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Chile removes statute of limitations on child sex abuse amid Church crisis

SANTIAGO (Reuters) - Chilean President Sebastian Pinera signed into law on Thursday a bill to remove the statute of limitations on sex crimes involving children amid a sex abuse crisis that has rocked the country’s Catholic Church and claimed more than 200 victims.

The law, which first was proposed in 2010, ends impunity in cases that would have previously had a statute of limitations that varied between five and 10 years, depending on the nature of the crime. The new law is not retroactive.

“Beginning today, the passing of time will never more be an accomplice to those who abuse our children, nor an ally of impunity,” Pinera said.

The centre-right Pinera revived the nearly decade-old bill last year, following a visit to the South American nation by the pope that brought to the surface a string of abuse allegations now being investigated by prosecutors.

Chile’s Public Ministry says it is investigating more than 150 cases of sexual abuse or cover-up involving the Catholic Church.

The new law applies to crimes of rape, sexual abuse, the production of pornographic materials and prostitution involving children and adolescents.
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Catholic order releases names of members accused of abuse

A Baltimore-based Catholic religious order that sponsors schools across the U.S. has released a list of dozens of members accused of sexually abusing children.

The list released Friday by the Xaverian Brothers includes two current members "with a credible or established offense." The group, a separate entity not part of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, says no credibly accused brothers are in active ministry.

Eighteen men on the list are dead or former brothers with a credible or established offense. Also named are 14 dead or former brothers against whom there are allegations that couldn't be "fully investigated" but for which there is a "reasonable possibility" that they occurred.

The Baltimore Sun reports the order's general superior issued a statement asking forgiveness "for this unspeakable violation of trust."

The brothers operate 13 schools in Maryland, Kentucky, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts, according to their website.
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An Evangelical Megachurch Is Sued for More Than $1 Million in Child Sexual Abuse Case

A woman who said she was sexually abused as a child by a pastor at one of the country’s most prominent evangelical megachurches sued the church on Friday, alleging gross negligence and seeking more than $1 million in damages.

The case against the Village Church — which is based in Flower Mound, Tex., outside Dallas, and is led by Matt Chandler — is perhaps the most high-profile current lawsuit alleging child sexual abuse in the Southern Baptist Convention. It comes as the largest Protestant denomination in the United States has vowed to address widespread sexual abuse in its congregations.

The suit alleges that the church was “willfully negligent” in its failure to protect a child in its care from being sexually assaulted. It also says the church is liable for the actions of the pastor, who was removed from the staff last year. The woman is seeking damages after she says the abuse caused emotional distress, including an ongoing struggle with depression.
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Michigan priests accused of sex abuse turned to under-the-radar group

DRYDEN, Mich. — The visiting priests arrived discreetly, day and night.

Stripped of their collars and cassocks, they went unnoticed in a series of tiny Midwestern towns as they were escorted into dingy warehouses and offices. Neighbors had no idea some of them might have been accused sexual predators.

For nearly two decades, a small nonprofit group called Opus Bono Sacerdotii has operated out of unmarked buildings in rural Michigan, providing money, shelter, transport, legal help and other support to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Catholic priests accused of sexual abuse.

And while powerful clerics have publicly pledged to hold the church accountable for the crimes of its clergy and help survivors heal, some of them arranged meetings, offered blessings or quietly sent checks to this organization that backed the abusers, The Associated Press has found.

Catholic leaders say the church has no official relationship with the group. But Opus Bono successfully forged networks within the church hierarchy.

The Associated Press unraveled the continuing story of Opus Bono in dozens of interviews with experts, lawyers, clergy members and former employees, along with hundreds of pages of documents obtained through Freedom of Information requests.

In recent months, two of the group's founders, Joe Maher and Peter Ferrara, were forced out after Michigan's attorney general found Opus Bono had misused donated funds and misled contributors. A third co-founder, Father Eduard Perrone, was abruptly removed from ministry earlier this month after the AP began asking about an allegation that he had sexually abused a child decades ago. Perrone denies the allegation.

Over the years, Opus Bono brought on as employees or advisers at least three clergymen accused of sexual abuse, and offered sympathizers a tax-deductible, anonymous method of sending money to specific accused priests.
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Archbishop says prison preferable to complying with child abuse confession law

Priests would have to break the seal of the confessional and report any admissions of child abuse under proposed news laws

Melbourne’s Catholic archbishop insists three years jail is preferable to breaking the seal of confession and reporting child sexual abuse to authorities.

Priests will risk prison if they don’t report child abuse revealed to them during the sacrament of confession, under new laws introduced in Victoria on Wednesday.

The bill, introduced into state parliament would make religious ministers mandatory reporters of abuse suspicions alongside police, teachers, medical practitioners and early childhood workers.

“I don’t think in contemporary and mainstream times, knowing what we know now, that we can do anything other than say the rights of children trump anyone’s religious views,” the attorney general, Jill Hennessy, told reporters.

“Ultimately this is about making sure that we start to right the wrongs of systemic abuse.”

Archbishop Peter Comensoli said he’d ask someone who admitted abuse to tell him outside the box but if they refused he would “keep the seal”.

“I hold the principle of mandatory reporting … and I also hold onto the principle of the seal of confession. My own position is that I don’t see that as mutually exclusive,” he told ABC Radio on Wednesday.
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Post by ed » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:08 pm

I thought that absolution would be granted only when a malefactor turned themselves into the police.

And how would they ever know is a priest did not report it?
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I thought that absolution would be granted only when a malefactor turned themselves into the police.

