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I just made it up.

I have no idea what it means. Here's yur purfect opportinity xoup. Claim it as your own now. Or, perhaps, you and WC can split the difference?
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sparks wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:41 pm I just made it up.

I have no idea what it means. Here's yur purfect opportinity xoup. Claim it as your own now. Or, perhaps, you and WC can split the difference?
Sorry, I was not complaining. I think it is a perfectly cromulent word.

Furthermore, I would not think of taking credit away from where credit is due.

I had assumed you made it up, and I was playing along, lobbing you a softball question so you could have even more fun with it. Perhaps I should have known better than to do that while you are in a pissy mood.
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Pissy mood.

Indeed.
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The Internet can make you cranky
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Can?
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Witness wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:08 am
sparks wrote: Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:46 pmMy money's on Globalistic Warming.
After a "winter" practically without snow we had 17 °C today. :x
"C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
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Centigrade makes far more sense than does Fahrenfuck ever did.
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ed wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm "C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
Of course a Dutch–German–Polish scale setting freezing water at 32 and boiling at 212 is infinitely more logical and convenient, no doubt.

That being agreed upon, we hit 291 K some days ago. Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:37 pm
sparks wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 pm Centigrade makes far more sense than does Fahrenfuck ever did.
Celsius just as culture bound, geocentric, and typically German as Fahrenheit.

Or are we in "The Goddess of Reason is proud of Her ten fingers" territory?
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Witness wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:18 am
ed wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm "C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
Of course a Dutch–German–Polish scale setting freezing water at 32 and boiling at 212 is infinitely more logical and convenient, no doubt.

That being agreed upon, we hit 291 K some days ago. Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?
Living in Japan, it took me a while to get used to the units they use here without trying to convert them back into the ones I grew up with.

Yen are actually pretty easy. I realize of course that the actual exchange rate varies, but that's not important in daily life, so 1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.

For temperatures, just remember 20C. 20C is pretty much perfect for being comfortable during normal activities (68F for Americans). 10C or less is cold, 30C is too hot, like a hot summer day. Anything over 24C is hotter than I like it. And less than 15, you'll probably want at least a light jacket.
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C is good because 0 is freezing and 100 is boiling for water at standard pressure. This is why we like this scale. It fucking works.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 am1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.
Older people in Algeria still converted 1 dinar ~ 1 franc (pre-euro) = 100 "anciens francs", did their computation, then converted back.
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sparks wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:11 am C is good because 0 is freezing and 100 is boiling for water at standard pressure. This is why we like this scale. It fucking works.
Why does that make it better? Half the useful divisions of Freedomheit!
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:00 am
Witness wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:18 am
ed wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:57 pm "C"????????????? WTF is that in American :x :x :x :x
...

Yen are actually pretty easy. I realize of course that the actual exchange rate varies, but that's not important in daily life, so 1 dollar = 100 yen, 1 yen = 1 penny. Easy.
When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.
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Rob Lister wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:10 pm
When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.
When the yen was at its strongest a few years ago it was up to about 80/dollar. Now it's back over 100, but it's been on both sides of 100 a few times. When I first got to Japan in 92 I was shocked by how expensive some things were outside the base. 5 bucks for a soft drink at some restaurants, for example. I take it it wasn't like that in your day?

It's actually better now, that was right after the infamous "bubble" when Japanese people were spending money like drunken sailors, so you could get away with prices like that.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm
Rob Lister wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:10 pm
When I was there it hovered between 210 and 230, so I just halved everything.
When the yen was at its strongest a few years ago it was up to about 80/dollar. Now it's back over 100, but it's been on both sides of 100 a few times. When I first got to Japan in 92 I was shocked by how expensive some things were outside the base. 5 bucks for a soft drink at some restaurants, for example. I take it it wasn't like that in your day?
It was like that when I was there. While the exchange rate was better, most things were still twice as expensive. A counter-meal of chicken fried rice was about 1000yen, or $5. A Suntory, 500y. That was a lot for an E3 in '78.

That same beer could have been had on base for about a buck.

Clubs were out of the question until I got a chubby girlfriend with thick ankles who usually paid my way. Lots of stories about her.

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Removal of spent nuclear fuel postponed again
Eight years on, water woes threaten Fukushima cleanup
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Oh yeah, today is 8 years since the tsunami.
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I'll raise my glass to the melt-throughs in a day or two. :) Alvin Weinberg is spinning in his grave.
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Anaxagoras wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:42 am Oh yeah, today is 8 years since the tsunami.
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So, what's the death toll so far?
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Fackler, reporting for the Times, wrote that “Japan’s political leaders at first did not know about the [SPEEDI] system and later played down the data, apparently fearful of having to significantly enlarge the evacuation zone—and acknowledge the accident’s severity.” Whatever the motives, the withholding of data, critics say, put unsuspecting citizens into harm’s way, and the result was a further erosion of public trust.

