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you all forget, we all speak bollocks on occasion

I did german at School, I have a smattering of Scots Gaelic (mountain climbing Gaelic its called). On the Irish, my mother did her exams at school in Irish, which gives you 10% automatically (dunno if its still the same) so allowing someone to get 110% in exams.

I actually hated learning another language and only got a D in the final exam, however I find I am quite able to converse in German when using it. A few years ago I was in a bar in Poland and as drunks do, ended up speaking to a polish bloke, who knew no english, and I speak no polish, but we both had german. we had a great conversation in german and drunk.

The moral of this story is that alcohol is the great linguistic leveler

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thraxas wrote:you all forget, we all speak bollocks on occasion

I did german at School, I have a smattering of Scots Gaelic (mountain climbing Gaelic its called). On the Irish, my mother did her exams at school in Irish, which gives you 10% automatically (dunno if its still the same) so allowing someone to get 110% in exams.

I actually hated learning another language and only got a D in the final exam, however I find I am quite able to converse in German when using it. A few years ago I was in a bar in Poland and as drunks do, ended up speaking to a polish bloke, who knew no english, and I speak no polish, but we both had german. we had a great conversation in german and drunk.

The moral of this story is that alcohol is the great linguistic leveler
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Spanish and Italian myself language-wise, with a smattering of other European languages plus Hebrew.

If you want a serious conversation, better make it English here. But if you are my waiter, or if we are cussing each other in an alley preparatory to a fight, I am multilingual.

I'm rusty now, but there was a time when I spoke Spanish as my every day working language. In Brooklyn, New York.

Somewhat Italian ethnically, myself.

I took Italian in college. Had to un-learn the Italian I learned at home. Being an "Italian" New York style made learning Italian in college more difficult. :D

Edited to add: In New York City and vicinity, Italianity follows the notorious "one drop rule". Elsewhere I am just plain American and white.
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Me Dad could speak a number of languages . . . as well as Me Mum . . . which means I and Me Sis were left by Space Aliens. For many years, Me Sis could not speak her native tongue, and her French teacher had her excommunicated.

In the US, unless you learn from "natives," you tend to learn the formal language by memorization. For the most part you can read, sometimes write, but suck at the spoken language. Me Dad joked about how US kids look up "dirty words," and end up saying, "Dung upon thee."

Japanese is horrible in that way. In the US you learn the formal system which no Japanese person actually speaks!

Anyways, Me Sis was abducted for a number of months and now successfully speaks a few languages.

She still cannot speak English. . . .

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Doctor X wrote: ... Japanese is horrible in that way. ...
Oh those horrible Japanese!

But they do have some reasonable words, such as 'hentai'. :P :D
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HEE!

I saw a Japanese girl talking with a Caucassian. The White-Chick had a copy of a higher-level text book than I have. The series I use is great if I had the time and someone to speak with.

I joked about that then said I can barely speak the Japanese. I thought I said, "Kowai-ne!" as in "Frightinging, yes!" but, now that I think of it, I probably pronounced it as "Kawai-ne!" as in "CUTE!" which probably explains why they both laughed!

I have a "fun" book Making Love in Japanese that explains the slang very well. The textbook I use in the later chapters actually gets into slang and "short forms" of conversation! It even tells you to start forgetting what you learned unless you are writing!

Of course, my problem is that I have no one to speak to at my level. I run into Japanese people, but I do not need to practice saying, "sumimasen" over and over!

By the way, I studied Irish for awhile. With languages, I am like Kyle of SouthPark and basketball.

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Doctor X wrote: By the way, I studied Irish for awhile. With languages, I am like Kyle of SouthPark and basketball.

Gay Lick ???? Shouldn't you be Mr./Mrs. Garrison then ?

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Fade wrote:If you speak English, there is little reason to learn any other language. I submit it's a waste of time for an American to learn another language unless they feel some kind of burning need to do so. Wherever you go, people speak English. English is becoming the language of travel and the language of business. If I were to learn, say, French.. there would be nowhere in my local life to speak it. Nobody to the north speaks it, nobody to the south, nobody to the east, and there's just water to the west. Why would I bother learning it?

I maintain that as part of a basic education, learning another language should still be mandatory. As you must surely be aware (having learned two non-native languages) learning another language helps you think about language and communication in a different way. It also helps you learn to solidify your ability to translate mental processes into symbolic communication. On a more tangible level, learning Latin, or any of the romance languages will shoot your linguistic test skills through the roof, and give you a huge edge in deciphering arcane or new phrases with which you may not be familiar.

Even if an American may have no cause to use a second language in his interaction with others, I think it's of immeasureable intellectual, and practical benefit.
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Bah, I feel bad, 18 and only know one language semi-proficiently, know enough french to find my way around but not enough to speak in anything but the simple present tense. I want to start learning something thats more interesting like German or Spanish...sorry but French is just so...passe* around here, and very few people speak french at all. More people speak Ukrainian or German around these parts then French.

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Kilted_Canuck wrote:Bah, I feel bad, 18 and only know one language semi-proficiently, know enough french to find my way around but not enough to speak in anything but the simple present tense. I want to start learning something thats more interesting like German or Spanish...sorry but French is just so...passe* around here, and very few people speak french at all. More people speak Ukrainian or German around these parts then French.
Like English isn't a language.

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You know, on ANOTHER BOARD I left, I left partly because the mods started attacking a poster for "post resurrection." Apparently this is a greater crime than posting porn or voting Democratic.

Now I could understand if the poster just added

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and other uselessness to 6 month-old threads. However, he actually had something to add. These are the SAME pedantic types who bitch to high heaven if a poster starts a thread that has any vague resemblance to one made in the last year!

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