Anti-vaxxers in power

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by shemp » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:17 am

Anti-vax fuckwit is a fuckwit.
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Post by shemp » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:28 am

Karma's a bitch.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:36 am

I don't think I've ever been vaccinated for chicken pox. Instead, I had it as a child.

I was born in 1970; the vaccine was approved in the US in 1995, but I'd already had the pox itself by then.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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Anaxagoras wrote:
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I had it as a child.
Watch out:
Shingles is due to a reactivation of varicella zoster virus (VZV) within a person's body. The disease chickenpox is caused by the initial infection with VZV. Once chickenpox has resolved, the virus may remain inactive in nerve cells. When it reactivates, it travels from the nerve body to the endings in the skin, producing blisters. Risk factors for reactivation include old age, poor immune function, and having had chickenpox before 18 months of age.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by shemp » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:28 am

I've been on a waiting list for the new shingles vaccine for months.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:32 am

Is the shingles vaccine the same as the chickenpox vaccine? Since they're the same virus?

To the best of my memory I had the chickenpox around 4 or 5 years old, not less than 18 months.
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Post by shemp » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:39 am

I don't know. My wife had shingles on her lower torso a few years ago, and it was two months of hell for her. I too was about 5 when I had chickenpox, but I don't want to risk it.
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Post by Doctor X » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:54 am

Recently, the Food and Drug Administration approved Shingrix, a new shingles vaccine that contains a lone protein isolated from the shell of the varicella zoster virus.

This protein acts as an ID tag, enabling the immune system to recognize all future varicella zoster viruses it encounters.

The existing chickenpox vaccine, Zostavax, contains a whole, live virus, but weakened varicella zoster virus.

But live viruses, even weakened in a vaccine, can pose problems for people whose immune systems are weak due to age or disease.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:02 am

So if your immune system isn't weak, a regular chickenpox vaccine could provide the same protection against shingles, I assume.

ETA: after reading the article, I see that it is not the same protection, although it would offer some protection.
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Post by Doctor X » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:42 am

Probably not necessary since the virus is intracellular.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:23 am

FWIW, "faith adviser" to Donald Trump means window dressing for the yahoos.

It's not like Uri and Schmuley being "spritual advisers" to Michael Jackson.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
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widow dressing
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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Witness wrote:
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window dressing
And I'm here trying to learn some slang. :x
Sorry about that.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by shemp » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:29 am

But Jesus didn't get hit by a falling piano on the cross, so I guess that could still happen to this fucking shit-eating cunt her. Gives me something to hope for.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Anaxagoras » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:31 pm

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:48 pm

Chickenpox parties were common before the vaccine. The thinking was to get the inevitable over with early. Chickenpox in teens and adults is far worse and more dangerous.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:03 pm

What is the legal penalty for engaging in biological warfare against the general population.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers in power

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