## Anti-vaxxers in power

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Doubt that.
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Pesky bullies!
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The facts and evidences are not always pleasant things. Poor dear. Bless her heart.

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The depth of the Dumbth is dazzling.
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HARLEM VACCINE FORUM

Saturday, October 19th, 1:00- 3:30 p.m.
Assembly Hall at Riverside Church
91 Claremont Avenue, New York, NY

The Harlem Vaccine Forum is still on! Assembly Hall at Riverside Church is a lovely venue and convenient to public transportation. CHD is delighted to host this event!

Compulsory vaccination raises critical human rights issues, including the right to practice religion freely, parental rights, informed consent, the right to education and the right to health. The forum provides a way to discuss these pressing issues and New York State’s decision to repeal the religious exemption to vaccination.

Big Pharma is one of the largest supporters of mainstream media so we weren’t totally surprised Tuesday when they squashed the National Action Network event that didn’t support their agenda. But CHD will not be censored. We aren’t beholden to pharma or the media. CHD chose to move forward with the Forum because pharma corruption, perversion of government vaccine data and known vaccine injury risks to our children, especially African Americans, are too great to ignore.
“It is a grave warning sign for American democracy that the pharmaceutical industry is now so powerful that it can silence debate, even in the traditional heart of civil rights activism.” —Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
CHD won’t be silenced on the lack of vaccine safety. Forcing us to change the venue made the event all the more important, to show the national media that will be there that this is a human rights issue and one on which people will vote, change their state of residence, and fight for until they win.

Don’t miss this event as speakers discuss the pressing issues around vaccines and New York State’s unjustifiable decisions to repeal religious exemptions and to grossly curtail medical exemptions.

Speakers include: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.; Sheila Ealey; John Gilmore; Dr. Phil Valentine; Curtis Cost; Dr. Lawrence Palevsky; Reverend Walter Sotelo; Mary Holland; and many more.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news ... lth-forum/
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Measles virus 'wipes out immunity to other infections', scientists say

Measles can cause long-term damage to the immune system - resetting it to a baby-like state and leaving people vulnerable to other infections, scientists have said.

According to new research, the measles virus deletes part of the immune system's memory, removing previous immunity to other infections in both humans and ferrets.

Scientists have dubbed the startling findings "immune amnesia."

While the body is capable of rebuilding those defences, scientists say the process could take years.

With measles on the rise in the UK and in other countries across the world, Dr Michael Mina of Harvard's school of public health said "it should be a scary phenomenon".

Research from the Wellcome Sanger Institute, University of Amsterdam and their collaborators showed that the disease resets the human immune system to an immature state with only limited ability to respond to new infections.

Published in the journal Science Immunology, the study explains why children often catch other infectious diseases after measles.

The Harvard team analysed blood samples taken from 77 children before and after a measles outbreak in an unvaccinated community in the Netherlands.

They looked for antibodies, which remember viruses and bacteria they encounter to guard against a repeat infection.

After recovering from measles, the youngsters were left with plenty of antibodies against that virus - but ones they'd previously harboured against other germs had plummeted.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/ ... 75856.html

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Apparently the immune system is not all that good at multi-tasking.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:16 pm Biological warfare.

She should suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein.
Including living in a hole for several months.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:16 pm Biological warfare.
I'd say bioterrorism.

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Well...that is kinda true.
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So are children who tweet. The most annoying pieces of shit evah!

"Take off, and nuke the entire fucking planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
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Philippines struggling to cope with back-to-back disease outbreaks

Years of plummeting immunization rates, compounded by a vaccine scare and an insufficient healthcare infrastructure, are causing a public health crisis in the Philippines. Ana P. Santos reports from Manila.

The Philippines is grappling with a public health crisis as back-to-back disease outbreaks of measles, dengue and polio have gripped the country since the start of the year.

There have been more than 42,000 reported cases of measles and 560 deaths since the Department of Health (DOH) declared a measles outbreak in February last year. However, reports from the last month show the number of measles cases and their fatality rate are falling.

In August, the DOH declared a dengue epidemic. Since then, over 350,000 cases of dengue and more than 1,300 related deaths have been reported. It is the worst dengue epidemic the country has seen in a decade.

The following month, the DOH confirmed the re-emergence of polio 19 years after its eradication. A third case of polio was confirmed this week. The health department has launched campaigns to bolster polio immunization, including a move to inoculate millions of children under the age of five in several parts of the country.
https://www.dw.com/en/philippines-strug ... a-51084152
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There is no goddamn good reason for this.
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Indeed.
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Dumb fuckers make money every fucking day by spreading bullshit.

