Being a tribe rather than a faith (in most cases).

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Being a tribe rather than a faith (in most cases).

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Not just for you-know-who any more, Bubbee. :wink:

The actual number of Christians are few
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A recent article in The Christian Post discussed findings by the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University that found while 61% of American millennials consider themselves to be Christian, just 2% of them were found to hold a biblical worldview. Conducted by Dr. George Barna, the study also reported that just 6% of American adults overall hold a biblical worldview.

“Profoundly disturbing”, said Barna.

While disappointing, I’ll risk having angry arrows rain down on me by saying the low percentage of Christian worldview holders makes complete biblical sense. Let me explain why.

The Hellenistic and classical Greeks actually had a word for such a thing: nomizo. The term described a type of faith held only because it was passed along by custom and tradition (e.g. by parents).

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60% of them consider themselves to be Christians, but only 2% believe in all of his particular laundry list of dogmatic axioms.
What constitutes a biblical worldview?
So how does Barna define a biblical worldview? He begins with a belief that absolute moral truths exist, and that such truth is found in the Bible, and then includes doctrines such as God being the all-powerful and all-knowing Creator of the universe, which He stills rules today; the Bible being accurate in what it says; Jesus Christ living a sinless life; salvation being a gift from God that cannot be earned; a belief in a literal Satan; and a responsibility of Christians to share their faith.
If a person doesn't agree with every one of those statements, he doesn't consider them a "Real Christian".
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Anaxagoras wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:44 pm If a person doesn't agree with every one of those statements, he doesn't consider them a "Real Christian".
That's how he's framing it based on a correlation with the real issue.

Sodomy versus non-sodomy. ;)
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In my experience Christians of all nuances always cherry-pick the points they are happy with and conveniently forget the others. And there are always "Christians" who show up at church only for baptism, marriage and death.
He seems to have a beef with the millenials, perhaps because they tend to be less religious?
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They do not believe in the Bible.

They believe in a coherent story that they want to believe is contained in the Bible.

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What Doctor X said absolutely, but sill also being a tribe rather than a faith like I said.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :p
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I had an Uncle who was devout, religious, who was also a scientist, a Doctor, a great person. He absolutely believed, since childhood, but also went about all practical matters based on science logic and reason.

Childhood indoctrination is a key ingredient in religion
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Another Uncle went through the bare minimum to not offend, but didn’t believe.

They both died and Jesus had nothing to do with either one
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This is true for you and me


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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:19 pm What Doctor X said absolutely, but sill also being a tribe rather than a faith like I said.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :p
Montaigne, amid the religious wars, said that the faith of his ancestors was good enough for him.

Just re-reading his travel diary to Italy. He makes a hilarious description of Rome & the Vatican, all pleasure, luxury coaches, and nobody working. But he's also a bit vain and thrilled to see some ecclesiastical VIPs.
One of the motivations for the journey is to have his books censored (basically they tell him "We trust you, you'll do the right thing."). Another one is to try to get rid of his kidney stones, poor chap, by drinking various mineral waters en route. (And a third to escape marital bliss. :mrgreen: )

Then he gets elected mayor of Bordeaux and has to get back. Slowly.