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↑ Irrational prohibitions maintain the flock in awe. (See the post about Muslims fearing that foreign breast milk will somehow mess up genealogy. Pesky bodily fluids!)



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Allegedly from a church's Instagram:

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Follow up on the United Methodist Church splitting up over gay stuff.

With right wing spin this time. :BigGrin3:

Liberal Methodists Toss Out The Africans
The American Conservative
The split in the UMC is complete and there's more than a hint of condescension among progressives towards their black brethren.


The United Methodist Church is united no more. The nation’s second largest Protestant denomination announced on January 3 that it had approved a plan to allow theologically conservative “traditionalist” Methodists who reject same-sex marriage and LGBT+ clergy to form their own denomination. The agreement, to which representatives of both sides have agreed, gives the traditionalists $25 million over four years to kickstart their as-yet-unnamed Methodist church. The UMC’s General Conference will still have to vote on the plan in May, but most outlets are treating the split as a done deal that will allow both traditionalists and liberals to proceed “unhindered by the other,” as one minister put it.

Initially, it might seem like a few backward mainline trads were just tossed out on their collective ear by the woke majority. But the most important question in any divorce is: “who left who?” And the answer isn’t always obvious.

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So if the traditionalists are in the majority, why is it that they will have to throw out their UMC stationary? And why is the UMC so often labeled as part of the American liberal mainline? The answer to the first question, according to Ryan Danker, a professor of Methodist Studies at Wesley Theological Seminary, is that the traditionalists “want a flexible and non-bureaucratic movement” and are eager to ditch the UMC’s “top-heavy” bureaucracy. The answer to the second is that the UMC is not an entirely American denomination. Liberal Methodism is indeed dominant in America, but over the last two decades, Methodism—along with other forms of Christianity—has been growing explosively in Africa.

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Censored for dotage forbidden repetition:
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OK, my bad; an old joke, then?

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I'm pretty sure you posted that before because I remember my comment about the New York license plate.
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From the minor leagues of clerical plunder, but it's a local story ...

Chicago pastor charged with bilking federal program to feed needy kids, spending $142,000 on a Bentley for himself
Chicago Tribune
The slogan once plastered outside the Rev. Clarence Smith Jr.’s storefront church on Chicago’s West Side promised to make the “ministry meaningful to the imperfect man.”

It turns out Smith has been far from perfect himself, federal authorities allege.

Smith, who has led the New Life Impact Church in the Lawndale neighborhood for years, has been indicted on charges alleging he stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from a federal program intended to feed needy children, spending the money on a $142,000 Bentley luxury vehicle and other personal expenses.

It’s not the first time that Smith, 45, has been accused of financial malfeasance. Nearly a decade ago, he pleaded guilty in DuPage County to using forged signatures to swindle an elderly man’s estate out of more than $100,000, court records show.

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Just to be clear about this, he stole from poor people who he knew personally, not just in the abstract.

This is his church.
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Note the following architectural features:
The building used to be a store in better days.
They had to brick up the display window because that the kind of neighborhood it is.
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Update: C of E backs down.

They forgot for a moment who "established" them. :)

Church of England 'sorry' for saying sex is only for married heterosexuals
Sky News (UK)
The archbishops of Canterbury and York have apologised for a Church of England statement that said only married heterosexual couples should have sex.

Justin Welby and John Sentamu have said they and the church "acknowledge" last week's statement "jeopardised trust" - adding that they are "very sorry and recognise the division and hurt this caused".

Mr Welby, the archbishop of Canterbury, and Mr Sentamu, the archbishop of York, added: "At our meeting of the College of Bishops of the Church of England this week we continued our commitment to the Living in Love and Faith project which is about questions of human identity, sexuality and marriage.

"This process is intended to help us all to build bridges that will enable the difficult conversations that are necessary as, together, we discern the way forward for the Church of England."

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↑ You nasty little historian, you. :mrgreen:





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His Holiness Kirill, Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia,talks about God's country.

No not Russia ...

Patriarch Kirill: “Presence of the Church is Essential in Antarctica where There is a Certain Reflection of the Kingdom of God”
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His Holiness Kirill, Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia, believes that Antarctica is absolutely a special place on the planet, its order makes it look like a certain reflection of the Kingdom of God, and spiritual support for the people who live and work there is crucial.

“The order [there] is really amazing. This is some kind of reflection of the Kingdom of God. I have already said this before: people, penguins, and the amazing expanses of Antarctica are in some kind of harmonious interaction,” said the Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church, reports Patriarchia.ru.

According to the Patriarch, it is joyful that the entire world community interacts in the Antarctic without any noticeable conflicts: “there are no weapons placed there, there is no confrontation, but people in the face of the greatness of nature work closely with each other.”

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Thieved :)
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"Yes! A BIG REWARD!" ====> Click here to turn in a sicko
The arc of the moral universe bends towards chaos.
People who believe God or History are on their side provide the chaos.