Hell, we could all do it.

If we'd only suspend our better judgement and our sympathy and empathy for our fellow humans.

But in the meantime, goddamn these psychopaths to flaming fucking hell.
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I guess Dumbass is going to lose their job.
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Indeed.
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I'm getting old.

Must be the vaccines.
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I'm switching to the anti-vax side: Let them die! Let them all die horribly!!!

Goddamned stupid motherfuckers.
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Majority of anti-vaxx ads on Facebook are funded by just two organizations

Study finds Robert F Kennedy Jr’s World Mercury Project and Larry Cook’s Stop Mandatory Vaccinations bought 54% of ads

The majority of Facebook ads spreading misinformation about vaccines are funded by two organizations run by well-known anti-vaccination activists, a new study in the journal Vaccine has found.

The World Mercury Project chaired by Robert F Kennedy Jr, and Stop Mandatory Vaccinations, a project of campaigner Larry Cook, bought 54% of the anti-vaccine ads shown on the platform during the study period.

“Absolutely we were surprised,” said David Broniatowski, a professor of engineering at George Washington University, one of the authors of the report. “These two individuals were generating the majority of the content.”

Cook uses crowd-funding platforms to raise money for Facebook ads and his personal expenses. The crowd-funding platform GoFundMe banned Cook’s fundraisers in March 2019. YouTube has demonetized Cook’s videos.

Kennedy is the son of the former US attorney general Bobby Kennedy. He also has a nonprofit focused on environmental causes. Kennedy’s brother, sister and niece publicly criticized his “dangerous misinformation” about vaccines in May. They called his work against vaccination, “tragically wrong”.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ions-study
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Samoa declares state of emergency as measles outbreak claims lives

Samoa's Government has declared a state of emergency, ordering all schools, including the National University of Samoa, to be closed as a deadly measles outbreak continues to spread.

Since Samoan officials announced a measles epidemic in October, seven suspected measles-related deaths have been recorded.

The majority of cases have involved children younger than four years old.

The Samoan Government ordered children under the age of 17 not to attend public gatherings in an attempt to stop the virus spreading.

It also made vaccinations a mandatory legal requirement for all people of Samoa who have not yet received a vaccination injection.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-17/ ... k/11711576
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Germany passes law making measles vaccination compulsory for children

Teachers and hospital staff must also be immunised, law says

Germany’s parliament has approved a law making it compulsory for schoolchildren to be vaccinated against measles.

The measure passed with a massive majority on Thursday, mandating that all children who attend school or nursery must be inoculated.

Politicians approved the government bill by 459 in favour to 89 against. There were 105 abstentions.

The law means parents who are unable to prove their offspring have been vaccinated against measles by 1 August 2021 - or those who refuse - will be fined up to €2,500 (£2,150).

Jens Spahn, Germany’s health minister, said compulsory vaccination was necessary because of an increase in cases of measles, a highly contagious and potentially fatal disease.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 04306.html
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Risk vs. benefit, a difficult concept.
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High-risk HPV types (like HPV 16 and 18) are spread by sexual contact, A woman who doesn't have a high risk HPV and who isn't engaging in risky sexual activity has zero risk of getting cancer from an HPV.
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If the PTB really want to stop cervical cancer, then create a test for HPV, and treat it like any other infectious disease
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Of course injecting billions of women with an expensive vaccine (most of whom don't need it), is lucrative, and more attractive than finding out who actually is at risk form HPV caused cancer
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robinson wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:43 am Of course injecting billions of women with an expensive vaccine (most of whom don't need it), is lucrative, and more attractive than finding out who actually is at risk form HPV caused cancer
Wrong.
HPV Vaccine Prices

The real HPV vaccine prices have fallen steeply over the last few years in many European countries, thanks to competitive tendering. For instance, the price per dose in Italy dropped under €30 in recent regional tenders and even sunk under €20 in the Netherlands; experts commonly felt there were similar drops in national tenders in Sweden and the UK (both countries where awarded prices are kept confidential).

This experience showed that prices can drop steeply even when competition is minimal, i.e. only two manufacturers, if vaccines are judged basically equivalent by health authorities for their main health target, i.e. CC prevention in the case of HPV vaccination.

Furthermore there are numerous programs providing the vaccine for free or at low cost. Exempli gratia:
How much does it cost?

The HPV vaccine is provided free in schools for girls and boys aged 12–13 years as part of the National HPV Vaccination Program.

