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And the food needs an upgrade!

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu ... rotesting/
Oberlin College Students Protest The Cafeteria Food Not Being “Culturally Accurate” Enough, Demand To Be Paid An Hourly Wage For Their Protesting
The Oberlin College Black Student Union has released a list of 50 “Institutional Demands” for the school, including one that orders it to pay black students who organize protests $8.20 per hour for doing so.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... r-document

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Extensive news article:

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2015 ... stitution/
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Who knows. It's free money. Compared to the rest of the demands it's peanuts.

This is going to continue until colleges start calling their bluff.
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Oberlin is Dr. Matt's alma mater, right?

Lena Dunham's too.

I notice they are also demanding that certain professors be given tenure "immediately" and others be "guaranteed" tenure. Wonder who's behind those demands?
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Jumping Jeebus, just read the list of demands.
a. We also DEMAND the hiring of Black healers/ non western health practitioners because not everyone finds comfort and healing solely from a psychologist.
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Simple solution: "Get the fuck off of campus!"

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Add to that: "Come back only when you're serious about continuing your education. Until then, bugger!"
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15. We DEMAND a change in the fundamental ways that we assess knowledge at this institution, starting with a student evaluation of the effectiveness of the grading system. We will have oversight over the results of that evaluation.
a. If the results state that the grading system is not reflective of this institution's student body, we DEMAND an immediate change of that grading system.
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Yea, that's gonna work.

Inmates running the asylum.
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Back sassin'?
Get the wax outta your ears!

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There's a list of demands here: http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/12/ob ... mand-list/
Dunno if it's legit.
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Witness wrote:There's a list of demands here: http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/12/ob ... mand-list/
Dunno if it's legit.
It appears to be real and the demands appear to be serious. Though it reads like Onion satire. I can't help but feel I'm being Poe'd.
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What? You doubt the sincerity of the DEMAND that more black students be recruited into the Jazz Department?
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The only demand there that seems halfway reasonable is the demand that students who are there to learn jazz not be required to study classical music. Because students who are there to learn classical music aren't required to study jazz.

Most all of the other demands would cost a considerable amount of money to implement.
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My guess is that at least some of the absurd demands are intended to generate free publicity.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:Over by Democratic Underground:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251929790

Synopsis: Grown up lefties unimpressed. 8)
Hmm, took a look. Note that the thread has been locked by a mod:
This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Chemisse (a host of the General Discussion: Primaries forum).
The other thing is that the complaints about the food do not seem to be on the list of demands. They are a separate issue. These were individuals who wrote in to the campus newspaper to complain about the food issues, not the black students' union with their list of demands.
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The college trustees have taken action:

http://news.oberlin.edu/articles/statem ... ry-degree/
Statement on Rescinding Honorary Degree
by Communications Staff Dec. 16, 2015

To the Oberlin community:

At the December 4, 2015 meeting of the Oberlin College Board of Trustees, the Board decided to rescind the honorary doctorate of humanities presented to Mr. William Cosby in 2010. Mr. Cosby’s admitted actions are not congruent with Oberlin College’s commitment to supporting survivors of sexualized violence, as reflected in its sexual misconduct policy, and do not epitomize the high standards Oberlin considers in awarding honorary degrees.

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Here somebody has a quite different take on the subject. In a nutshell:
At their best, colleges should provide the chance for students to experiment with activism. Pushing for change from an institution of any type or size—be it a city government, a college administration, or a police force—is a complicated and risky endeavor. Better to build skills and try out tactics and messages when the stakes are as low as some bad sushi than to enter the post-college world never having organized around anything.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... st/421674/

Depends on what you think colleges are "for".
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As has been noted by learned others on this forum, "Good luck with that in the job market."
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Pyrrho wrote:As has been noted by learned others on this forum, "Good luck with that in the job market."
Community organizer is the degree they're after, if not in name then certainly in principle. Like Obama. :)

I suppose actually getting a community organizer job is a little like getting a place on team in the NFL.

But contrary to popular belief, McDonald's hires over qualified Liberal Arts majors. But bar tenders need at least a minor in mixology.
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:President Obama may have been a "community organizer" at some point on his way up, but that is not what his degree is in, nor is that a career position. :p
You sure about that?
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Rob Lister wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:President Obama may have been a "community organizer" at some point on his way up, but that is not what his degree is in, nor is that a career position. :p
You sure about that?
It's not even a job title in most cases.
It's what politicians do on their way up. Mostly small time local politicians, but every so often ...
Rob Lister wrote:Community organizer is the degree they're after, if not in name then certainly in principle. Like Obama. :)
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Abdul Alhazred wrote:So it's casuistry now, is it? :evil:
NO. Now give me those melted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked me out of.
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Martin Luther King was essentially a "community organizer" wasn't he?

Depending on how you define it, one could say the same about the founding fathers. Revolutions take "organizing" of the "community".
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Anaxagoras wrote:Martin Luther King was essentially a "community organizer" wasn't he?
No.
Depending on how you define it, one could say the same about the founding fathers. Revolutions take "organizing" of the "community".
No.

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Pyrrho wrote:As has been noted by learned others on this forum, "Good luck with that in the job market."
The networking one achieved at tony college places one in executive ranks who determine job market rather than worry about it. :tater: :cowbell: :tater:
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"It was the criticisms of Doc X, actually, that let me see more clearly how far the hypocrisy had gone." – clarsct
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