And how would they ever know is a priest did not report it?
The privacy of the confessional is not predicated on whether or not absolution is granted.
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Post by ed » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:54 pm

I know that you fucking heathen bastard. The point of confession is absolution. Why go there if you can't get absolution?

Modulo this you wanker.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:06 pm

The point is absolution, but the priest deciding you're not yet ready for it is very common. This does not abrogate the "seal" of confession.
Of course the priest is supposed to put you on the right path toward true contrition in such a case.

Bear in mind this normally has nothing to do with criminal wrong doing.
For example it could be insufficient resolve to stop masturbating.

The sacrament of confession has taken place.

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Guam’s ex-archbishop shielded culture of clergy sex abuse

For decades, Apuron oversaw a culture of impunity where abusers went unpunished. Long after it erupted into scandal on the mainland, clergy sexual abuse remained a secret on Guam. On this island where four out of five people are Catholic, the abusers held the power.

Now, thousands of pages of court documents reviewed by The Associated Press, along with extensive interviews, tell a story of systemic abuse dating from the 1950s to as recently as 2013. They show a pattern of repeated collusion by predator priests, with abuse that spanned generations and reached all the way to the very top of the church hierarchy.

The archbishop used his power to stymie a lawmaker’s efforts to allow victims to sue the church, which could have exposed his past. It wasn’t until Denton and other victims spoke out in 2016 that the Vatican finally suspended Apuron, nearly 40 years after Denton first reported his rape. Apuron still denies the allegations.
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Perv who snapped pics of woman in dressing room turns out to be high-ranking Mormon church official

A man who was caught secretly taking photos of a woman in a Nashville, Tennessee shopping mall has been identified has a high-level member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Fox 17 reports.

Stephen Murdock was arrested on Tuesday after police say he took the photos at an H&M store in a mall at Opry Mills. According to the report, Murdock’s wife begged the victim not to call the police after the incident.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:23 pm

At least he's not a homo. :)
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Post by Witness » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:14 pm

Old article (2015):
NY Bishop Rape Shames Abuse Victims: Boys Are ‘Culpable’ For Their Actions At 7 Years Old

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Bishop Robert Cunningham of the diocese of Syracuse, NY doesn’t think priests should take all of the blame for decades, if not centuries, of sexual abuse against young boys. According to Cunningham, the “age of reason” in the Catholic church is seven, so those boys are culpable for their actions.

The shocking statement came during testimony that was recently released from a deposition for a federal lawsuit. Charles Bailey, a survivor of a priest’s abuse, asked then-Bishop James Moynihan whether the church held children victims partly responsible for sexual abuse from priests . “(Bishop) Moynihan said that right to my face – ‘The age of reason is 7, so if you’re at least 7 you’re culpable for your actions.’ That kind of floored me,” said Bailey.

Obviously, the sentiment isn’t something one Bishop believes, but a broader excuse used to cover for the guilt of sexual predators.

The “age of reason” may be seven years old, but that in no way makes it the “age it’s the kid’s fault he was raped.” According to church doctrine, seven is the age a child should understand the difference between right and wrong. It’s also the age a child is eligible for communion.
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Post by Anaxagoras » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:06 am

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:21 am

For those who may not know, that is THE academically prestigious expensive Orthodox Jewish school in town, not just some little sectarian "yeshiva".
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:53 am

Back to the major leagues.

Vatican claims suspended bishop accused of sex abuse should be allowed to leave country for Rome job
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NEWSCATHOLIC CHURCH, HOMOSEXUALITYWed Aug 28, 2019 - 5:52 pm EST

Vatican claims suspended bishop accused of sex abuse should be allowed to leave country for Rome job
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ORAN, Argentina, August 28, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — The Vatican’s third-highest ranking prelate claimed in a letter to an Argentine judge that a bishop accused of sexual abuse against seminarians in Argentina has a job in Rome, even though he’s been suspended since January, Crux reported Wednesday.

Venezuelan Archbishop Edgar Peña Parra, the Substitute for the Vatican’s Secretariat of State, signed a June 3 letter stating Bishop Gustavo Zanchetta is “employed by the Vatican” and must return to Rome “to continue his daily work.”

Zanchetta was formally charged in June with “aggravated continuous sexual abuse” against two seminarians in 2016 and 2017 while he was bishop of Oran diocese in northern Argentina.

If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:53 am
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Argentina, Carlo Maria Viganò, Catholic, Edgar Peña Parra, Gustavo Zanchetta, Homosexuality, Pope Francis, Sex Abuse Crisis In Catholic Church
Fascinating. :twisted:

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Post by Witness » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:05 am

For those interested, a long Wiki page: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases by country.

If it was some rich New Age sect, wouldn't it be closed down?

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:00 pm

Louisiana Bishop Threatens to Kick Out Seminarians Associated With Whistleblowers
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LAFAYETTE, La. (ChurchMilitant.com) - A bishop is decreeing he will not ordain any seminarian who is associated with a lay group that is investigating and exposing corruption in his diocese.

Within days of a report showing Bp. Douglas Deshotel of the diocese of Lafayette, Louisiana, is knowingly leaving a priest in ministry he admits should "not be alone with children," he issued a decree threatening all men in formation to disassociate with the group that exposed him.

On Thursday, Bp. Deshotel issued two decrees to men in the seminary and diaconate programs in the diocese warning them he would kick them out of formation if they are found associating with the Society of St. Peter Damian (SSPD).

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Post by ed » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:08 pm

Obstruction? If the cops are investigating I'd assume so. Then again I know nothing about the law.

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