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In Undervaccinated Swaths of Arkansas, COVID-19 Upends Life All Over Again
MOUNTAIN HOME, Ark. — When the boat factory in this leafy Ozark Mountains city offered free coronavirus vaccinations this spring, Susan Johnson, 62, a receptionist there, declined the offer, figuring she was protected as long as she never left her house without a mask.

Linda Marion, 68, a widow with chronic pulmonary disease, worried that a vaccination might actually trigger COVID-19 and kill her. Barbara Billigmeier, 74, an avid golfer who retired here from California, believed she did not need it because “I never get sick.”

This month, all three were patients on 2 West, an overflow ward that is now largely devoted to treating COVID-19 at Baxter Regional Medical Center, the largest hospital in north-central Arkansas. Billigmeier said the scariest part was that “you can’t breathe.” For 10 days, Johnson had relied on supplemental oxygen being fed to her lungs through nasal tubes.

Marion said that at one point, she felt so sick and frightened that she wanted to give up. “It was just terrible,” she said. “I felt like I couldn’t take it.”

Yet despite their ordeals, none of them changed their minds about getting vaccinated. “It’s just too new,” Billigmeier said. “It is like an experiment.”

While much of the nation tiptoes toward normalcy, the coronavirus is again swamping hospitals in places like Mountain Home, a city of fewer than 13,000 people not far from the Missouri border. A principal reason, health officials say, is the emergence of the new, far more contagious delta variant, which now accounts for more than half of new infections in the United States.

The variant has highlighted a new divide in America, between communities with high vaccination rates, where it causes hardly a ripple, and those like Mountain Home that are undervaccinated, where it threatens to upend life all over again. Part of the country is breathing a sigh of relief; part is holding its breath.

While infections rose in more than half the nation’s counties last week, those with low vaccination rates were far more likely to see bigger jumps. Among the 25 counties with the sharpest increases in cases, all but one had vaccinated under 40% of residents, and 16 had vaccinated under 30% , a New York Times analysis found.

In Baxter County, where the hospital is, fewer than one-third of residents are fully vaccinated — below both the state and the national averages. Even fewer people are protected in surrounding counties that the hospital serves.

“It’s absolutely flooded,” said Dr. Rebecca Martin, a pulmonologist, as she made the rounds of 2 West one morning last week.

In the first half of June, the hospital averaged only one or two COVID-19 patients a day. On Thursday, 22 of the unit’s 32 beds were filled with coronavirus patients. Five more were in intensive care. In a single week, the number of COVID-19 patients had jumped by one-third.

Overall, Arkansas ranks near the bottom of states in the share of population that is vaccinated. Only 44% of residents have received at least one shot.
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At some point the population is going to go after the super wealthy

Or whomever they can get to

It’s already happened in South Africa
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Of course the wealthy have armed security, they make damn sure that “no guns” nonsense does not apply to them.

Which is also exactly how violent street gangs feel about guns
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Let them eat each other.

On CNN and Faux News. :)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ina-human/
A man in China has died after contracting a rare infectious disease from primates, known as the Monkey B virus, Chinese health officials revealed in a report Saturday. The victim, a 53-year-old veterinarian based in Beijing, was the first documented human case of the virus in China.
From 2020:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/ ... s-florida/

People can’t agree on what to do about Florida’s herpes-infected monkeys
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In other news, the Surgeon General's advisory on misinformation:

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files ... visory.pdf
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I got tired of hearing this shit about the Delta variant ... so I did some reading
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Just take your Vitamin C and Vitamin D.
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NEW DELHI: After causing widespread mayhem in India for almost two months, the Delta variant of Covid-19 is now spreading rapidly in several other countries around the world.

The highly transmissible variant, first identified in India in late-2020, is behind the fresh surge being reported in countries like the UK, Israel, Russia and Australia.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 844003.cms
A major concern right now is Delta, a highly contagious SARS-CoV-2 virus strain, which was first identified in India in December. It then swept rapidly through that country and Great Britain as well. The first Delta case in the United States was diagnosed in March and it is now the dominant strain in the U.S.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-thi ... iant-covid

So the Delta variant starts in India, December 2020

But in January 2020 it was already being studied

SARS-CoV-2 Variant Associated with Milder COVID-19
Whether SARS-CoV-2 variants affect COVID-19 severity is a topic of intense interest. Early in the pandemic, a SARS-CoV-2 variant with a 382-nucleotide deletion in open reading frame (ORF)-8 (which has an unknown function) emerged in China and was subsequently detected in cases in Singapore and Taiwan. Now, investigators have compared clinical outcomes in people infected with wild-type virus or the delta 382-variant.

