## And you thought some teachers in the US were bad...

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Azraphael
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### And you thought some teachers in the US were bad...

Just came across this short news bite:

http://www.pulse24.com/News/Strange_But ... 1/page.asp

It's short, so I'll quote the whole thing:
This story is strange, disturbing and true. A school principal in Japan has publicly admitted that a teacher made a teenage student write out an apology in blood after nodding off in class. The teacher has since given his own, less violent apology to the 17-year-old and his family, after going to principal Hiroaki Dan and confessing to his frightening punishment. The pupil was apparently taken to the staff room after falling asleep in class, given a box-cutter, a piece of paper and told to write up his apology. And that is exactly what the boy did after cutting his finger. The teen hasn’t asked for a different teacher though, and the educator is expected to be back in class soon.
Anyone other than me find the statement 'the educator is expected to be back in class soon' to be particularly disturbing?

~Azraphael
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rwald
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Shit. If my high-school teachers did that, I'd be a hemophiliac.
For the record, I don't actually know anything. Not even this.

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LostAngeles
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rwald wrote:Shit. If my high-school teachers did that, I'd be a hemophiliac.
Shit, I'd have been dead by sophomore year.

Jeff
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What happens if they get caught cheating? Seppuku? Hari-kari?
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latinijral
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I like to wath the TV program "Who wants to be supermillionaire"

I remember a teacher that won $500000 but he never knew the answers of questions of threads with no relation with USA. WHen I was a kid I went for a day to the school of my cousin. I remember the teacher had not idea about Southamerica when she introduce me to the class. My conclution is that the USA education is only worry to teach about USA and not give a general culture about the world. I love you all !!! Pure skeptic Jeff Posts: 405 Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:01 pm latinijral wrote:I like to wath the TV program "Who wants to be supermillionaire" I remember a teacher that won$ 500000 but he never knew the answers of questions of threads with no relation with USA.

WHen I was a kid I went for a day to the school of my cousin.

I remember the teacher had not idea about Southamerica when she introduce me to the class.

My conclution is that the USA education is only worry to teach about USA and not give a general culture about the world.
My conclusions are that:
1. You watch silly TV shows that prove nothing.
2. You come to conclusions based on little data.
3. You know little about the range of the subjects taught in the US.
Here is a question for you.
Why do people from all over the world strive to come here to get an education?

MRC_Hans
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Jeff wrote:
latinijral wrote:I like to wath the TV program "Who wants to be supermillionaire"

I remember a teacher that won $500000 but he never knew the answers of questions of threads with no relation with USA. WHen I was a kid I went for a day to the school of my cousin. I remember the teacher had not idea about Southamerica when she introduce me to the class. My conclution is that the USA education is only worry to teach about USA and not give a general culture about the world. My conclusions are that: 1. You watch silly TV shows that prove nothing. 2. You come to conclusions based on little data. 3. You know little about the range of the subjects taught in the US. Here is a question for you. Why do people from all over the world strive to come here to get an education? 4. If education is better where you come from, how come your English is so bad? Hans [i]Fly pretty, anyone can fly safe...[/i] CHARLEY_BIGTIME MRC_Hans wrote: 4. If education is better where you come from, how come your English is so bad? Hans Not the best conclusion to come to in my opinion. His English is much, much better than my Danish. My/his inability to speak a certain foreign language fluently is not necessarily indicative of a poor education. latinijral Posts: 488 Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:27 am Location: In your heart Jeff wrote: latinijral wrote:I like to wath the TV program "Who wants to be supermillionaire" I remember a teacher that won$ 500000 but he never knew the answers of questions of threads with no relation with USA.

WHen I was a kid I went for a day to the school of my cousin.

I remember the teacher had not idea about Southamerica when she introduce me to the class.

My conclution is that the USA education is only worry to teach about USA and not give a general culture about the world.
My conclusions are that:
1. You watch silly TV shows that prove nothing.
2. You come to conclusions based on little data.
3. You know little about the range of the subjects taught in the US.
Here is a question for you.
Why do people from all over the world strive to come here to get an education?
Relax Jeff
I was on my schools vacation and my family travel to California...I met Disneyland, but also I went only for a day to this American School.
1,. That "silly" program sometimes shows in some questions the culture of a kind of persons.,...in this case a teacher.
2.- You are OK....but I also have some american friends that give the same commnet that their education is egocentrist.(egocentrista).
3.- You are OK....but I dont see the problem.
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MRC_Hans
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CHARLEY_BIGTIME wrote:
MRC_Hans wrote: 4. If education is better where you come from, how come your English is so bad?

