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And very soon now, that will catch up with the goddamned fucking governments kids. Then the shit will hit the fan. goddamned idiot motherfuckers.

Eh, what the fuck. This little experiment has gone South anyway. Let it all end 'orribly and with a mighty wind, and much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

No worries. Doctor_X will take care of the kidz. :) Several hours apiece in a slow oven I should think. :) :)
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Gonna take longer than that at 30 min./lb.
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Just depends on how big they are, and how they're ... prepared. Done Southern style (50 gallons of 10W-30 over several 30,000 btu propane cookers) would take less time than that. Alternately, there are several recipes for 'Pulled Long Pork' in the Jeffrey Dahmer "How I Did It" cookbook. :shock: :shock:
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I'm sure marbling is also a factor.
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I don't get the fear and loathing over people who are absolutely against vaccines.
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Jesus fuck, just give em all smallpox and sit back and watch evolution at work
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I don't have fear or loathing but I do have a certain degree of disdain for those that don't get their kids vaccinated. Herd immunity is important for those that can't get vaccinated, so there's a little loathing going on, I suppose.
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robinson wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:35 pm I don't get the fear and loathing over people who are absolutely against vaccines.
Because they're idiots who are responsible for spreading disease. And misinformation.
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Samoa measles outbreak: Five more die in measles-ravaged Samoa
Dec 04 2019

Five people have died overnight in Samoa, bringing the death toll to 60 as the measles epidemic continues to kill the most vulnerable.

Of the 60 that have died, 54 were children under the age of 15, while 25 were babies aged less than one year old. Three deaths have now been recorded for adults over the age of 19.

In the last 24 hours a further 171 cases have also been confirmed by the Ministry of Health.
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This may explain why the vaccination rate in Samoa plummeted in recent years:

Measles outbreak spurred by anti-vaxxers shuts down Samoan government
The government of Samoa will shut down for two days this week while officials try to curb a deadly measles outbreak that has sickened 3,728 and killed 53—48 of whom were children ages 0 to 4 years old.
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In response, officials there have closed schools, barred children from public gatherings, and begun an intensive vaccination campaign. Since November, the government has reported vaccinating over 58,000 people.

But officials have their work cut out for them. The World Health Organization and UNICEF estimated that Samoa’s measles vaccination rate for infants was just 31% in 2018. That’s down from about 60% to 70% in earlier years and a high of 90% in 2013.

The drop may be partly explained by the tragic deaths of two infants in July 2018, according to the WHO. The infants died on the same day at the same hospital, shortly after they had each received what was supposed to be an MMR vaccine (which protects against measles, mumps, and rubella).

While some quickly blamed the vaccine itself, officials later determined that two nurses had improperly prepared the immunizations. Investigators found that they had mixed in a lethal dose of muscle relaxant, and one of the nurses tried to cover up the error by taking the empty bottle of the muscle relaxant home after retrieving it from the garbage. The two faced charges of manslaughter and were both sentenced to five years in prison in August of this year.

Still, news of the heartbreaking deaths shook the island nation’s confidence in the healthcare system. And anti-vaccination groups pounced on the circumstances. Most notably, the deaths were picked up by the Children’s Health Defense, run by the prominent anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. As The Washington Post noted, Kennedy’s organization spent months highlighting the deaths on Facebook while questioning the safety of the MMR vaccines. But the organization did not correct the posts or update its audience with information regarding the nurses’ error and convictions.

Kennedy visited Samoa in June, appearing alongside local anti-vaccine advocates and even a staff member of the US embassy. In November, Kennedy’s organization sent a letter to the Samoan prime minister, encouraging officials to question the MMR vaccine. Kennedy peddles the false and dangerous claim that vaccines are linked to autism, despite the fact that numerous scientific studies have robustly debunked the baseless claim.

On Sunday, Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi encouraged residents to fight back against misinformation. “Let us work together to encourage and convince those that do not believe that vaccinations are the only answer to the epidemic,” he said.
I wonder why it was left to nurses to "prepare" the vaccines in 2018? I thought they came in pre-filled syringes direct from the factory??
Having nurses prepare them manually introduces the possibility of human error (or even intentional maliciousness).
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Rob Lister wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:26 pmHerd immunity is important for those that can't get vaccinated, so there's a little loathing going on, I suppose.
There's that. But consider also the possibility of once and for all getting rid of some contagious horror. (As we did with smallpox.) A worthy goal. :|
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Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? Or is there a source of virus either in some other population of animals or in some inactive mode ... (is that even possible with smallpox???) just waiting for some unvaccinated fools to come along and get close to it?
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sparks wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? ....
No it hasn't but it's contained in two places (that we know of). One is about a half mile as the virus flies from me the other is somewhere in Russia. And there does not seem to be a wild reservoir the same is the case for measles. But given the propensity of virus to mutate and sheer human cussedness that could change.