Between January and March 2020, 131 patients hospitalized in Singapore were enrolled into the study; 70% had wild-type virus, 22% had delta 382-variant virus, and 8% had mixed infection. Compared with the group infected with wild-type virus, those infected with delta 382-variant alone were younger (median age, 37 vs. 47 years), had a longer duration of symptoms (6 vs. 4 days), and had lower virus levels on initial nasopharyngeal polymerase chain reaction. After adjustment for age and comorbidities, patients infected with delta 382-variant had a lower likelihood of developing hypoxia than those infected with wild-type virus (odds ratio, 0.07). People with the delta 382-variant had lower plasma levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines and higher concentrations of interferon-gamma than those with wild-type virus.
https://www.jwatch.org/na52292/2020/08/ ... r-covid-19

Looking at the dubious reporting, there is something fucked up going on
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robinson wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:52 am This artificial panic is the media trying to use a situation to fuck over the world, to ensure Trump is blamed
Now that Biden is "president", the media no longer blames the "president" for anything
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Pyrrho wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:30 pm In other news, the Surgeon General's advisory on misinformation:

https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files ... visory.pdf
One trusts he severely reprimanded the WHO, the CDC, and himself?
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https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/disc ... a-variant/
"Delta-plus just means that there's been an additional mutation in the delta variant," says Dr. Gregory Poland, an infectious diseases physician and researcher at Mayo Clinic. "We have not really seen that take off yet. And that's probably because it's being outcompeted by the delta variant. If you look at the original virus and you say there was a certain amount of infectivity associated with that, the U.K., or alpha variant, was about 50% more infectious than the original virus. The delta virus is 50% to 60% more infectious than the alpha variant."
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These boyos never lived through polio or smallpox, just a guess.
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Next month, the delta plus plus super variant arrives
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Better take some Vitamin E.
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Says the NPC
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Also a healthy helping of bran and prune juice. Guy I knew used to take that combination to "purge himself." Never got that COVID.

Died of a stroke and decomposed into his apartment carpet in the summertime and nobody noticed a damned thing, but that could happen to anybody.
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Pyrrho wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:42 am Also a healthy helping of bran and prune juice. Guy I knew used to take that combination to "purge himself." Never got that COVID.

Died of a stroke and decomposed into his apartment carpet in the summertime and nobody noticed a damned thing, but that could happen to anybody.
Indeed. I expect it will happen with me.
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Not if you have loved ones


They never ever fucking leave you alone



Especially if you have money
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And if you have no money and no loved ones, and you are old


What do you care if you die and leave this world of endless torment and pain …
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BBC article about whether or not there was "gain of function" research re: coronavirus. Different experts may opine differently

https://www.bbc.com/news/57932699
A more general point is that any evaluation of research and the risks involved can be subjective.

Rebecca Moritz of Colorado State University told the BBC: "There is not always consensus [on gain-of-function research] even amongst experts, and institutions interpret and apply policy differently."
I have no idea. Out of my depth and the waters are so murky that one could easily mistake a floating turd for a Baby Ruth bar.
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See the thread





For those don’t read


The workers dorms for the lab show up as the main center of infection in Wuhan
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Link: https://twitter.com/sbattrawden/status/1418984363304394762

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“Show us the evidence!”
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robinson wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:10 am

“There is NO evidence!”
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I would agree the woke mobs going after the medical staff is insane

But them most of what the insane mobs do is insane
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Twitter thread worth the read:
Link: https://twitter.com/jamesheathers/status/1419286491176521728

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The authorities are liars
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And their deceptions and lies kill people

In this case, millions of them
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So, better not get vaccinated? It wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been vaccinated?

Did anyone claim that the vaccine is 100% effective?

The other question is, so he tested positive, but did he get sick? I keep hearing about people testing positive after getting vaccinated, but it is rarely mentioned whether they actually had any symptoms. The vaccine can still work if it keeps you out of the hospital even if you test positive. (See the chart Pyrrho posted at the top of this page).
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Dr. Fleming, in robinson's post above, has a patented nuclear imaging calibration method for which he makes various claims with regard to medical diagnoses, now including SARS-Cov-2 diagnoses, none of which I am qualified to evaluate.

https://www.flemingmethod.com/

On his page, he cites comments by a Wuhan virus researcher. It is important to understand the definition of the word "mediate", but of course that doesn't rule out the lab genesis hypothesis. It is also important to understand that SARS viruses already exist in nature, notably in bats, and that viruses have crossed from species to species before, which does not rule out the Wuhan wild game market hypothesis.
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robinson wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:31 am
That is only because they were protesting the right things (tm). Otherwise, it would have been horrible.
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Pyrrho wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:28 am BBC article about whether or not there was "gain of function" research re: coronavirus. Different experts may opine differently

I have no idea. Out of my depth and the waters are so murky that one could easily mistake a floating turd for a Baby Ruth bar.
I really recommend that if you want to get info on this subject from the horse's mouth, check out the Origins of Covid thread at ISF. Ignore everyone but a poster called Capsid. He is a known top-level researcher in virology and can be relied upon to be giving completely independent analysis. He doesn't have any responsibility to anything other than evidence.
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