Is Neil Young right about sound quality?

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No, but it is up to them to set the stuff up and report any problems. If the setup is sloppy, lots of bad things can happen to even otherwise properly designed gear.
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I've never been able to get rid of ground hum. Just sayin'.

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Is sparks dissing Jimi? :evil:
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Is your ground hum psychological or electrical in nature? :)
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Dissing Jimi? Who? Me?

No no no. I greatly admire and respect anyone who can poison himself to death and still play like that... :)
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I'm pretty sure it is actually actual. I don't want to get in a fight about it but I've never solved it. If you have suggestions, I'l listen.

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Tell me all about what is driving what and what the intervening cordage/connectors look like please.
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This is really too technical about what I don't care enough about,... but assume

I have an amp that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a guitar that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a cable between them that is not anywhere near cheap.


Huuuummmmm

It's 60 hz, I know from experience.

It fucking drives (drove--I don't care anymore since arthritis) me crazy enough to post here about it. I've tried different outlets, isolation transformers, great big capacitors tuned to 60hz, fuckin' fuck fuck.

Please don't get me started. On your recommendations I'll spend $3000 trying to solve a problem that has no relevance because 1) I can't fucking hear well enough to appreciate it and 2) I can't play anymore because my fingers are fucking big knobs of arthritis. But still, I never solved it.

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OK, I thought we had some sort of a ground loop between two pieces of audio gear. In this case, that doesn't fly because the gear originating the signal is a guitar so, no ground loop is possible.

Don't know enough about guitars to be of any help, but it sounds to me like the guitar/cord is acting like a very nice antenna for the 60 cycle shit that permeates everything and in order for it to be a problem, the input impedance on your guitar amp is probably very high indeed thus enabling the antenna like nature of cord/guitar.

Tell me about your guitar: is it just raw pick-ups or does it have an amp built in (requiring battery power most likely)? And the cord: two conductors or three?
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I will invent a guitar that does the ground loop thingy, because nothing is impossible. 8)
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Rob Lister wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 pm
This is really too technical about what I don't care enough about,... but assume

I have an amp that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a guitar that is not anywhere near cheap.
I have a cable between them that is not anywhere near cheap.


Huuuummmmm

It's 60 hz, I know from experience.
Does the hum only start when you plug in the guitar?
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This is a very old problem
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I'm going to assume you tried lifting the ground, or tried a humX unit?

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Ebtech/Hum ... minator.gc
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Because those would be the first two things to try. (and I know good and damn well that might not do it)

And fwiw I fucking hate that goddamn hum
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