Heathens' corner

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Re: Heathens' corner

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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:02 pm

An oldie but goody. 8)
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Quick! What's the biggest threat to Christians in the world today?

Muslims? Popery? Communism? Homos? Women priests? Democrats?

Nope. :mrgreen:

The biggest threat to Christians is the teaching of a pre-tribulation rapture
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In many scriptures of the Bible, there is a “falling away” or discussion of great deceptions that are coming to the world. It has been hard for believers in Christ to comprehend the possibility of the masses falling away from Christianity because faith has been a powerful part of society for nearly two millenniums, but we are seeing it today. Moreover, we are seeing the spreading of a seed that will cause further apostasy among believers in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior: the myth of a pre-tribulation rapture.

Most who have gone to church in the last hundred years have likely considered the possibility at the very least that the rapture of the church will occur before the tribulation that is spoken of in many books of the Bible, including the Book of Revelation. Some estimates put it at 90% of the Christian church believes in a pre-tribulation rapture. The vast majority of popular churches teach that believers will be called up to Heaven before the tribulation. Simply stated, the Bible does not support this claim.

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Note for non-USAians: This is part of a slap fight between different flavors of Christian fundamentalist (properly self so called) apocalyptic ninnies. :lmao:
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Re: Heathens' corner

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A notorious provocateur, Cattelan’s sculpture La Nona Ora depicting Pope John Paul II being hit by a meteorite was considered a blasphemous act. In 2001 this religiously challenging artwork was vandalized when displayed at Zacheta Gallery in Poland.

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Re: Heathens' corner

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Re: Heathens' corner

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< rubs hands, thinking of the hot redheaded she-devils awaiting him >

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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:49 am

It's an important theological point about good people.

Traditional religions of all kinds tend posit some sort of punishment for evil in the afterlife, and there is mostly a big overlap between them in defining what behavior is evil.

What is unusual about Christianity is the idea that Hell is the default destination. Hence "good people" are on the list of the Hell bound.
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Witness » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:22 pm

↑ For the Greeks everybody went to Hades. Archaic Jews thought the souls were all just stockpiled somehow, without sensation or feeling. (Why bother with the concept, one wonders.) For some Protestants your metaphysical fate is sealed in advance and you will get saved (or damned) anyway.
So, debatable. (All this from memory.)





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Re: Heathens' corner

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Re: Heathens' corner

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Re: Heathens' corner

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Reformation 2?

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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:20 am

An interesting historical sidelight on Jehovah's Witnesses.



I've said it before -- Every religion changes from time to time, but only Jehovah's Witnesses issues doctrines with definite expiration dates.
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by sparks » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:11 am

More religulous bullshit.
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:14 am

sparks wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:11 am
More religulous bullshit.
Well OK, it's a standard brand Christian making a pitch to JWs, but the false prophesy bit is fascinating to me anyway. 8)
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by sparks » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:51 am

"antwat"??

Does this require a correction on your part or is it some new name-calling I've not heard of yet? :)
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:46 pm

Fixed. :oops:
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by ed » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:36 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:20 am
An interesting historical sidelight on Jehovah's Witnesses.



I've said it before -- Every religion changes from time to time, but only Jehovah's Witnesses issues doctrines with definite expiration dates.
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34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:33 pm

ed wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:36 pm
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
At least standard brand Christianity, after some shucking and jiving by the Apostle Paul, settled on claiming that referred to the Transfiguration, and not the Second Coming.

Jehovah's Witnesses keep on making the same sort of mistake over and over.
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by ed » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:28 pm

Bullshit
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:39 pm

Ambiguous.

Which bit are you talking about?
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Re: Heathens' corner

Post by ed » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:16 pm

The apigetics.
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