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sparks wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:11 am Has smallpox really been successfully eradicated? What does that really mean? Or is there a source of virus either in some other population of animals or in some inactive mode ... (is that even possible with smallpox???) just waiting for some unvaccinated fools to come along and get close to it?
As Fid said, it's kept in military gubment labs (US & Russia), in case the radioactive fallout isn't enough to wipe us out:
The last cases of smallpox occurred in an outbreak of two cases, one of which was fatal, in Birmingham, United Kingdom, in 1978. A medical photographer, Janet Parker, contracted the disease at the University of Birmingham Medical School and died on September 11, 1978.[1] In light of this incident, all known stocks of the smallpox virus were destroyed or transferred to one of two World Health Organization reference laboratories which had BSL-4 facilities—the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the United States and the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology VECTOR in Koltsovo, Russia.[2] Since 1984, these two labs have been the only ones authorized by the WHO to hold stocks of live smallpox virus.
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The Aral smallpox incident was a July 30, 1971 outbreak of the viral disease which occurred as a result of a field test at a Soviet biological weapons (BW) facility on an island in the Aral Sea. The incident sickened ten people, of whom three died, and came to widespread public notice only in 2002.
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WHO, CDC data shows measles cases up 30 percent globally

The disease killed more than 140,000 people worldwide in 2018, despite the availability of a vaccine.

Although 2018 was a relatively quiet year for the disease in the U.S. -- with just 372 confirmed cases -- nearly 9.8 million people were diagnosed with measles globally, and more than 140,000 died from it, despite availability of a vaccine.

And this year, the disease has been far more prevalent in the U.S., with more than 1,200 cases to date -- the highest total in more than 25 years.

Both the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted the importance of vaccination Thursday as they released their final measles surveillance figures for 2018.

"That anyone should die from measles -- against which a safe, effective and affordable vaccine has existed for over 50 years -- is a collective failure which must be addressed," Katrina Kretsinger, WHO medical officer for measles, told UPI.

According to the WHO and CDC, measles cases surged globally in 2018 due to a series of "devastating outbreaks in all regions."

In all, there were 9.7 million estimated measles cases and 142,300 related deaths worldwide in 2018. Although this figure is down significantly from the more than 28 million cases reported in 2000, the first year the WHO started recording measles data, it shows an approximately 30 percent increase year-to-year from 2017, when there were an estimated 7.6 million cases and 124,000 deaths.

Southeast Asia had the highest share of measles cases and deaths, with more than 3.8 million and 39,000, respectively. However, Europe also had more than 850,000 cases as well, due in large part to declines in vaccination rates in countries such as France, Greece and the Britain.
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/12 ... 575562512/
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Malaysian Infant Diagnosed With Polio, Becoming The First Case In 27 Years

A 3-month-old infant from Malaysia has been diagnosed with polio, becoming the first case in the nation in 27 years.

According to media reports, the baby boy from Borneo island tested positive for the viral illness on 6 December, Friday after being admitted to the hospital with a fever and muscle weakness.

Director-General of Health Datuk Dr. Noor Hisham Abdullah said in a statement that the boy – despite being in a stable condition and contained in an isolation ward – still requires assistance to breathe.

According to test results, the infant’s virus shares genetic links with the recent polio outbreak in the Philippines.
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N.J. bill to remove religion as reason to avoid vaccinating kids enrages parents at hearing

Unpersuaded by hundreds of pleading and occasionally hostile parents, a state Senate panel voted Thursday to eliminate religion as an acceptable reason for New Jersey children to avoid vaccines required for school attendance.

After seven years of stalled efforts to compel better vaccine compliance and a recent reemergence of measles, state lawmakers are moving quickly to end the religious exemption that allowed 14,000 students to decline their shots last year.

The Senate Health, Human Services and Senior Citizens Committee approved the bill (A3818) by a 6-4 vote Thursday. Even before the hearing, the measure was listed on Monday’s agenda for action by the full 40-member body.

But hundreds of parents amassed outside the Statehouse in Trenton anyway. The crowds started arriving hours before the afternoon hearing. Hundreds of sign-waving, child-toting parents queued up in the first-floor hallway waiting for space inside the committee room. Before the hearing began, the audience recited the “Serenity Prayer."