There were other, similarly fateful decisions. Brumfiel noted the rush by some affected prefectures, in the days following the disaster, to pronounce their local rice and fish safe to eat—and subsequent findings of contamination in those same foodstuffs. Even more damaging, he said, was the government’s unexplained—and seemingly arbitrary—raising of safe radiation-exposure levels for schoolchildren, from 1 millisievert to 20 millisieverts per year (see Page 20).
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So what's the death toll so far?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima ... casualties

573.

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your link sez 0. But I think there is 1

But 573 is certainly acceptable. That's like 2 737 crashes.
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My mistake.

Now piss off. :)
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MULTIPLE REACTOR EXPLOSIONS, MELTDOWNS AT FUEL POOL
Multiple vapor and hydrogen explosions and a loss of cooling functions at the six reactors at Tokyo Electric Power Co’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant lead to radiation leaks and reactor failures.

Thousands of spent fuel rods, crammed into cooling pools at the plant, melt and mix with concrete, then fall to the lower level of the buildings.

CHAIN OF EVENTS
In a possible domino effect, a hydrogen explosion at one reactor forces workers to evacuate due to high levels of radiation, halting cooling operations at all reactors and spent fuel pools. Reactors and cooling pools suffer serious damage and radiation leaks.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japa ... 9120120217
The brutal reality of the situation in March 2011 was that it was no longer a question of managing a crisis, applying established procedures or rolling out plan A or plan B. Day after agonising day, the Fukushima Daiichi power plant was an island, plunged into darkness, without electricity or emergency diesel generators, and almost completely devoid of resources.

Largely left to their own devices, Yoshida and the plant's staff risked their lives at every moment. Wearing stiflingly hot protective wear and buffeted by aftershocks, they searched for slightest sound or visual clue in the absence of measurement data. Groping around the labyrinth of the ruined plant, they sought, more or less with success, to protect themselves from radioactive contamination in order to continue their work.

During the hearings, Yoshida confided his fears, doubts and beliefs. He lauded the commitment of his colleagues inside the plant, even as he deplored the absence or incompetence of those outside – Tepco headquarters, the government, the regulatory authority, and so on.

The emotional intensity of his account is both striking and moving. It shatters the all-too-bureaucratic certitudes that underestimate the complexities of situations, to the point of ignoring our humanity: the workers were facing the possibility of their own deaths and, above all, the deaths of their colleagues, their families and everything dear to them.

Almost miraculously, after four days of desperate efforts, the worst – the explosion of the Daiichi reactors, which could have set off those at the close-by Daini and Onagawa plants as well – was narrowly avoided. Yet we have learnt almost nothing from this catastrophe, and the much larger one that was averted.]/quote]
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March 16, 20117:43 PM ET
Britain's The Telegraph has obtained new leaked cables from WikiLeaks that reveal the International Atomic Agency warned Japan in 2008 that their nuclear plants were ill-prepared to handle a major earthquake.

They told Japan that their plants were "out of date" and would cause "serious problems" if faced with a strong earthquake.
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It was that really great idea of putting the backup power generators in the basement so's the tidal wave could more easily drown them. :)
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True that. Center of gravity and all that.
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Somehow on my Twitter feed all kinds of Fukushima related shit just showed up today. Serious whistleblower, scientific expert warnings and shit like that. It was a bit disturbing, so I did what all good sheeple do. I just ignored it and asked aloud, "How many died?", and then forgot all about it.
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So what was the answer? Was it 1?
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0.

It is what happens on Twat'er from time to time. Old news resurfaces as new ... news.

However, one of the plant cleanup workers dropped dead about a week ago from a heart attack. No connection to radiation exposure has been established so, as you were.
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Weeeeeeeeell Shoot! See? Now no one will be able to drive those for 10,000 years!!!



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Unclear debris map casts shadow over decommissioning of Fukushima plant

TOKYO -- The government and Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) are set to launch full-scale probes of the inside of the No. 1 through No. 3 reactors at the disaster-stricken Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station this fiscal year, in an attempt to determine which reactor to work on first to remove fuel debris -- a critical step for decommissioning the facility.

However, the interior of the No. 2 reactor, which is most likely to be the first to go through the debris removal process, has turned out to be different from what had originally been expected, underscoring the difficulties entailing the removal work. Since many companies are involved in the process, how to pass down the know-how acquired over the course of the more than 30 year-decommissioning process also poses a challenge.

"At present, it is difficult to clearly say we are going to remove all fuel debris," said Akira Ono, who leads the decommissioning project, at a regular press conference by TEPCO on March 28, while noting that the utility will not back down from its ultimate goal of full debris removal.
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