The most efficient method of wiping out humanity?

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The most efficient method of wiping out humanity?

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Note that this is purely hypothetical. I will not be taking any of the following opinion into account personally.
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First, a note: here's what I see when I read your posts.
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Germ warfare is probably the most efficient of wiping out the vast majority. And we [probably] have the science and technical ability to pull that off. You'll need to do some mopping up though. Even then, you wouldn't get them all. You'd have to get the number down below what can reasonably be expected to repopulate. I have no idea what that number is.

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Start a little less ambitious.

Think of something like the Nazi death factories, but apply modern "green" industrial methods.

I mention the Nazis rather than the Communists, because the Communists made an even worse environmental mess killing millions old fashioned way.

If not distracted by fighting a war against all your enemies at once, you could probably kill many times more than the Nazis did and catch up to the Communists and then some.

The gassing bit is good, but the Nazi era crematoria are out of the question. They need to be redesigned along the lines of so-called clean coal plants. That still leaves the carbon dioxide problem, but perhaps getting rid of that many people would make up for it.

If not, throw in some carbon credits or something. :)
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Rob Lister wrote:First, a note: here's what I see when I read your posts.
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Germ warfare is probably the most efficient of wiping out the vast majority. And we [probably] have the science and technical ability to pull that off. You'll need to do some mopping up though. Even then, you wouldn't get them all. You'd have to get the number down below what can reasonably be expected to repopulate. I have no idea what that number is.
Minimum viable population (MVP) is a lower bound on the population of a species, such that it can survive without some intervention. Below the MVP, the population endures a risk of genetic corruption and extinction due to a lack of genetic diversity.

This link (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1 ... yBndfl_u6M) suggests the minimum viable population for humans is 160 individuals. It is evident that humans are biologically rather persistent bastards as the MVP for other species is typically given a much higher value.
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I don't think you're going to get it down below 160 without destroying the biosphere. Nuclear is still an option. Even though it kills more than just humans, many lower order lifeforms would survive. The biosphere would eventually recover and evolve again.

Let's go with that. When do we start?

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Make ebola airborne.

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Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.

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Bearguin wrote:Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.
Well, without humans, most of the dogs and horses and cows are going to be goners too. Cows for sure. Sadly, cats will probably do better than dogs.

Congratulatory Nod to DrX and the Ebola idea.

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Rob Lister wrote:
Bearguin wrote:Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.
Well, without humans, most of the dogs and horses and cows are going to be goners too. Cows for sure. Sadly, cats will probably do better than dogs.

Congratulatory Nod to DrX and the Ebola idea.
I think they would adapt and survive as species just fine. Maybe not the little dogs I own, but in general dogs would make it. Cows too as long as there are enough bulls around.

Ebola would not kill everyone. While I doubt the 160 mentioned above, I'm sure 1000 left behind would be sufficient to repopulate.

Only robots would be able to do the job right.

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Doctor X wrote:Make ebola airborne.

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Marburg reston already was. Just dumb luck the reston strain only killed monkeys.

Weaponized anthrax is my choice.

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hammegk wrote:
Doctor X wrote:Make ebola airborne.

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Marburg reston already was. Just dumb luck the reston strain only killed monkeys.

Weaponized anthrax is my choice.
Poor choice. Kills mammals generally.

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Anthrax is rather unspecific species-wise. Anthrax has the capability of affecting sheep and cattle. (http://brainimmune.com/disease-environm ... teur-1878/) It is an interspecies strain.
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Bearguin wrote:Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.
This may be slightly unrelated to the OP, but:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... obots.html
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Create easy to grow and tasty varieties of all the staple food, that induce 100% sterility in the next generation who eat the foods.

By the time anyone realizes their kids are sterile, everybody will be sterile. End of mankind.

Drop seeds on isolated areas and islands to make sure everyone dies.

Those who don't eat the foods (because of religious reasons) you use dust from nuclear core material, spread it by air.

repeat as needed.
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Miles wrote:
Bearguin wrote:Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.
This may be slightly unrelated to the OP, but:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... obots.html
I'm going to make that a new thread.
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-FX- wrote:Create easy to grow and tasty varieties of all the staple food, that induce 100% sterility in the next generation who eat the foods.

By the time anyone realizes their kids are sterile, everybody will be sterile. End of mankind.
Ingenious.

I knew the anti-GM folks were on to something.

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Abdul Alhazred wrote:
Miles wrote:
Bearguin wrote:Do you care about what happens to other animals? Are you just trying to kill all humans but leave the dogs and horses and cows alone?

If so, robots. Lots of robots.
This may be slightly unrelated to the OP, but:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... obots.html
I'm going to make that a new thread.
And here I was going to link to your thread as proof I'm right.

Will anyway.

See. Even the US military agrees with me.

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Rob Lister wrote:
-FX- wrote:Create easy to grow and tasty varieties of all the staple food, that induce 100% sterility in the next generation who eat the foods.

By the time anyone realizes their kids are sterile, everybody will be sterile. End of mankind.
Ingenious.

I knew the anti-GM folks were on to something.
The trouble with this, or Ebola, or other non-mechanical means, is that some small percentage of the population will be immune. Nothing special, just random immunity. And they would both survive and there would be enough of them to repopulate.

Why don't you just all accept I am right and it's robots.