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The British Just Banned Something Taught to Millions of American Students

The news: Teaching students that creationism is an evidence-based theory is now banned in all public schools across the United Kingdom, according to new documents from the British government. Here are the new standards, which institute a:

...requirement for every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum in any case prevents the teaching of creationism as evidence based theory in any academy or free school.

According to io9, this means any "academy or free school" in the U.K. which teaches creationism to students would be breaking its funding agreement with the government. Academies are roughly equivalent to charter schools in the U.S., while "free schools" are nonprofit independent schools funded by taxpayer dollars, which can be organized by parents, teachers, charities and businesses. The new language updates a 2012 rule which required all future free schools that teach the theory of natural selection alone to include academies and all existing free schools.

This means that the U.K. is on track to more or less completely end the practice of teaching creationism in publicly funded schools. However, it does permit creationism and other beliefs about the origin of the Earth and life to be taught in classes on religion, so long as they are not presented as valid alternatives to scientific theory. While there are further reforms needed in other educational sectors across the U.K., it looks like the biggest step toward getting religion out of taxpayer-funded science classes has just been accomplished.

Contrast that to the U.S.: In the U.S., some $1 billion in taxpayer funding across 14 states goes to private schools. Earlier this year, Politico reported that those private schools included "hundreds of religious schools that teach Earth is less than 10,000 years old, Adam and Eve strolled the garden with dinosaurs and much of modern biology, geology and cosmology is a web of lies."
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It's not legally taught to US students (in government schools). Merely that the Christian fundies keep sneaking it in and getting slapped down. But that doesn't stop them of course.

The Christian fundies will do that in the UK now.

And the Muslims will simply ignore it and not be called to account.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:It's not legally taught to US students (in government schools). Merely that the Christian fundies keep sneaking it in and getting slapped down. But that doesn't stop them of course.

The Christian fundies will do that in the UK now.

And the Muslims will simply ignore it and not be called to account.
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Not too sure about the Muslims, patience with them seems to be running out.
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asthmatic camel wrote:Not too sure about the Muslims, patience with them seems to be running out.
Really?

What're y'all gonna do?
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You were asking about Cameron and "British values" elsewhere. It's largely as a result of the "Trojan Horse" scandal in Birmingham that he's banging on about them.
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asthmatic camel wrote:You were asking about Cameron and "British values" elsewhere. It's largely as a result of the "Trojan Horse" scandal in Birmingham that he's banging on about them.
Thanks for the info.
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Imagine! The GOVERNMENT dictating what constitutes a quality education! Socialists!!! Marxists!!!!

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Finally, the British can teach the single truth about their origins.
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It's now an offence to force your children to marry as well, max sentence seven years.

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Don't know if it'll make much difference but it's a step in the right direction.
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clarsct wrote:Imagine! The GOVERNMENT dictating what constitutes a quality education! Socialists!!! Marxists!!!!

:twisted:
If it keeps crap like creationism out of science lessons, put me down for a red flag.
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asthmatic camel wrote:
clarsct wrote:Imagine! The GOVERNMENT dictating what constitutes a quality education! Socialists!!! Marxists!!!!

:twisted:
If it keeps crap like creationism out of science lessons, put me down for a red flag.
Red flag? Sounds bad.
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asthmatic camel wrote:If it keeps crap like creationism out of science lessons, put me down for a red flag.
Meaning the Labor ... I mean Labour Party? :BigGrin3:
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asthmatic camel wrote:
clarsct wrote:Imagine! The GOVERNMENT dictating what constitutes a quality education! Socialists!!! Marxists!!!!

:twisted:
If it keeps crap like creationism out of science lessons, put me down for a red flag.

Needs a sarcasm tag.....we really should invent one. Maybe red italics or something.....
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This is good. Creationism is an arbitrary ideology that relies on faith and belief - alike to believing in Santa Claus. There is no empirical evidence to suggest that any aspect surrounding creationism holds water and hence there is no reason to teach a specific personal belief system to a classroom. Evolution has been empirically proven - we have transitional fossils, anatomical evidence, DNA evidence, and we have even observed evolution in action with the propagation of MRSA and new influenza strains.

Empirical evidence holds much more water than implausible statements from manuscripts dated back millennia.
The Bible is very metaphorical. It should not be taken in a purely literal sense and with a pinch of salt. The men and women back in those days must've been bored off their arses and had nothing better to do but slam a bunch of fantasy into their stories.
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America broke away from Britain before Darwin published his evolution theory. They will be damned if they reunite with Britain over evolution.

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clarsct wrote:
asthmatic camel wrote:
clarsct wrote:Imagine! The GOVERNMENT dictating what constitutes a quality education! Socialists!!! Marxists!!!!

:twisted:
If it keeps crap like creationism out of science lessons, put me down for a red flag.

Needs a sarcasm tag.....we really should invent one. Maybe red italics or something.....
It is the way you type it. . . .

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Harikrish wrote:America broke away from Britain before Darwin published his evolution theory. They will be damned if they reunite with Britain over evolution.
Have no fear, with all the immigration going on with David Cameron in power, Sharia Law will come into full power; with daily reading of the Qu'ran being mandatory in all British schools.
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clarsct wrote:Needs a sarcasm tag.....we really should invent one. Maybe red italics or something.....
:wink:
Where tone of voice is particularly critical to meaning, and facial expression and body language are inadequate to convey the tone, the use of '(!)' and '(?)' immediately following speech can indicate sarcasm and irony as shown below:

No, no. You're not late (!)
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