Hans
Not the best conclusion to come to in my opinion.

His English is much, much better than my Danish. My/his inability to speak a certain foreign language fluently is not necessarily indicative of a poor education.
Uhh, except that Danish is an obscure language that only a few millions speak, and thus totally uninteresting to most of the world, whereas English is the leading international language, and sort of a must if you want to participate on an English forum.

But I do concede that it was an ad hominem. Any exchange with latinijral rarely rises above ad hominem level. So I ought to simply stay out, and usually do, but it is human occasionally to fall for temptation .

Hans
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Carlos
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I was an exchange student in USA in 1969.
!0 th grade high school. Long Island , New York.

When students or teachers asked me where did I come from , I responded from Ecuador.

Most of them said after that : "Wow, from Africa !"

Some of them : "it is not supposed to be the "line" that divides the hemispheres?

My response : Ecuador is in South America. In your same continent. Let me show you where is it....let's look to the map.

----------Ohhhh , there?

And why you are dressing that way?
It is not supposed to be primitive indians living there ?
How come you speak english?

-----ehhhh , well ...........

Thanks,
Carlos

Quester_X
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My response : Ecuador is in South America. In your same continent. Let me show you where is it....let's look to the map.
Just want to point out that North and South America are seperate continents, although they share a land connection.
You'll all be mine, in the end.

Carlos
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Quester_X wrote:
My response : Ecuador is in South America. In your same continent. Let me show you where is it....let's look to the map.
Just want to point out that North and South America are seperate continents, although they share a land connection.
I want to point out that the name of the continent is America.

It is geographically(..) divided is 3 zones : North , Central and South.

Thanks,
Carlos

P.S.
Are you talking about the artificial Panama channel?

Quester_X
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I want to point out that the name of the continent is America.

It is geographically(..) divided is 3 zones : North , Central and South.

Thanks,
Carlos

P.S.
Are you talking about the artificial Panama channel
No, North and South America lie on different tectonic plates. Only recently in geologic time have they collided to form one land mass. They are seperate continents, although they are now linked. I was not considering the Panama canal, because that is man-made and did not naturally occur.
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Jeff
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From the web page "New York State Test Prep Social Studies 5 (Grade 3)"
"There are seven continents. They are North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia/Oceania, and Antartica."

Quester_X
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From the web page "New York State Test Prep Social Studies 5 (Grade 3)"
"There are seven continents. They are North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia/Oceania, and Antartica."
Thank you, Jeff. That's what I believed. I am glad that you were able to find a good resource to back me up. I appriciate it.
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Jeff
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It seems that when our amigo was an exchange student on LI, he missed third grade Social Studies. Or he went to Roslyn High. (local joke)

latinijral
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Carlos wrote:
Quester_X wrote:
My response : Ecuador is in South America. In your same continent. Let me show you where is it....let's look to the map.
Just want to point out that North and South America are seperate continents, although they share a land connection.
I want to point out that the name of the continent is America.

It is geographically(..) divided is 3 zones : North , Central and South.

Thanks,
Carlos

P.S.
Are you talking about the artificial Panama channel?
Quester X is a good example of the poor education they recieve in schools------this guy thinks that North and South America are different continents...that share a land concection that is Central America.
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Quester_X
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Quester X is a good example of the poor education they recieve in schools------this guy thinks that North and South America are different continents...that share a land concection that is Central America.
Excuse me? First of all, I am not a guy. Secondly, as Jeff's outside resources show, North and South America are seperate continents. IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THEY SHARE A LAND CONNECTION. Continents are defined by the tectonic plates that they lie upon. North and South America lie on different tectonic plates. Central America is considered to be a part of the North American continent. Therefore, they are seperate continents. For the same reason, Asia and Europe are considered seperate contients, despite the fact that they are also connected. Didn't you take basic social studies or geography? You should know this already, I learned it in Middle School.

Furthermore, I'll have you know I graduated High School with a 4.2 GPA, and am attending a very academically rigorous private college. I have a very good education. I have been nothing but polite with you and Carlos in this conversation, and I'll thank you to refrain from insults in the future. ESPECIALLY when you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
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