What's killing us this week?

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Anaxagoras wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:20 am I wonder if it's worse that a typical flu virus. Just how concerned should we really be about it?
The new coronavirus appears to cause symptoms like fever, cough, difficulty breathing, and other respiratory symptoms. It causes severe illness in around a quarter of cases, and can be deadly. Public health officials are working to understand how dangerous this virus is, how fast it’s spreading, and how to contain it. As that work continues, the virus is causing anxiety around the world.
I guess that means they're still trying to determine that. I know there have been deaths from this, but lots of people die every year from the flu too.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/24/2108 ... cdc-spread

My question as well.

I’m not usually too worried about these things. But I just read that China is trying to quarantine something like 40 million people in the Wuhan region. WTF? That sounds kind of serious. (Ha. Ha.)

This comes of course right in the middle of final exams and, even worse, entrance exam season where I’m supposed to walk all around among these coughing disease vectors, university revenue generators applicants.

Also, I’d sort of like to get on a plane when it’s all done.

Just the “media” pumping another “Summer of the Shark” type of story or is it really serious, stay away from airports at all costs?

If I suddenly stop posting, I guess we’ll know it was serious after all. Ha. Ha.

By the way, the Olympics are coming to Japan this summer. Ha. Ha.


ETA: This article now says 56 million in quarantine.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10817933/ ... own-china/
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shuize wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:19 pm ETA: This article now says 56 million in quarantine.
Piffle, they already quarantined ~ 1 million Uyghurs till they become good little Hans just as warm up; and I wouldn't be astonished if Xi found it a useful test for very different scenarios…
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I read that the Chinese were monitoring people with thermal imaging in airports and detaining those who had an elevated temperature. Good thing I won't be traveling in China. I'm always hot and so is my son. When we were at the Boston Science Museum, our skin glowed white on the thermal imaging camera, even our eyes and fingertips, and we weren't even sick. In China, we would be chucked into a flu pit.
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Experts debunk fringe theory linking China’s coronavirus to weapons research
As China attempts to contain the spread of a new coronavirus that has left more than 100 people dead, rumors and disinformation have spread amid the scramble for answers.

Some of the speculation has centered on a virology institute in Wuhan, the city where the outbreak began. One fringe theory holds that the disaster could be the accidental result of biological weapons research.

But in conversations with The Washington Post, experts rejected the idea that the virus could be man-made.
“Based on the virus genome and properties there is no indication whatsoever that it was an engineered virus,” said Richard Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University.

Tim Trevan, a biological safety expert based in Maryland, said most countries had largely abandoned their bioweapons research after years of work proved fruitless.

“The vast majority of new, nasty diseases ... come from nature,” he said.

The British newspaper Daily Mail was among the first to suggest the possibility of a link between the newly spreading virus and the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, reporting last week that the lab, which opened in 2014 and is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, had been the subject of safety concerns in the past.

A separate article published by the Washington Times, a conservative newspaper in Washington, took the theories a step further, suggesting in a headline that the “Coronavirus may have originated in lab linked to China’s biowarfare program” and pointing to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The article cited research by Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer, who told The Post he did not want to comment further.

Despite little public evidence, the theory has spread widely on social media, to conspiracy theory websites and in some international news outlets.

The Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory is a “Cellular Level Biosafety Level 4” facility, which means it has a high level of operational security and is authorized to work on dangerous pathogens, including Ebola.

Those entering the level 4 lab use airlocks and protective suits. Waste, and even air, is heavily filtered and cleaned before leaving the facility.

Milton Leitenberg, an expert on chemical weapons at the University of Maryland, said he and other analysts around the world had discussed the possibility that weapons development at the Wuhan lab could have led to the coronavirus outbreak in a private email chain but that no one had found convincing evidence to support the theory.

“Of course, if they are doing bioweaponry, it is covert,” Leitenberg said in a phone call, but added it was unlikely the Chinese government would use such a facility for production or even research and development of bioweapons.

The Wuhan lab is well-known and it is relatively open compared with other Chinese institutes: It has strong ties to the Galveston National Laboratory at the University of Texas Medical Branch and was developed with the aid of French engineers.

“Wuhan Institute of Virology is a world-class research institution that does world-class research in virology and immunology,” Ebright said, noting that one specialty of the facility was researching coronaviruses transmitted by bats.

Trevan, who was quoted in a 2017 article in Nature that warned of possible risks at the Wuhan facility that was cited by the Daily Mail, said in a phone call to The Post that he was concerned at the time about how to “manage risk in these complex systems when you cannot predict all the ways in which the system could fail.”

A former British diplomat and political adviser to the United Nations, he said he had not followed affairs at the facility closely since 2017 and was not aware of any specific problems there, but that he doubted the coronavirus outbreak could have come from a weapons program.

An annual State Department report released last year said China had engaged “in biological activities with potential dual-use applications.”

Elsa Kania, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security, said that while Chinese officials had expressed public interest in the potential weaponization of biotechnology, a coronavirus would not be a useful weapon.

“Hypothetically, a bioweapon would be designed to be highly targeted in its effects, whereas since its outbreak the coronavirus is already on track to become widespread in China and worldwide,” she said.

Vipin Narang, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, wrote in a message on Twitter that a good bioweapon “in theory has high lethality but low, not [high], communicability” and that spreading such ideas would be “incredibly irresponsible.”
After the 2014 Ebola outbreak, fringe news outlets suggested spuriously that the U.S. Department of Defense had manufactured the virus. In the Soviet Union, military labs did look into whether the virus could be used as a weapon but ultimately abandoned those hopes.