They said they were outraged by what they see as government intrusion in violation of their First Amendment right of religious freedom. They vowed to pull their children out of school or move out of New Jersey.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/12/17/ ... aims-that/

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Or move out of New Jersey.

Great.

And we'll shoot the fuckers at the state line.
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Two killed in attack targeting polio vaccination team in Pakistan

Officers killed while on their way to accompany a polio vaccination team in northwest Lower Dir district.

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Since 2012, at least 98 people have been killed in attacks targeting polio vaccination teams in Pakistan, according to an Al Jazeera tally.

On Monday, Pakistan launched its latest National Immunisation Day, aiming to reach more than 39 million children under the age of five across the country with polio and other routine immunisations.

More than 260,000 staff take part in each immunisation effort, which involves vaccination teams being sent door to door in every district across the country of 207 million people.

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Pakistan's efforts to eradicate the debilitating disease, which targets children and can cause paralysis or loss of limb function, have been hampered for years by false rumours regarding the effects of the vaccine, including conspiracy theories alleging that it is part of a plot to sterilise or otherwise harm Muslims.

Worldwide efforts to eradicate the disease through the use of vaccine have largely been successful, reducing the number of cases from more than 350,000 in 1988 to 33 in 2018, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

It remains endemic, however, in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria, although the West African nation has not reported a case since 2016.
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Fucking worthless stupid degenerate scumbag vermin.
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How do you really feel about them shemp? :)
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Update:
Samoa ends measles state of emergency as infection rate slows

A mass vaccination drive covering 95 percent of population brings deadly disease under control.

The South Pacific island nation of Samoa has lifted a six-week state of emergency after the infection rate from a measles outbreak that killed 81 people was brought under control.

The highly-infectious disease swept through Samoa in November, infecting more than 5,600 people. Most of the victims were babies and young children.

The government said in a statement late on Saturday that the emergency orders, which included aggressive measures to contain the virus such as closing schools and restricting travel, had been lifted
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Death and infection rates in Samoa started to slow in mid-December after a vaccine drive pushed immunisation rates towards 95 percent, the level health experts say is effective in creating "herd immunity" that can contain the disease.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/ ... 59134.html

Vaccines work. How surprising. :roll:
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Events promoting vaccination called off in Nevada after harassing comments were posted on social media :|
(CNN)A non-profit that promotes vaccinations in Nevada canceled two events after anti-vaxxers posted harassing comments against the host venues on social media.

Immunize Nevada scheduled two fundraising breakfasts in December to honor health care employees who help with vaccinations. Online harassment and concerns of protesters coming to the events drove the organization to cancel the Reno and Las Vegas events.
"We looked at the whole picture and because we knew that these events were to be celebrations in honor of immunization champions in Nevada, we didn't want there to be any risk," Executive Director Heidi Parker of Immunize Nevada told CNN on Monday.
There has been an "increase in harassment and anti-vax extremist behavior," Parker said. She cited anti-vaccination supporters speaking up at a meeting of Nevada's legislative health care committee, which she spoke at on December 11.
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That's a lot of stupid in a small space, could turn into a Black Hole of Stoopid!
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Jesus H. Fucking Christ, the stupid burns hotter than the Sun!
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DR Congo measles: More than 6,000 dead in world's worst outbreak

The number of people killed by a measles epidemic in the Democratic Republic of Congo has passed 6,000, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said.

The WHO says the epidemic is the world's largest and fastest moving.

Around 310,000 suspected measles cases have been reported since the start of 2019, the WHO says.

The Congolese government and the WHO launched an emergency vaccination programme last September.

More than 18 million children under five were vaccinated across the country in 2019, the WHO says.

But poor infrastructure, attacks on health centres and a lack of access to routine healthcare have all hindered efforts to stop the spread of the disease.

Every one of the country's 26 provinces has reported cases of measles since the outbreak was declared in June last year.

DR Congo is also experiencing the second most deadly outbreak of Ebola the world has ever seen but this has killed less than half as many people as measles in the country.
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Ha! Take that Ebola.
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Wasn't sure whether to post this in Thought-Provoking Graphs or Cunt of the Week. "Vaccine Course" merely flipped the same meaningless line and got your antivax propaganda right here.

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shemp wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:14 am Jesus H. Fucking Christ, the stupid burns hotter than the Sun!
More like "oozes more than Cuyahoga River sludge."
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Fewer in U.S. Continue to See Vaccines as Important
  • 84% in U.S. say vaccinating children is important, down from 94% in 2001
  • 86% say vaccines are not more dangerous than the diseases they prevent
  • 45% of Americans say vaccines do not cause autism in children
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Never read that topic
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