Man stops his brainwaves (video)

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Man stops his brainwaves (video)

Post by joyrex » Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:48 pm

Here..

http://www.integralnaked.org/news/index.aspx

In case the above link changes to some other article,

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It could always be a fake, but I suspect it isn't. I wonder how common this kind of "skill" is - and what does it prove, if anything.

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Post by Yahweh » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:25 pm

Did he die?
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Post by Sock » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:55 pm

Watch his hands during the experiment. The wires are always in his hands. And just before he lays down (at about the two and a half minute mark), he fiddles with the keyboard with his left hand while his back is to the camera. When he sits back up and tries to make his brain waves stop with his eyes open, you can see him grab a potentiometer that was on his stomach and adjust it with the index finger and thumb of his right hand in the foreground of the video.

When he lays back down again, the potentiometer is still in his clenched right hand. Watch his fingers as he breathes.

He makes it difficult to catch on to what he is doing by freezing the picture.

I had to blow the video up to full screen size, and its a little blurry, but you can make out his fingers manipulating the potentiometer.
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Post by roger » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:58 pm

I would believe it if my friend who does EEG measurements for a living at a epilepsy center at a hospital, did the measurements. There's a lot more to doing an EEG than hooking up some leads. That machine looks like a toy.

edited to add: and ohh! what luke said!

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Post by Bruce » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:23 pm

Big deal. I can stop my brainwaves just by listening to any republican talk-radio program.
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Post by exarch » Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:10 am

roger wrote:I would believe it if my friend who does EEG measurements for a living at a epilepsy center at a hospital, did the measurements. There's a lot more to doing an EEG than hooking up some leads. That machine looks like a toy.

edited to add: and ohh! what luke said!
Well, how do we even know that IS an EEG machine? How do we know it's really connected to the electrodes on his head?
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Post by SquishyDave » Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:36 am

How do we know he even exists. :shock:
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Post by DrMatt » Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:57 pm

Sock wrote:Watch his hands during the experiment. The wires are always in his hands. And just before he lays down (at about the two and a half minute mark), he fiddles with the keyboard with his left hand while his back is to the camera. When he sits back up and tries to make his brain waves stop with his eyes open, you can see him grab a potentiometer that was on his stomach and adjust it with the index finger and thumb of his right hand in the foreground of the video.

When he lays back down again, the potentiometer is still in his clenched right hand. Watch his fingers as he breathes.

He makes it difficult to catch on to what he is doing by freezing the picture.

I had to blow the video up to full screen size, and its a little blurry, but you can make out his fingers manipulating the potentiometer.
The meter shown has nothing to do with systems used in actual neurology, which make meaningful patterns over longish periods of time like 1 second or more--requiring thousands of samples per second, i.e. a graph rather than a current status. The video doesn't show enough of his head to show the spots that can only be reached by shaving off hair. But the meters show exaggerated change--including in the Theta group which he's saying are INACTIVE--every time he pauses to take a breath. If the thing is hooked up to the skin of his head at all, it's hooked up just above the base of his neck.

Looks to me like a routine e-meter demonstration.

I agree about the death thing. Shutting down the electrical activity from the autonomous nervous system tends to shut down breathing, digestion, and other vital functions.
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