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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by DrMatt » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:55 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
DrMatt wrote:You mean fetishware is designed by robots for robots now?
Not yet. :P
Computer music has been an active field since the 1960s. In the 1980s, a professor of mine opined that soon the computer musicians would be autonomous and would direct their efforts to computer audiences. Early model audience members might have trouble getting their hands to meet when they clapped, though.
A different professor in a different part of the country regaled us with terror tales of an early-model robotic arm trying to swing its hand to a particular altitude and azimuth, overshooting the destination, and getting into a limit cycle trying to compensate, until it would shake parts off in random directions, so it was kept caged like a dangerous animal.
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Rob Lister » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:31 pm

DrMatt wrote:In the 1980s, a professor of mine opined that soon the computer musicians would be autonomous and would direct their efforts to computer audiences.
Maybe that actually came to pass. Perhaps the chugging of your hard drive is a deliberate attempt by the drive controller to entertain your graphics card.

The USB controller is busy pirating all of it.

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 pm

DrMatt wrote: ... In the 1980s, a professor of mine opined that soon the computer musicians would be autonomous and would direct their efforts to computer audiences. ...
Deliberately suppressed technology. :o

Somewhere in the basement of the Smithsonian (next to the Ark of the Covenant) ... :notsure:
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:02 pm

Robot watches store shelves so you don't leave empty-handed (engadget)
Few things are more annoying while shopping than finding out that a store hasn't bothered to stock what you want... assuming you know to look for it in the first place. A robot may just come to your rescue, though. Simbe Robotics is launching an autonomous robot, Tally, that scans store shelves and lets workers know when goods are running out or misplaced. Shops no longer have to make a human trudge through the aisles -- they only have to send someone out when supplies are low. Tally can work during normal business hours, and it even has a Roomba-like charging dock so that it can top itself up in mid-shift.

The robot is still in testing with "several" North American retailers, and it could be a while before your favorite shop has an automaton roaming the halls. This could go a long way toward improving your shopping experience if it catches on, however. You'd be much less likely to see empty shelves, and you'd have one less reason to ask staff for a time-consuming inventory check.
You know how this story ends.

At some point humanity goes extinct.

Maybe it's something dramatic and ironic. Maybe a random cosmic accident just at the moment we figure it all out. Or maybe we just die out slowly.

In any case, countless eons later, there will be only thing to indicate that such a species as Man ever existed.

The robots, still dutifully keeping the shelves filled with something or other. :mrgreen:
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:05 pm

Update:

Social, telepresence robots revealed by scientists
Science Daily

Synopsis: In essence, a body for Siri plus some other items of interest.

Sorry, nothing about "anatomically correct" yet, but "she" is said to be real good at facial expressions.
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:18 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:
At some point humanity goes extinct.
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:21 am

Thanks Nyar.

It cheers me up to be a comparative optimist. :mrgreen:
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:23 am

Well, it certainly would appear that what we humans insist on doing will cause Nature to select against us, given just a bit more time. This assumes we don't get our shit together, and we all know we won't.
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:38 am

Maybe whatever the cockroaches evolve into won't be a species of self-destructive assholes
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:08 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:Maybe whatever the cockroaches evolve into won't be a species of self-destructive assholes
Cockroaches are essentially the same as they were 600,000,000 years ago.
Evolve into something? When they are already perfect?

It is ourselves who are "evolving into" something, supposing we dodge extinction.
And yet it would be an insult to call someone a cockroach. Envy for our evolutionary betters.

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by sparks » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:33 pm

Yep. They represent one solution to the survival equation that just keeps on working.
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:08 pm

We will evolve into robots. They may let us live. They may exterminate all of us. They may keep a few as pets. We may be contraband in the Robot society.

While Nyarl will be happiest if he is extinct, it seems.

But what about me, Nyarl? Surely you want me and mine to survive.

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Witness » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:09 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Cockroaches are essentially the same as they were 600,000,000 years ago.
Evolve into something? When they are already perfect?
From Harvard Research Library Guides:
The Carboniferous, around 300 million years ago, is sometimes called the Age of Cockroaches because insects broadly resembling modern roaches flourished during that era. However, the first really modern roachy remains appear later, in the early to mid-Mesozoic, perhaps 200-180 million years ago. Modern cockroaches have changed little from those ancestors.

Insect fossils are relatively rare because they do not preserve as well as vertebrates. We do know that no fossil cockroaches found to date were any larger than the largest roaches today.

Termites may have evolved directly from cockroaches; they are now considered to belong in the same group, Dictyoptera, along with mantids.
http://guides.library.harvard.edu/c.php ... &p=2072128

So we'll have to disguise as androids or wear robotiform armor to survive in the cracks of their society? :shock:

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:23 pm

And having evolved beside them, they became our worst [minor] enemy. There is something about the size and shape and color and general movement of a cockroach that is abhorrent. Instinctively abhorrent. Weird that. Spiders are scary [to some] but not abhorrent. Ants can crawl on our hands and we do not much mind other than to shake them off in a bothersome fashion. Even when ants get in the cupboards, we are not grossed out, just inconvenienced.

Some bugs bother us, some don't. Why is the cockroach so particularly detested?

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Witness » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:29 pm

↑ Seem to remember that you can't eat them (allergies) – that's a crime!

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Rob Lister » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:52 pm

Witness wrote:↑ Seem to remember that you can't eat them (allergies) – that's a crime!
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:37 am

Rob Lister wrote:We will evolve into robots. They may let us live. They may exterminate all of us. They may keep a few as pets. We may be contraband in the Robot society.

While Nyarl will be happiest if he is extinct, it seems.

But what about me, Nyarl? Surely you want me and mine to survive.
Why would I?
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:44 am

Somebody needs some Looie Prima. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by sparks » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:44 am

Is it just me or is there no audio with that music clip?
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Re: Humans Need Not Apply

Post by Nyarlathotep » Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:04 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Somebody needs some Looie Prima. :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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