The speculation may be linked to uncertainty over where the ongoing novel coronavirus outbreak originated. Some scientists initially suspected a seafood market in Wuhan may have been the starting point, but a study by Chinese researchers and published in the Lancet on Friday questioned that analysis.

Late Tuesday, Hu Xijin, editor of the nationalistic Global Times newspaper, wrote that a conspiracy theory had emerged in China that the United States was responsible for the outbreak. “Their logic: Why always China?” Hu wrote on Twitter. “But most Chinese don’t believe it.”
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A deadly virus is spreading from state to state and has infected 15 million Americans so far. It's influenza

The novel coronavirus that's sickening thousands globally -- and at least five people in the US -- is inspiring countries to close their borders and Americans to buy up surgical masks quicker than major retailers can restock them.
There's another virus that has infected 15 million Americans across the country and killed more than 8,200 people this season alone. It's not a new pandemic -- it's influenza.
The 2019-2020 flu season is projected to be one of the worst in a decade, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. At least 140,000 people have been hospitalized with complications from the flu, and that number is predicted to climb as flu activity swirls.

The flu is a constant in Americans' lives. It's that familiarity that makes it more dangerous to underestimate, said Dr. Margot Savoy, chair of Family and Community Medicine at Temple University's Lewis Katz School of Medicine.
"Lumping all the viral illness we tend to catch in the winter sometimes makes us too comfortable thinking everything is 'just a bad cold,'" she said. "We underestimate how deadly influenza really is."
Even the low-end estimate of deaths each year is startling, Savoy said: The Centers for Disease Control predicts at least 12,000 people will die from the flu in the US every year. In the 2017-2018 flu season, as many as 61,000 people died, and 45 million were sickened.
In the 2019-2020 season so far, 15 million people in the US have gotten the flu and 8,200 people have died from it, including at least 54 children. Flu activity has been elevated for 11 weeks straight, the CDC reported, and will likely continue for the next several weeks.
Savoy, who also serves on the American Academy of Family Physician's board of directors, said the novelty of emerging infections can overshadow the flu. People are less panicked about the flu because healthcare providers "appear to have control" over the infection.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/heal ... index.html
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But at least they didn't catch TEH AUTIZM!!!
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Terrifying, isn't it?
Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.
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Coronavirus: Pish-posh, experts say to AYUSH homeopathy push as epidemic reaches India

Experts have called out the government for pushing homeopathy as a possible preventive treatment option for coronavirus infections. There's no scientific evidence for the efficacy of homeopathic treatment.

The government is drawing flak for pushing homeopathy as a possible preventive treatment option for coronavirus infections -- which have killed 170 people in China -- and says its advisory was only a preventive measure. India reported its first confirmed infection on Thursday.

Although popular, homeopathy is based on ideas that fly in the face of scientific wisdom, such as its "minimum dose" assumption that diluting a medicine's active ingredient increases its efficiency, or its "water memory" hypothesis. Benefits, if any, are attributed to a placebo effect, and there is evidence that homeopathic treatment can be dangerous.

But India's Ministry of AYUSH, set up in November 2014 and given a 15 per cent funding hike last year, claims homeopathy is a "a time tested therapy". AYUSH is an acronym for Ayurveda, Yoga and Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha, Sowa Rigpa and Homoeopathy.

On January 29, 2020, the Ministry of AYUSH published an advisory in five languages prescribing coronavirus prevention and symptom management methods based on ayurveda, homeopathy and unani.

The Indian Medical Association considers practitioners of ayurveda, unani and homeopathy who are not licensed to practice modern medicine to be quacks.
https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story ... 2020-01-30

I'm sure cow urine will stomp out the virus. :roll:
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WHO gotta cover all bases.

It's about preventing disease, not being all judgmental.
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So, unprotected sex with dead wild or farm animals is OK?
Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.
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asthmatic camel wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:32 pm So, unprotected sex with dead wild or farm animals is OK?
The folks at WHO are rather naive about such matters. :cowbell:
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And what about unprotected sex with pets, both living and dead? Does that get the WHO seal of approval, too?

And fish. I mean is it OK to have unprotected sex with a dead mackerel or not? Or a live one, come to that.

And birds. You know, is unprotected sex with live or dead penguins a no-no?

These things matter.
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Shit happens. The older you get, the more often shit happens. So you have to try not to give a shit even when you do. Because, if you give too many shits, you've created your own shit creek and there's no way out other than swimming through the shit. Oh, and fuck.
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asthmatic camel wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:36 pm And what about unprotected sex with pets, both living and dead? Does that get the WHO seal of approval, too?
It's the one aspect of life they consider none of their business. :mrgreen:
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That was great AC. "When rancid becomes hilarious"
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Rob Lister wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:14 pm
UN Pleads for Help Amid 'Devastating' Locust Invasion
Pakistan declares national emergency over locust swarms

Prime Minister Imran Khan declared the emergency to protect crops and help farmers. The Pakistani government said it was the worst locust infestation in more than two decades.

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Pyrrho wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:43 pm Image
I dunno, smells shopped.
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shemp wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:16 am I dunno, smells shopped.
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The censored version. But of course the sex stuff is still implicit. :)
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