’s down from about 60% to 70% in earlier years and a high of 90% in 2013.

The drop may be partly explained by the tragic deaths of two infants in July 2018, according to the WHO. The infants died on the same day at the same hospital, shortly after they had each received what was supposed to be an MMR vaccine (which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella).

While some quickly blamed the vaccine itself, officials later determined that two nurses had improperly prepared the immunizations. Investigators found that they had mixed in a lethal dose of muscle relaxant, and one of the nurses tried to cover up the error by taking the empty bottle of the muscle relaxant home after retrieving it from the garbage. The two faced charges of manslaughter and were both sentenced to five years in prison in August of this year.

Still, news of the heartbreaking deaths shook the island nation’s confidence in the healthcare system. And anti-vaccination groups pounced on the circumstances. Most notably, the deaths were picked up by the Children’s Health Defense, run by the prominent anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As The Washington Post noted, Kennedy’s organization spent months highlighting the deaths on Facebook while questioning the safety of the MMR vaccines. But the organization did not correct the posts or update its audience with information regarding the nurses’ error and convictions.

Kennedy visited Samoa in June, appearing alongside local anti-vaccine advocates and even a staff member of the US embassy. In November, Kennedy’s organization sent a letter to the Samoan prime minister, encouraging officials to question the MMR vaccine. Kennedy peddles the false and dangerous claim that vaccines are linked to autism, despite the fact that numerous scientific studies have robustly debunked the baseless claim.

On Sunday, Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi encouraged residents to fight back against misinformation. “Let us work together to encourage and convince those that do not believe that vaccinations are the only answer to the epidemic,” he said.
I wonder why it was left to nurses to "prepare" the vaccines in 2018? I thought they came in pre-filled syringes direct from the factory??
Having nurses prepare them manually introduces the possibility of human error (or even intentional maliciousness).
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Witness » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:46 am

Rob Lister wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:26 pm
Herd immunity is important for those that can't get vaccinated, so there's a little loathing going on, I suppose.
There's that. But consider also the possibility of once and for all getting rid of some contagious horror. (As we did with smallpox.) A worthy goal. :|

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Post by sparks » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am

Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? Or is there a source of virus either in some other population of animals or in some inactive mode ... (is that even possible with smallpox???) just waiting for some unvaccinated fools to come along and get close to it?
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Post by Fid » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 pm

sparks wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am
Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? ....
No it hasn't but it's contained in two places (that we know of). One is about a half mile as the virus flies from me the other is somewhere in Russia. And there does not seem to be a wild reservoir the same is the case for measles. But given the propensity of virus to mutate and sheer human cussedness that could change.

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Post by Rob Lister » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:04 pm

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sparks wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am
Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? Or is there a source of virus either in some other population of animals or in some inactive mode ... (is that even possible with smallpox???) just waiting for some unvaccinated fools to come along and get close to it?
As Fid said, it's kept in military gubment labs (US & Russia), in case the radioactive fallout isn't enough to wipe us out:
The last cases of smallpox occurred in an outbreak of two cases, one of which was fatal, in Birmingham, United Kingdom, in 1978. A medical photographer, Janet Parker, contracted the disease at the University of Birmingham Medical School and died on September 11, 1978.[1] In light of this incident, all known stocks of the smallpox virus were destroyed or transferred to one of two World Health Organization reference laboratories which had BSL-4 facilities—the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the United States and the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology VECTOR in Koltsovo, Russia.[2] Since 1984, these two labs have been the only ones authorized by the WHO to hold stocks of live smallpox virus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_ ... ion_debate
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Post by Witness » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:10 pm

WHO, CDC data shows measles cases up 30 percent globally

The disease killed more than 140,000 people worldwide in 2018, despite the availability of a vaccine.

Although 2018 was a relatively quiet year for the disease in the U.S. -- with just 372 confirmed cases -- nearly 9.8 million people were diagnosed with measles globally, and more than 140,000 died from it, despite availability of a vaccine.

And this year, the disease has been far more prevalent in the U.S., with more than 1,200 cases to date -- the highest total in more than 25 years.

Both the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted the importance of vaccination Thursday as they released their final measles surveillance figures for 2018.

"That anyone should die from measles -- against which a safe, effective and affordable vaccine has existed for over 50 years -- is a collective failure which must be addressed," Katrina Kretsinger, WHO medical officer for measles, told UPI.

According to the WHO and CDC, measles cases surged globally in 2018 due to a series of "devastating outbreaks in all regions."

In all, there were 9.7 million estimated measles cases and 142,300 related deaths worldwide in 2018. Although this figure is down significantly from the more than 28 million cases reported in 2000, the first year the WHO started recording measles data, it shows an approximately 30 percent increase year-to-year from 2017, when there were an estimated 7.6 million cases and 124,000 deaths.

Southeast Asia had the highest share of measles cases and deaths, with more than 3.8 million and 39,000, respectively. However, Europe also had more than 850,000 cases as well, due in large part to declines in vaccination rates in countries such as France, Greece and the Britain.
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/12 ... 575562512/

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Post by Witness » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:53 am

Malaysian Infant Diagnosed With Polio, Becoming The First Case In 27 Years

A 3-month-old infant from Malaysia has been diagnosed with polio, becoming the first case in the nation in 27 years.

According to media reports, the baby boy from Borneo island tested positive for the viral illness on 6 December, Friday after being admitted to the hospital with a fever and muscle weakness.

Director-General of Health Datuk Dr. Noor Hisham Abdullah said in a statement that the boy – despite being in a stable condition and contained in an isolation ward – still requires assistance to breathe.

According to test results, the infant’s virus shares genetic links with the recent polio outbreak in the Philippines.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/malaysian-inf ... 48501.html