Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:00 pm

No, but it is up to them to set the stuff up and report any problems. If the setup is sloppy, lots of bad things can happen to even otherwise properly designed gear.
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:10 pm

I've never been able to get rid of ground hum. Just sayin'.

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:21 pm

Is sparks dissing Jimi? :evil:
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:50 pm

Is your ground hum psychological or electrical in nature? :)
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Dissing Jimi? Who? Me?

No no no. I greatly admire and respect anyone who can poison himself to death and still play like that... :)
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:54 pm

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:11 pm

I'm pretty sure it is actually actual. I don't want to get in a fight about it but I've never solved it. If you have suggestions, I'l listen.

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:56 pm

Tell me all about what is driving what and what the intervening cordage/connectors look like please.
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Rob Lister » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 pm

This is really too technical about what I don't care enough about,... but assume

I have an amp that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a guitar that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a cable between them that is not anywhere near cheap.


Huuuummmmm

It's 60 hz, I know from experience.

It fucking drives (drove--I don't care anymore since arthritis) me crazy enough to post here about it. I've tried different outlets, isolation transformers, great big capacitors tuned to 60hz, fuckin' fuck fuck.

Please don't get me started. On your recommendations I'll spend $3000 trying to solve a problem that has no relevance because 1) I can't fucking hear well enough to appreciate it and 2) I can't play anymore because my fingers are fucking big knobs of arthritis. But still, I never solved it.

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by sparks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:07 pm

OK, I thought we had some sort of a ground loop between two pieces of audio gear. In this case, that doesn't fly because the gear originating the signal is a guitar so, no ground loop is possible.

Don't know enough about guitars to be of any help, but it sounds to me like the guitar/cord is acting like a very nice antenna for the 60 cycle shit that permeates everything and in order for it to be a problem, the input impedance on your guitar amp is probably very high indeed thus enabling the antenna like nature of cord/guitar.

Tell me about your guitar: is it just raw pick-ups or does it have an amp built in (requiring battery power most likely)? And the cord: two conductors or three?
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:21 pm

I will invent a guitar that does the ground loop thingy, because nothing is impossible. 8)
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by Anaxagoras » Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:51 am

Rob Lister wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 pm
This is really too technical about what I don't care enough about,... but assume

I have an amp that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a guitar that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a cable between them that is not anywhere near cheap.


Huuuummmmm

It's 60 hz, I know from experience.
Does the hum only start when you plug in the guitar?
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by robinson » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:00 pm

This is a very old problem
You never know what's going to happen, then some shit happens nobody saw coming, then later somebody says they knew it was coming, then some new shit happens nobody saw coming, rinse and repeat

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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by robinson » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:02 pm

I'm going to assume you tried lifting the ground, or tried a humX unit?

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Ebtech/Hum ... minator.gc
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Re: Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

Post by robinson » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:02 pm

Because those would be the first two things to try. (and I know good and damn well that might not do it)

And fwiw I fucking hate that goddamn hum
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