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Rare Book

Post by ed » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:19 pm

"Rare" is a funny word. I have read that a book is only considered "rare" if there are less than 10 or so copies extant. That would mean that the First Folio isn't rare at all :D

I present to you a really rare book that I bought back when I was 16 or so.

It is bound in what is called "limp" vellum. No, that is not another well deserved dig at Abdul, it refers to the fact that the vellum is not over boards which serve to stiffen it. Size is ~5.75in x 3in.
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It is a rule book for the Order of Minims, a Catholic order that were so theatrically self righteous that no other order could stomach them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minims_(religious_order)
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How old? Well the order was founded in the late 15th c. But it doesn't feel that old. Also, back in the day, I investigated the watermarks on the paper used in printing. As I recall that put it after 1500 sometime. Let's say 1500-1600. The upper limit is based on something I will share in a minute.

I haven't looked for examples of this book in decades but thanks to the inter webs it seems that there a few copies printed in places other than Milan (where this one comes from). And, wowie zowie!! One on ebay!!!
https://www.ebay.it/itm/131997587765?ss ... Track=true
Amazing. Later edition I think.

Anyway, there is an inscription on the flyleaf
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That date ... 1505 or 6 or 16 something. The old "5's" were sorta elongated. Anyway that is the upper limit for the age I think. Unless it refers to something that happened in the past. Never got around to having it translated.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by ed » Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:32 pm

another turd in the punchbowl thread? :cry:
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:04 pm

ed wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:32 pm
another turd in the punchbowl thread? :cry:
:rub:

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Is it a good read? :)

Here's one I own, out of print if not rare (there are millions out there).

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Not a pic of mine in particular, but one just like it for sale used for three dollars on Amazon.



More copies of this book "placed" (not necessarily sold though nominal cover price was 25 cents) than any other the Watchtower has printed ever.

Not currently available from original publisher.

Synopsis:
The book they'd try to sell you at the door, but also a study guide for new converts with all the required doctrine.
If this book were true, Armageddon would have happened a year or so after I bought it.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by ed » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:34 pm

Fine. One day internet archaeologists will excavate this tread and the lack of interaction with it will not reflect well on anyone.

You for being philistines and me for casting pearls before swine with childish hope. :cry:
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:38 pm

You might have some luck translating if you typed the words into Google Translate or a similar service.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:07 pm

Here is the text in cut-and-paste-able form.

https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_HdSBX ... C_djvu.txt

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Re: Rare Book

Post by shemp » Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:08 am

It's a cookbook!
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Fid » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:06 pm

'round here somewhere I've my grandpas high school physics text c 1915. Standard late 19th century stuff. But then...OMFG...The Panama fucking Canal ands if that were not enough
Last chapter..

The Curies experiments with radium promises a rich field of experimentation.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:53 pm

Inherited my grandmother's copy of a secular history of the Jews in modern times, published in 1920.

Happy ending in the "present". Not only are the Jews completely emancipated in Germany, but even in Russia. :|
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:05 am

I have 3 volumes of "Dickens' Works", the "Universe Edition", published by Porter & Coates, Philadelphia. Inside the front cover on 2 of them, the owner wrote his name, "Francis T. Davies. 1880".

The cover is loose on one of them and I can see that the binding was crafted using printed pages from what may have been an anatomy textbook, a gymnastics text, or a construction manual for Frankenstein's Monster. "The abdominal muscles are caused so to act as to impel their contents forward, toward the diaphragm. At the will of the operator the forward end of the frame is depressed, and, being pivoted in the middle, the opposite end is elevated. This causes the pelvis to be highest, and of course the visceral organs to gravitate from the pelvis, drawing it..."

Now I am looking up "Francis T. Davies" on genealogy sites to see what I can find about this previous owner of these weighty tomes.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Fid » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:12 am

We await.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by ed » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:11 pm

oy vay
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Re: Rare Book

Post by solely » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:48 pm

All very stimulating.

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Re: Rare Book

Post by ed » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:22 pm

solely wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:48 pm
All very stimulating.
For low values of stimulating.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:37 pm

Dickens was a great author except for the annoying "clever" names he used for some of his characters.
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:51 pm

Anyway, a search for Francis T. Davies turned up these records:

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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:10 pm

The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

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Re: Rare Book

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:47 pm

Pyrrho wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:37 pm
Dickens was a great author except for the annoying "clever" names he used for some of his characters.
Those are typical English names.

You know, like "Jacob Rees-Mogg". 8)
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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:42 pm

In 1881, he lived at 909 Superior:

http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/digital/colle ... 678/rec/29

On page 141:

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Which is down by the river, next to the bridge, which at that time would have been the Superior Viaduct.

In the modern day:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/909+S ... 81.6994368

In 1890, he lived at 87 Decker Avenue. Address numbering changed at some point. Modern addresses are shown in white text.

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Decke ... -81.633053

In the modern day:

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In 1911, he lived at 7717 Lockyear Ave. NE, which was in Ward 24 at the time. I had the wrong area in previous post. The red borders are misleading. The Ward boundaries are designated by the dashed lines; ward numbers are in the fancy typeface.

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http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/digital/colle ... 480/rec/49

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In the modern day:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/7717+ ... 81.6345331

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The house there now was built in 1915. Look up parcel number 10533133

https://myplace.cuyahogacounty.us/

He does not appear in the 1921 phone directory so he either moved out of Cleveland or was dead by then. Considering that he was 64 in 1911, my guess is the latter.

But I have 3 of his books.

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Re: Rare Book

Post by Pyrrho » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:02 pm

ed wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:22 pm
solely wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:48 pm
All very stimulating.
For low values of stimulating.
Found this in one of the old city directories, thought it might cheer you up:

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