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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlemen ... buse_cases

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There is no mention of Chicago.
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sparks wrote:
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Mother Theresa: The dead cunt that keeps on taking.
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Pope decries that “greed of a few” worsens poverty of others
Crux

Did he say "present company excepted"? :cowbell:
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Vatican accused of harbouring bishop wanted for alleged sexual abuse of young priests

The Vatican has been accused of harbouring a bishop wanted for alleged sex abuse offences, as Pope Francis railed against the evils of sexual exploitation on a visit to Thailand.

Prosecutors in Argentina have issued an international arrest warrant for Bishop Gustavo Zanchetta, who is accused of sexually abusing young trainee priests, known as seminarians. He denies the charges.

Bishop Zanchetta, 55, who is close to his fellow Argentine Pope Francis, lives in the Vatican.

Not only that, he reportedly resides in Casa Santa Marta, an accommodation block in the shadow of St Peter’s Basilica where Francis has lived ever since his election six years ago.

Argentinian prosecutors have complained that the bishop has failed to respond to repeated emails and telephone calls about the abuse allegations, which were made last year by two young seminarians. The trainee priests also accused him of mismanagement of the diocese’s finances and abuse of power.

If convicted, the bishop would face up to 10 years in prison, but there is no extradition treaty between Argentina and the Vatican and for now he seems to be safely ensconced in Rome.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/1 ... ual-abuse/

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Nope.

If they are already priests that implies consent, sort of like married women to their husbands previous to modern times. :)
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↑ What a brilliant career you would have made with the Jesuits. :wink:

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Argentina: Catholic priests jailed for abusing deaf children

A court in Argentina has sentenced two Roman Catholic priests to more than 40 years in prison for sexually abusing deaf children at a church school.

Horacio Corbacho and Nicola Corradi, as well as a gardener, were found guilty of rape and abuse at the school in Mendoza province from 2004 to 2016.

Several victims were in court to see sentence passed on Monday.

The case has shocked Argentina, Pope Francis' homeland, with many accusing the Church of acting too slowly.

What was the court's finding?

On Monday, the court in the provincial capital Mendoza sentenced Argentine priest Corbacho to 45 years in prison.

The 59 year old was found guilty of sexually abusing children at the Instituto Antonio Provolo de Mendoz​a in the city of Luján de Cuyo.

Corradi, an 83-year-old Italian national, was given a 42-year sentence.

He had been investigated for abuses at the institute's school in Verona, Italy, in the 1970s, but was never charged.

Armando Gómez, the gardener at the Luján de Cuyo school was jailed for 18 years.

The sentences cannot be appealed against.
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Surge of new abuse claims threatens church like never before

NEW YORK (AP) — At the end of another long day trying to sign up new clients accusing the Roman Catholic Church of sexual abuse, lawyer Adam Slater gazes out the window of his high-rise Manhattan office at one of the great symbols of the church, St. Patrick’s Cathedral.

“I wonder how much that’s worth?” he muses.

Across the country, attorneys like Slater are scrambling to file a new wave of lawsuits alleging sexual abuse by clergy, thanks to rules enacted in 15 states that extend or suspend the statute of limitations to allow claims stretching back decades. Associated Press reporting found the deluge of suits could surpass anything the nation’s clergy sexual abuse crisis has seen before, with potentially more than 5,000 new cases and payouts topping $4 billion.

It’s a financial reckoning playing out in such populous Catholic strongholds as New York, California and New Jersey, among the eight states that go the furthest with “lookback windows” that allow sex abuse claims no matter how old. Never before have so many states acted in near-unison to lift the restrictions that once shut people out if they didn’t bring claims of childhood sex abuse by a certain age, often their early 20s.

That has lawyers fighting for clients with TV ads and billboards asking, “Were you abused by the church?” And Catholic dioceses, while worrying about the difficulty of defending such old claims, are considering bankruptcy, victim compensation funds and even tapping valuable real estate to stay afloat.
https://apnews.com/621efb9528384f278c71a97308404531

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Contributions to Catholic Church plunge amid sex abuse crisis as Vatican 'faces default' over financial failings

The Telegraph (UK)
Worldwide donations to the Catholic Church have plunged in the wake of sex abuse scandals that have eroded faith in the Vatican, a new book claims.

The Church’s finances are in such a dire state – a result of a toxic mix of incompetence, internal wrangling and corruption – that the Vatican risks a default by 2023, according to the expose.

The amount of money donated by ordinary Catholics to the Church, known as Peter’s Pence, has plummeted from €101 million in 2006 to €70 million in 2016 and may now be less than €60 million.

Only a fifth of the total goes to helping the poor and needy, with the rest held in bank accounts or used to plug gaps in the finances of the Curia, the Vatican’s governing body.

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Same story in The Wall Street Journal puts a finer point on it.

Vatican Uses Donations for the Poor to Plug Its Budget Deficit
Only 10% of donations to the Peter’s Pence collection go directly to charitable works

Every year, Catholics around the world donate tens of millions of dollars to the pope. Bishops exhort the faithful to support the weak and suffering through the pope’s main charitable appeal, called Peter’s Pence.

What the church doesn’t advertise is that most of that collection, worth more than more than €50 million ($55 million) annually, goes toward plugging the hole in the Vatican’s own administrative budget, while as little as 10% is spent on charitable works, according to people familiar with the funds.

The little-publicized breakdown of how the Holy See spends Peter’s Pence, known only among senior Vatican officials, is raising concern among some Catholic Church leaders that the faithful are being misled about the use of their donations, which could further hurt the credibility of the Vatican’s financial management under Pope Francis.

The Vatican is currently embroiled in a scandal over opaque real-estate investments in London, which has triggered a power struggle within the Vatican’s bureaucracy and led to the dismissal of its chief financial regulator. Last month, the Vatican was suspended from an international network of anti-money-laundering watchdogs.

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Reverse-Robin-Hood-ism.
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The RCC going banko? Couldn't happen to a nicer institution.
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When they say "bring in" what do they mean exactly? Does that include local donations?

BTW I never head of Peter's Penis Pence.
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ed wrote:
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When they say "bring in" what do they mean exactly? Does that include local donations?

BTW I never head of Peter's Penis Pence.
The annual world wide fundraiser. Allegedly for the poor.
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Ahhhhhh

I wonder what the weekly donations are at
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Just as an aside, the Roman Catholic Church's enormous fortune is not (as most seem to think) based on centuries of accumulating wealth.

The pricelessness of certain artifacts aside (because that isn't relevant to cash flow and investment), the Church effectively went bankrupt when they lost the Papal States to the Kingdom of Italy back in the 1860s.

The current fortune was built by investment starting with the enormous indemnity paid by Mussolini as part of the Lateran Treaty. This is also the treaty which set up the business of Vatican City being a sovereign entity.

Mussolini's idea was to establish clear title to Italy before trying to conquer Africa.
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Who owns the property here? Never really understood the finances
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ed wrote:
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Who owns the property here? Never really understood the finances
The Roman Catholic Church controls it through various corporations, including their own bank.
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Right but who holds title to the church on the corner? That is to say, if a diocese were sued (I guess that would be the unit of the church to get slammed) would that property be an asset? Are the dioceses incorporated as such?
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In general in the USA, the diocese.

The Vatican is a sovereign nation, and can own things as such. And all manner of other arrangements in different places.

What counts is control, not formal ownership.
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Not when it comes to a lawsuit and if the entity wants to declare bankruptcy. The accountants will be all over them and ownership of assets will be sorta important
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