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If it isn't important to you to convey with clarity your actual opinion, how are you separate from a troll?
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Grayman wrote:If masturbation led to homosexuality you'd think by now I'd at least have better fashion sense.

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gnome wrote:If it isn't important to you to convey with clarity your actual opinion, how are you separate from a troll?
You also have my permission to go fuck yourself 'til it bleeds.
The most important things in life–beauty, grace, redemption, compassion, loyalty, love–are beyond the reach of reason. Which doesn’t make them any less real. Stay far back: I'm allergic to Stupid.

The simple rule, the greatest plan, that he should keep who has the power, and he should take who can.

The only enemies of guns: rust ... and politicians.

Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

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hammegk wrote:
gnome wrote:If it isn't important to you to convey with clarity your actual opinion, how are you separate from a troll?
You also have my permission to go fuck yourself 'til it bleeds.
Translation: he's more successful than the average troll.
Grayman wrote:If masturbation led to homosexuality you'd think by now I'd at least have better fashion sense.

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DrMatt wrote:
hammegk wrote:
gnome wrote:If it isn't important to you to convey with clarity your actual opinion, how are you separate from a troll?
You also have my permission to go fuck yourself 'til it bleeds.
Translation: he's more successful than the average troll.
Not this week.
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little bit more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor. Then, he used his fight money to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, and then he beat the crap out of every single one. And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a zoo! (Beat) Unless it's a farm!"
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hammegk wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote: In the context of western Christian thought, evolution with God in it is a rear-guard action by institutional religionists.
Of course intelligent theists have no problem with OEC and evolution.

The apparent teleology in all evolution, from universe-to-now cosmologically, or from first life to man, is there for all to see, whether explained as random or ordained. And abiogenesis remains unanswered by any science to date.

For schoolkids, make this plain, or don't teach it. Yeah, I know the courts have decided those provisos are a no-no. Hence the demand for private schools or home-schooling.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:BTW, Hammy, I'm still waiting for an answer of the Brown decision question.
You have thoroughly explained your reasoning on the evolution question, and now ...
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hammegk wrote:
corplinx wrote:Neglect? Its not neglect. The schools have been heavily interfered with by the union, local government, and federal government for 50 years.

The problem is, money doesn't follow the child, so schools have no incentive for improvement beyond maintaining minimums for federal funds. They are a government run monopoly that shows all the same deficits you would expect from such a position.

With the same results whenever you seem to have heavy government interference and heavy handed unions, the poor get screwed and the rich don't (since the rich send their kids to private schools).
Absolutely right, but that's what I deem the neglect. Kids no longer receive an education, which, unfortunately remains a local condition problem.

Schools everywhere have dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, and even the bright kids get screwed.
Abdul, I don't have a better way to say it.
The most important things in life–beauty, grace, redemption, compassion, loyalty, love–are beyond the reach of reason. Which doesn’t make them any less real. Stay far back: I'm allergic to Stupid.

The simple rule, the greatest plan, that he should keep who has the power, and he should take who can.

The only enemies of guns: rust ... and politicians.

Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

“Jesus loves the little cheeses, all the cheeses of the world. Swiss and Cheddar, stinky, too. If He loved them, so should you. Jesus loves the little cheeses of the world.”

I'm right 98% of the time; who cares about the other 3%?

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Hammy: Yes that much is true, but I fail to see the post hoc ergo propter hoc connection with the Brown decision.

I use the example of NYC public schools. Brown did not affect them because they were not racially segregated. For example, Thomas Sowell went to the same public school with white kids in the 1940s.

Yet the same rot has since set in there as elsewhere.

The dicking around with the curriculum was not caused by desegregation, it merely happened afterward.

I remember "new math". My schoolteacher mother made sure I learned "old math". That was around 1965 or so.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:Hammy: Yes that much is true, but I fail to see the post hoc ergo propter hoc connection with the Brown decision.

I use the example of NYC public schools. Brown did not affect them because they were not racially segregated. For example, Thomas Sowell went to the same public school with white kids in the 1940s.

Yet the same rot has since set in there as elsewhere.
Er, yes. That's my point.
The dicking around with the curriculum was not caused by desegregation, it merely happened afterward.
Er, yes, again. Brown v. just opened the door to the ever increasing and pernicious Fed cum Union regulation, students-be-damned tailored-to-the-least-teachable crap we have today.

Just another lofty libby-left-utopia equal outcomes, not equal opportunities.
The most important things in life–beauty, grace, redemption, compassion, loyalty, love–are beyond the reach of reason. Which doesn’t make them any less real. Stay far back: I'm allergic to Stupid.

The simple rule, the greatest plan, that he should keep who has the power, and he should take who can.

The only enemies of guns: rust ... and politicians.

Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

“Jesus loves the little cheeses, all the cheeses of the world. Swiss and Cheddar, stinky, too. If He loved them, so should you. Jesus loves the little cheeses of the world.”

I'm right 98% of the time; who cares about the other 3%?

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