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NPR: Yoga in School Promotes Hinduism?

I have to say that I am a bit torn on this one. There is a lot of woo in yoga, but it isn't part and parcel of yoga, and the exercises and meditation aspects can be calming and done without the woo. Also, yoga as we know it in the US, is not a part of hinduism, but part of the new age movement.

From what I read in the article, it does not seem that this yoga is teaching the kids any religion. The only specific thing mentioned was the sun salutation, which encourages the kids to thank the sun for the life it gives, which btw, isn't hinduism, but closer to sun worship if anything.

Quite honestly, I would want to see what motivates the parents to be upset about this. At a gut level, I suspect these are people who are upset because prayer isn't allowed in school, but I have nothing to base that on, and it may be my own bias.
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Scrimmage football promotes militarism. Prove me wrong!
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Trying to think of a comparison. Is there an activity with roots in Christianity that is no longer a specific religious observance?
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gnome wrote:Trying to think of a comparison. Is there an activity with roots in Christianity that is no longer a specific religious observance?
That is harder because Christianity stole so many activities from other religions and cultures.

But as yoga as practiced in the US is not related to hinduism. It is rather like claiming wrestling is pushing Ancient Greek religion.
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DrMatt wrote:Scrimmage football ...
... is a religion! :evil:
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DrMatt wrote:Scrimmage football promotes militarism. Prove me wrong!
No desire to do so. :P
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If our kid's school offered Yoga, I probably wouldn't think twice unless the instructor started teaching about "spirituality." Thanking the sun is borderline - I don't like it because it's nonsense and it implies the sun cares what I think, but it isn't quite enough to call it religion.

I'm even OK with the instructor explaining the religious origin of the exercises, as long as it's made clear that performing Yoga is not a worship exercise.
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I'm not too happy about the Sun worshipping thing, (although it makes more sense than worshipping something that doesn't exist), but otherwise, I don't really see a problem. Are the parents who are protesting fundy Xians?
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specious_reasons wrote:If our kid's school offered Yoga, I probably wouldn't think twice unless the instructor started teaching about "spirituality." Thanking the sun is borderline - I don't like it because it's nonsense and it implies the sun cares what I think, but it isn't quite enough to call it religion.

I'm even OK with the instructor explaining the religious origin of the exercises, as long as it's made clear that performing Yoga is not a worship exercise.

I think if they are going to go into the spirituality aspect then it should not be a mandatory class, which it appears to be in the school district in the article. For my kids, I had no problem with them explaining religion in regards to the origins and historical value. My problem is when they persented that as truth, and tried to get my kids to believe. Like the Socialogy teacher who showed the Ten Commandments in class because "...it depicted Egyptian culture well." Bull pucky.
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asthmatic camel wrote:I'm not too happy about the Sun worshiping thing, (although it makes more sense than worshiping something that doesn't exist), but otherwise, I don't really see a problem. Are the parents who are protesting fundy Xians?

Yes, I agree with the sun worshipping thing, but that was from a parent who disapproves, and that makes me leery. But it is the only thing she mentioned at all that smacks even marginally of religion.

It looks to that this parent really objects to the belief of the Jois Foundation's founder's belief more than anything, and therefore the yoga is tainted in her opinion.
Those looked like religious teachings to her, so she opted to keep her son out of the classes. The more Eady reads about the Jois Foundation and its founders' beliefs in the spiritual benefits of Ashtanga yoga, the more she's convinced that the poses and meditation can't be separated from their Hindu roots.
Also, she objects because the curriculum states
....that it's meant to shape the way that they view the world, it's meant to shape the way that they make life decisions," Eady says. "It's meant to shape the way that they regulate their emotions and the way that they view themselves.
, but isn't that what school does and is meant to do?
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Many exercise regimes incorporate some aspect of spirituality. I used to love karate, and the sessions always began and ended with a brief period of meditation, (not really religious in any way, although some schools go the whole woo hog and teach about "Chi", which is a load of bollocks.)

On the whole, I think if it's motivating kids to take exercise, yoga can't be a bad thing; better for them than video games...
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Define "spirituality". :BigGrin3:
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"Bullshit" normally suffices.

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If it's an excuse for yoga pants....
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I've often wondered if this sort of thing is a sort of snarky "Hey, if they can teach yoga, why can't I push school prayer on my neighbor's kids?"
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gnome wrote:I've often wondered if this sort of thing is a sort of snarky "Hey, if they can teach yoga, why can't I push school prayer on my neighbor's kids?"
That is my gut feeling, really, but I have no evidence.
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Does sleeping in schools, then, promote Catholicism?

(Based on the few services I have attended...)
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