Fukushima one year on

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Interesting historical podcast about this:


https://timharford.com/etc/more-or-less/

Look for the episode called "A Tsunami of Misery"
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That was a good one. Thanks Anax!
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Japan to release treated Fukushima water into sea: reports

Japan will release more than a million tonnes of treated water from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant into the sea in a decades-long operation, reports said Friday, despite strong opposition from local fishermen.

The release of the water, which has been filtered to reduce radioactivity, is likely to start in 2022 at the earliest, said national dailies the Nikkei, the Yomiuri, and other local media.

The decision ends years of debate over how to dispose of the liquid that includes water used to cool the power station hit by a massive tsunami in 2011.

A government panel said earlier this year that releasing the water into the sea or evaporating it were both "realistic options".

As of last month, there were 1.23 million tonnes of waste water at the facility, the Nikkei reported.

Environmental activists have expressed strong opposition to the proposals, and fishermen and farmers have voiced fear that consumers will shun seafood and produce from the region.

South Korea, which bans imports of seafood from the area, has also repeatedly voiced concern about the environmental impact.

Japan's government has been deliberating the issue for more than three years, but a decision is becoming urgent as space to store the water -- which also includes groundwater and rain that seeps daily into the plant -- is running out.
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Like every nuclear disaster, it will never actually be cleaned up
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Oh. The snorkeling of an asshat from The Cornfield.

How charming.
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robinson wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:19 am
sparks wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:31 pm One more time and then I'm done with this fucking thread:
No, you will never be done with it. Just like Japan will never be done with the Fukushima disaster.
The Windscale reactor disaster of 10 October 1957 isn’t safe or cleaned up. And it was minor compared to all three of the ruined reactors at Fukushima, which had complete meltdowns, and explosions


Windscale was 63 years ago, and they don’t have even a plan to make it safe. It is of course still undergoing nuclear reactions, and of course far too dangerous to open up and do anything with the damaged fuel inside.

But the true believer will tell you it’s no big deal, nuclear is safer than anything, and the only reason you wouldn’t agree with them is ....


Hmmmm


What’s the reason again?
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Three mile island is just sitting there, the basement so contaminated they don’t dare try to do anything with it.

Same with all the sites where they take the dangerous waste to store it, no plan to make any of it safe.
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More bullshit from The Cornfield.
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sparks wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:31 pm One more time and then I'm done with this fucking thread:
sparks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:29 am More bullshit from The Cornfield.
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robinson wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:07 am
sparks wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:31 pm One more time and then I'm done with this fucking thread:
sparks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:29 am More bullshit from The Cornfield.
Saved for posterity. :cowbell:
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You both may go fuck yourselves. :)
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I think we hit a nerve
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sparks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:05 pm You both may go fuck yourselves. :)
I don't know how to do that. Show me how. :cowbell:
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He should of said "go fuck each other", but oh well
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Abdul Alhazred wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:37 pm
sparks wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:05 pm You both may go fuck yourselves. :)
I don't know how to do that. Show me how. :cowbell:
I don't doubt that you do not know how to fuck off. Each of your tripe filled posts indicate this fact. However, I cannot bring you forth from your ignorance: Each must find his own way grasshopper. :D
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All I gotta say is, sparks has a difficult time staying on topic. :p
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sparks needs some state of mind modifying substances:

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So I'll have one to his health right now. :)
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The radioactive water problem is what really gets medical people to sound alarms

Well, ever since they banned atmospheric testing of course. Spreading really dangerous shit through the atmosphere is bad, but in reality it was also a water problem, since rain and snow were going to cause it to end up eventually on forest, pastures, farms, cities, lakes and the oceans.

Ice caps, glaciers and rivers, and of course playgrounds, parks and even rich peoples backyards.

Most don’t understand how dangerous the material created in a reactor core is. This is not by chance, and even if you prove it beyond all doubt, for some unexplainable reason it doesn’t change anything.

During WWII when the race to build the bomb was on, a big concern in England was the fuel material itself being used as a weapon, even before Hitlers scientists could makes bomb. The troop staging for the assault at Normandy in England were concentrated, and nuclear scientists calculated the risk from the Nazis using powdered core material as a weapon against them.

This is historical record now. One pound dispersed as fine powder from the air was calculated to kill or incapacitate 50,000 men.

Breathing in spent reactor fuel rod material is really really bad.

Dumping it into the ocean is a lot less dangerous, and that Japan is going to have to do it tells us just how fucked things are. Even with all the resources and technology and money you can’t take the dangerous shit dissolved in water and remove it and make the water safe.

If they could, they sure as shit wouldn’t be planning on polluting their fishing areas (and the rest of the worlds) with radioactive material that is going to bioaccumulate into everything, but especially tuna fish
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Just for fun, do you know why they stop using fuel rods in a reactor?

You know, after a period of time they remove them and add new ones. The used ones are called spent fuel rods.

They are the dangerous ones, that have to be kept cool and safe for at least 10,000 years

Why don’t they keep using them? They certainly produce heat, even with no fissioning they are hot.


Since I know nobody reading this knows, I won’t waste your time waiting for an answer that will never arrive.
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I knew nobody would respond,


Why do they stop using fuel rods if 95% of the energy in them is still in them?

Good luck finding out by Googling


The nuclear cheerleaders think it’s not that dangerous, which is not by chance. A lot of effort and time and money has been spent trying to get you to believe reactors and the spent fuel isn’t really that bad. Which is complete and utter bullshit

If the Nazis had used Plutonium as a weapon, a pound of it finely powdered and spread in the air could easily kill 2 million people

Because breathing it in is sure death

But it takes longer

Of course at the time they didn’t even know about using cobalt, which is the ultimate fuck you

Just one gram spread over a square kilo is enough to kill everything

And there is radiocesium, which because of it’s solubility and bioaccumulation in the pancreases, a pound of it is enough to kill everyone on the planet, and everything else along with us

Of course you would have to make sure everyone got their 50 billionths of a gram dose, which is not likely

But there are tons of radiocesium in a reactor core

And in spent fuel rods
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