Girls and boys aged up to 19 who are not in the eligible school year levels can also obtain two doses of the vaccine for free from their local immunisation provider or doctor as part of the ongoing program. Those aged 15 or older at the time of their first vaccination require three doses for best protection.
http://www.hpvvaccine.org.au/the-hpv-vaccine/cost.aspx
Merck Vaccine Patience Assistance Program:

Merck offers a vaccine assistance program to those who desire to receive Gardisil 9.﻿﻿ To qualify, you must:
• Be between the ages of 19 and 26
• Be uninsured
• Live in the United States, although you don't have to be a U.S. citizen
• Have an annual income less than $47,520 for individuals,$64,080 for couples or $97,200 for a family of four Merck does take special circumstances into account and often makes exceptions on a case-by-case basis. Do not let the income qualifications deter you from applying. You may still be approved based on your specific situation. Applying for the Merck Vaccine Patient Assistance Program is easy. Simply visit the Merck website and download and print the application. Return the completed application to your doctor's office. Your doctor's office will submit the application to Merck, who will notify the office of a decision the same day. It is important to note that the application must be completed and approved by Merck prior to getting the vaccination. https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-much ... ost-514124 And from as far back as 2013: Millions of girls in developing countries to be protected against cervical cancer thanks to new HPV vaccine deals Cape Town / Geneva, 9 May 2013 – A new record low price for human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines will help ensure millions of girls in developing countries can be protected against cervical cancer. Thanks to the GAVI Alliance, the poorest countries will now have access to a sustainable supply of HPV vaccines for as low as US$ 4.50 per dose. The same vaccines can cost more than $100 in developed countries and the previous lowest public sector price was$13 per dose.

HPV vaccines are primarily available as part of routine immunisation to girls in relatively wealthy countries. And yet of the 275,000 women in the world who die of cervical cancer every year, more than 85% are in low-income countries, where the incidence of HPV infection is higher and few women have access to screening and treatment.
https://www.gavi.org/hpv-price-announcement

I'll also add that when you're a teen you probably don't know what kind of sex life you will have…

Now to support your claim you just have to show that screening is cheaper and has the same efficiency as the vaccine and associated programs. ("Hey, I'll just get myself tested.")
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Witness wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:45 pm

Risk vs. benefit, a difficult concept.
Apparently for some it is. I will not pray for them.
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I presume we should still roam the savanna.
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"Only possibly end in disaster."

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ.

What a cunt.
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'There are no words': Samoa buries its children as measles outbreak worsens

In six weeks, a measles outbreak has infected 3,000 people out of a population of 200,000, killing 42, mostly children

Samoa, which is 4,300km east of Sydney and graduated to developing country status in 2014, is known to most people outside it as a peaceful, tropical holiday destination. But over the last six weeks, the country has been gripped by a devastating measles outbreak. There have been more than 3,000 confirmed cases in a country of just 200,000 people and 42 people have died, 38 of them children under four.
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The world’s most infectious disease has spread throughout much of the developed world this year, and while some countries have suffered devastating losses as a result, developed countries have seen comparatively little loss of human life. New Zealand recently suffered its worst epidemic in 20 years – 2,000 people were infected, none died.

Samoa has a huge diaspora community in New Zealand making it inevitable that measles would eventually reach Samoan shores. When it arrived, it reached a population with devastatingly low vaccination rates and a health service ill-equipped to meet the challenge of such an epidemic.

Samoa’s total population immunity has been estimated by the WHO to be as low as 30-40%, compared with its Pacific neighbours, such as Tonga and American Samoa, which boast immunisation rates of over 90%, close to or matching recommended rates for achieving immunity.

The immunisation rates of babies have plummeted in recent years. Four years ago, roughly 85% of one-year-olds were vaccinated, in 2017 that dropped to 60%.

But since then the rate plummeted sharply, after a scandal that rocked Samoa in 2018, when two Samoan nurses administered MMR vaccines to babies who subsequently died. The nurses pleaded guilty to negligence causing manslaughter and were sentenced to five years in prison after it emerged that one of the nurses mixed the MMR vaccine powder with expired muscle relaxant anaesthetic instead of water for injection.

People lost trust in the government and in immunisation programs, meaning that by 2018, only 31% of children under five had been vaccinated.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ak-worsens
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And very soon now, that will catch up with the goddamned fucking governments kids. Then the shit will hit the fan. goddamned idiot motherfuckers.

Eh, what the fuck. This little experiment has gone South anyway. Let it all end 'orribly and with a mighty wind, and much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

No worries. Doctor_X will take care of the kidz. Several hours apiece in a slow oven I should think.
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